NROTC-MO -- No National Scholarships for College Programmers

CatDog99

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DS is first year at SMC and a college programmer with NROTC-Marine Option (MO). He talked to Marine-Officer Selection Officer (OSO) today after submitting his online application for National Scholarship. Surprise -- OSO told DS that effective this year the USMC is offering no National Scholarships to college program students. According to OSO -- only the 2 and 3 year side-load scholarships are available to NROTC-MO College Program midshipman this year. DS is doing well at his SMC so I think he should be in the hunt for a side load -- although it is well known among this group that NROTC-MO scholarships are rare gems. Hoping DS follows the path of @kinnem son -- his story is inspiring for Marine aspirants.
 
Thank you for the informative and really nice note above. Just to clarify, Does this mean for freshmen college programmers in the class of 2023 (now at college, participating but not on scholarship), the update is now they will not be considered for 4 year national scholarships that might previously have covered a part (half or maybe even retroactively all) of the student's freshman year costs - they are totally not going to get those costs covered? Instead, they may still compete for 2 and 3 year sideload scholarships which would potentially cover costs for the students junior/ senior year (2 year) or Sophomore/ Junior/ Senior (3 Year) year for tuition, fees, books, stipend? I'm just looking to better understand and clarify so that it may also help others.
 

ProudDad17

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@Herman_Snerd, that is what I took from the post, that they would not be considered as re-applicants for the 4 year national scholarships. In reality these became 3 year scholarships anyway, because the Navy does not pay retroactively and I believe the application could not be submitted until the end of the first semester of college. As the OP stated, freshman can still apply for the 3 year side load and sophomores can apply for the 2 year side load and Advanced Standing. Hopefully the OP will confirm this was the information received or not. I am curious if there was any reasoning given for this change.
 

kinnem

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I like how ProudDad17 reads it. It basically means there is just a different application process than what was used last year for current freshman. Stated another way they are back to their old process of not using the National High School Scholarship program for freshman anymore.

I would also like to point out we only have one source for this. Presumably if it's accurate then freshman everywhere will be notified.
 

CatDog99

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Based on what DS told me, @ProudDad17 sums up the changes. DS learned this from the OSO -- not from the NROTC unit staff. As with all single source reports, it would be nice to have corroboration if anyone else hears the same news from another source.

My thoughts -- Evaluating college programmers at the unit level (i.e., the Side Load scholarship process), after a period of direct observation and college grades, is better than using the National Scholarship process that is used to evaluate High School students (with no experience in NROTC-MO).
 

Impulsive

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Our DS is in the same situation. If you go to the NROTC website and check "Scholarships" you will see that any student with 30 college credits or greater is not eligible for the "National Scholarship". But they are eligible for the three and two year "side load" scholarships because they are in NROTC and College so they need PMS recommendations, and college transcripts. From everything we have heard, if you are a Tier I applicant with at least a 2.5 GPA and do well in NROTC as a Programmer, the scholarships are pretty normal, and if your Unit thinks you will make a good officer and complete the program then the scholarship (either 2 or 3 yr) is usually granted because you have already shown the ability to do college academics and ROTC work.

The letter and documents