Not Giving up the Ship - Reapps for 2028!

[hopefulhockeymom]

It looks like there are at least several candidates who have already opened up re-applications for Class of 2028, so I wanted to start a thread here to create a gathering spot for candidates and families!

DD received her TWE in The Purge of April 12, but has already retaken the ACT on 4/15 (we scheduled it, just in case, knowing it was an area with room for improvement) and she completed her preliminary app today!

Here we go again!!

 

[navy/airforce-hopeful man]

It looks like there are at least several candidates who have already opened up re-applications for Class of 2028, so I wanted to start a thread here to create a gathering spot for candidates and families!

DD received her TWE in The Purge of April 12, but has already retaken the ACT on 4/15 (we scheduled it, just in case, knowing it was an area with room for improvement) and she completed her preliminary app today!

Here we go again!!

Same boat here! I got caught in the 4-12 TWE wave like your DD, took the ACT on Saturday (******* F11 math was hard) and I'm taking the SAT again in May. Going to be doing everything in my power to get in next year. Hope you and your DD the best!

 

[justdoit19]

It will be interesting to see who actually reapplies. All of my candidates have told me thus far, if they weren’t offered an appointment, they would reapply. No one has to date! Granted, im a newer BGO so haven’t had a TON of candidates, but still.

People seem to have a tendency to grow where they are planted. And thats good.

Enjoy your year, and come back and let us know if you reapply!! We will be rooting for you all over again!

 

[Capt MJ]

For those of you headed to NROTC, please be all in for that path and give 100% to being a good midshipman. Academic excellence, squared away military bearing, always on time if not early, always prepared, good military aptitude clearly seen, exceed and excel in the PRT and group PT, volunteer for not-fun stuff - no bonehead conduct incidents.

Earn a good professional reputation from the get-go. Do this not only because it is the right thing to do, but presumably you want to earn the PNS’ nod for an ROTC nom, should you choose to re-apply to USNA.

Do not for one minute, through words or body language, let any whiff of “I’m only hanging out here until I get into USNA” emanate. Be present and committed to the path you are on. When the time is right, after you’ve settled in and gotten a good rep, you let your chain of command know, diplomatically and respectfully, you are happy to be part of the Fighting Sea Ducks at the U, but you applied to USNA last cycle, and you still have the desire to try for that immersion path to a commission, but if you are unsuccessful, you are happy to be on a path to a commission right where you are.

I am going to page @GWU PNS , who posts openly here as the commander of the large GWU unit, for his insight into what impresses him with first years, best practices for informing and gaining chain of command support for a USNA re-application and ROTC nom request.

Great, middle of the road and poor officers come out of NROTC, as they do from USNA and OCS. No one in the Fleet or Corps cares where you got your commission, especially your sailors or Marines. They want to know if you will lead them well, are competent in your job, will care about their welfare, are trustworthy - and worthy of their respect. THAT is your true goal, to be a servant leader of impeccable integrity and professional excellence.

For all re-applicants:
USNA RE-APPLICATION GUIDANCE

Previous Candidates & College Candidates

Previous Candidates and College Candidates page for Admissions at USNA.edu. Updated Sat Apr 20 05:15:40 EDT 2024.

www.usna.edu

 

[hopefulhockeymom]

Same boat here! I got caught in the 4-12 TWE wave like your DD, took the ACT on Saturday (******* F11 math was hard) and I'm taking the SAT again in May. Going to be doing everything in my power to get in next year. Hope you and your DD the best!

DD said the same thing about the math!! She was pleased that the science felt very easy this time. Since USNA allows for super scoring, she is hoping that, if nothing else, her science sub test score will get a boost from this test!

 

[hopefulhockeymom]

For those of you headed to NROTC, please be all in for that path and give 100% to being a good midshipman. Academic excellence, squared away military bearing, always on time if not early, always prepared, good military aptitude clearly seen, exceed and excel in the PRT and group PT, volunteer for not-fun stuff - no bonehead conduct incidents.

Earn a good professional reputation from the get-go. Do this not only because it is the right thing to do, but presumably you want to earn the PNS’ nod for an ROTC nom, should you choose to re-apply to USNA.

Do not for one minute, through words or body language, let any whiff of “I’m only hanging out here until I get into USNA” emanate. Be present and committed to the path you are on. When the time is right, after you’ve settled in and gotten a good rep, you let your chain of command know, diplomatically and respectfully, you are happy to be part of the Fighting Sea Ducks at the U, but you applied to USNA last cycle, and you still have the desire to try for that immersion path to a commission, but if you are unsuccessful, you are happy to be on a path to a commission right where you are.

I am going to page @GWU PNS , who posts openly here as the commander of the large GWU unit, for his insight into what impresses him with first years, best practices for informing and gaining chain of command support for a USNA re-application and ROTC nom request.

Great, middle of the road and poor officers come out of NROTC, as they do from USNA and OCS. No one in the Fleet or Corps cares where you got your commission, especially your sailors or Marines. They want to know if you will lead them well, are competent in your job, will care about their welfare, are trustworthy - and worthy of their respect. THAT is your true goal, to be a servant leader of impeccable integrity and professional excellence.

For all re-applicants:
USNA RE-APPLICATION GUIDANCE

Previous Candidates & College Candidates

Previous Candidates and College Candidates page for Admissions at USNA.edu. Updated Sat Apr 20 05:15:40 EDT 2024.

www.usna.edu

Thanks for this feedback and advice!!

 

[dnguyen0619]

Also reapplying, let's get our heads back in the game!

 

[Apollo 8]

Time to finish the current semester strong and get ready for a new race.

Let's go 2028!! (that sounds like a very futuristic number )

 

[Old Navy BGO]

Public Service Announcement -- there is no need to reapply immediately. Admissions isn't going to look at the date of reapplication date and say WOW..that Candidate really wants USNA , so let them in next year. First do a close self evaluation -- consider whether you are truly competitive and want to put yourself through this roller coaster again. Second, wait until the dust settles in Annapolis, reach out to your Admissions Counselor and see if they will give you some tips to improve your application. Third, don't simply recycle your application/essays etc. from last year. I know the natural inclination is to try to get it all done quickly, but I tell my reapplicants to hold off on the essays until they have a couple months of college under their belt so they have something new to write and talk to your BGO about. As a practical matter, USNA is not even going to look at the reapplicant application until the first semester grades are in, so there is no rush. ( I would however, suggest that you tell your BGO about this strategy so you don't get dinged on Motivation and Interest when you ask for an interview in January).

 

[USMC Crayons]

For those of you headed to NROTC, please be all in for that path and give 100% to being a good midshipman. Academic excellence, squared away military bearing, always on time if not early, always prepared, good military aptitude clearly seen, exceed and excel in the PRT and group PT, volunteer for not-fun stuff - no bonehead conduct incidents.

Earn a good professional reputation from the get-go. Do this not only because it is the right thing to do, but presumably you want to earn the PNS’ nod for an ROTC nom, should you choose to re-apply to USNA.

Do not for one minute, through words or body language, let any whiff of “I’m only hanging out here until I get into USNA” emanate. Be present and committed to the path you are on. When the time is right, after you’ve settled in and gotten a good rep, you let your chain of command know, diplomatically and respectfully, you are happy to be part of the Fighting Sea Ducks at the U, but you applied to USNA last cycle, and you still have the desire to try for that immersion path to a commission, but if you are unsuccessful, you are happy to be on a path to a commission right where you are.

I am going to page @GWU PNS , who posts openly here as the commander of the large GWU unit, for his insight into what impresses him with first years, best practices for informing and gaining chain of command support for a USNA re-application and ROTC nom request.

Great, middle of the road and poor officers come out of NROTC, as they do from USNA and OCS. No one in the Fleet or Corps cares where you got your commission, especially your sailors or Marines. They want to know if you will lead them well, are competent in your job, will care about their welfare, are trustworthy - and worthy of their respect. THAT is your true goal, to be a servant leader of impeccable integrity and professional excellence.

For all re-applicants:
USNA RE-APPLICATION GUIDANCE

Previous Candidates & College Candidates

Previous Candidates and College Candidates page for Admissions at USNA.edu. Updated Sat Apr 20 05:15:40 EDT 2024.

www.usna.edu

Is it true that in order to receive one of the ROTC nominations you have to be on scholarship? I believe that was mentioned somewhere...don't know if I misunderstood or not.

 

[anom]

It will be interesting to see who actually reapplies. All of my candidates have told me thus far, if they weren’t offered an appointment, they would reapply. No one has to date! Granted, im a newer BGO so haven’t had a TON of candidates, but still.

People seem to have a tendency to grow where they are planted. And thats good.

Enjoy your year, and come back and let us know if you reapply!! We will be rooting for you all over again!

I have found this so interesting, especially from NROTC. My BGO said I was one of if not the first person to reapply.

 

[anom]

Is it true that in order to receive one of the ROTC nominations you have to be on scholarship? I believe that was mentioned somewhere...don't know if I misunderstood or not.

I personally have not heard about that. Anyone the CO recommends should receive one.

 

[IronmanDaremo]

Is it true that in order to receive one of the ROTC nominations you have to be on scholarship? I believe that was mentioned somewhere...don't know if I misunderstood or not.

No, you do not.

My son was a college programmer (who was also going for the national scholarship) when he requested a letter from his PNS (the NROTC CO). He won the scholarship in January of last year, and his PNS gave him a letter of recommendation/nom at the same time. He accepted the scholarship and was working toward all the requirements for that when he found out he was being appointed off the waitlist. Since he was a college programmer and would be entering his sophomore year when the scholarship started, he was going to go to both NSI and CORTRAMID. His summer would have been packed either way!

As soon as he pushed the Accept button to the Academy, he informed his command that he would not be taking the scholarship anymore.

 

[IronmanDaremo]

As an FYI, college students are no longer allowed to apply for the 4-year national scholarship for NROTC. They changed that this cycle. For those that go in as college programmers (walk-ons to the NROTC programs), they are eligible for the 3 or 2 year side-load scholarships. These are ones that are only eligible to current college students. There are less applicants for them, and the service requirements vary with how long you get the scholarship. They are also at the needs of the Navy, so may vary in quantities year over year.

Lots of paths to commission!!

 

[USMC Crayons]

As an FYI, college students are no longer allowed to apply for the 4-year national scholarship for NROTC. They changed that this cycle. For those that go in as college programmers (walk-ons to the NROTC programs), they are eligible for the 3 or 2 year side-load scholarships. These are ones that are only eligible to current college students. There are less applicants for them, and the service requirements vary with how long you get the scholarship. They are also at the needs of the Navy, so may vary in quantities year over year.

Lots of paths to commission!!

Thanks. DS is going to be applying for the Marine Option 4 year along with USNA. Just trying to get all of his options up on the brainstorming board in case he has to go it alone for the 1st year of college.

 

[lexiealex007]

If you are taking the same classes USNA Plebes are taking but at your university and get good grades, is it still recommended that you redo ACT or SAT.

 

[jaglvr]

Is it true that in order to receive one of the ROTC nominations you have to be on scholarship? I believe that was mentioned somewhere...don't know if I misunderstood or not.

No not true. Just participate, stand out (in a good way), and show you want to be there.

 

[Usnavy2019]

Some tips coming from a reapplicant:

Start knocking out the easy wins early. DoDMERB is good for two years so if you are qualified, you will be good for the following cycle barring any health changes. One of the easiest wins (but one of the easiest to put off) is the CFA. I did mine over the summer before leaving for my Plan B. You still should be in decent shape from training from it and you should still be in touch with people (like a BGO or a coach) that can administer it. Update your resume with any honors you get in the last bit of senior year. The weather is nicer, sickness usually isn't an issue, and it gives you a lot of schedule flexibility.

Have a plan of attack for Plan B. There is always some self-discovery in college and that is part of the experience. However, it takes a lot of discipline to stick to a plan. Find out what activities Plan B offers like intramurals or club sports. See what classes are available to take as a Freshman that are analogous to Plebe Year. Be engaged with your professors. They might have to (can't remember if it was required) write you an LOR. Very hard to do when you are in a 200 person calculus lecture. However, professors will know the students that go to office hours, stay after class, sit in the front few rows religiously, etc. Many also are happy to sit down with you and help you create a plan of success. However, saying "I need an A so I can look good for USNA" is not the best way to start that interaction. So, wordsmith it a bit.

If you are doing NROTC or some other ROTC program, you have the military box checked. Put effort into it. People notice those who just go through the motions and those who are there giving it their all. Invest in your development as a future officer. If you end up going to USNA, you will have a leg up on your peers. If you are not slated to participate in a military program, see if you can take one of the military science classes and/or do PT and other stuff with the unit. If you reapply, you will have to let your command know eventually. Most will be supportive. Just don't drop a bomb on them at the last minute. In most of my command triad experiences, if you had something that you pursuing that would benefit you and the Navy, they would bend over backwards to help even though they might not directly benefit. My OIC could not have been more supportive of my reapplication. You can also go to your local recruiting office and work out with the DEP poolies. Most recruiters will likely be fine with it if you explain yourself.

Don't enlist in the Reserves or the (Air) National Guard to build resume points. Enlisting is a big commitment and you are still enlisted if you don't get in the second time around. You might have to sacrifice some schooling for drills, deployments, etc. Enlist if you want to enlist, but don't do it for USNA.

Take the tests again. It sucks to be a high school graduate taking them again, but it is only one Saturday morning. If you get better scores, then great! If you don't, it won't make or break you. College grades matter a lot, but that does not mean disregard the tests.

Pick good friends. Pick friends who are good influences. The friends that are going to a party on a Tuesday, getting drunk/high, and barely going to class is not the crowd for you. Have fun, but be smart about it. It only takes being in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people, doing one wrong thing once to potentially squander your reapplication.

Lastly, you made it decently far in the process with your high school record. However, focus on how you have grown since getting a TWE and how your desire to USNA has grown/remained stable through the process. Admissions and the nom sources want to know about how college you is different from high school year. Usually, just rattling off college accomplishments will not cut it. They are looking for qualitative differences too. Talk about working though the adversity of a turndown, of not realizing a dream immediately, etc. Talk about how the turndown lit a fire of "I'm going to prove you wrong" or something to the like.

 

[Rach3]

Some tips coming from a reapplicant:

Start knocking out the easy wins early. DoDMERB is good for two years so if you are qualified, you will be good for the following cycle barring any health changes. One of the easiest wins (but one of the easiest to put off) is the CFA. I did mine over the summer before leaving for my Plan B. You still should be in decent shape from training from it and you should still be in touch with people (like a BGO or a coach) that can administer it. Update your resume with any honors you get in the last bit of senior year. The weather is nicer, sickness usually isn't an issue, and it gives you a lot of schedule flexibility.

Have a plan of attack for Plan B. There is always some self-discovery in college and that is part of the experience. However, it takes a lot of discipline to stick to a plan. Find out what activities Plan B offers like intramurals or club sports. See what classes are available to take as a Freshman that are analogous to Plebe Year. Be engaged with your professors. They might have to (can't remember if it was required) write you an LOR. Very hard to do when you are in a 200 person calculus lecture. However, professors will know the students that go to office hours, stay after class, sit in the front few rows religiously, etc. Many also are happy to sit down with you and help you create a plan of success. However, saying "I need an A so I can look good for USNA" is not the best way to start that interaction. So, wordsmith it a bit.

If you are doing NROTC or some other ROTC program, you have the military box checked. Put effort into it. People notice those who just go through the motions and those who are there giving it their all. Invest in your development as a future officer. If you end up going to USNA, you will have a leg up on your peers. If you are not slated to participate in a military program, see if you can take one of the military science classes and/or do PT and other stuff with the unit. If you reapply, you will have to let your command know eventually. Most will be supportive. Just don't drop a bomb on them at the last minute. In most of my command triad experiences, if you had something that you pursuing that would benefit you and the Navy, they would bend over backwards to help even though they might not directly benefit. My OIC could not have been more supportive of my reapplication. You can also go to your local recruiting office and work out with the DEP poolies. Most recruiters will likely be fine with it if you explain yourself.

Don't enlist in the Reserves or the (Air) National Guard to build resume points. Enlisting is a big commitment and you are still enlisted if you don't get in the second time around. You might have to sacrifice some schooling for drills, deployments, etc. Enlist if you want to enlist, but don't do it for USNA.

Take the tests again. It sucks to be a high school graduate taking them again, but it is only one Saturday morning. If you get better scores, then great! If you don't, it won't make or break you. College grades matter a lot, but that does not mean disregard the tests.

Pick good friends. Pick friends who are good influences. The friends that are going to a party on a Tuesday, getting drunk/high, and barely going to class is not the crowd for you. Have fun, but be smart about it. It only takes being in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people, doing one wrong thing once to potentially squander your reapplication.

Lastly, you made it decently far in the process with your high school record. However, focus on how you have grown since getting a TWE and how your desire to USNA has grown/remained stable through the process. Admissions and the nom sources want to know about how college you is different from high school year. Usually, just rattling off college accomplishments will not cut it. They are looking for qualitative differences too. Talk about working though the adversity of a turndown, of not realizing a dream immediately, etc. Talk about how the turndown lit a fire of "I'm going to prove you wrong" or something to the like.

GREAT ADVICE: "Pick good friends. Pick friends who are good influences. The friends that are going to a party on a Tuesday, getting drunk/high, and barely going to class is not the crowd for you. Have fun, but be smart about it. It only takes being in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people, doing one wrong thing once to potentially squander your reapplication."

 

[OldRetSWO]

I have found this so interesting, especially from NROTC. My BGO said I was one of if not the first person to reapply.

I've personally interviewed many college reapplicants - some as their BGO and others (many) for the MOC and Senators.
FYI, it is generally the practice to assign you to a different BGO for the reapplication. I usually get several of these from
across the state as a "gift" from my AC.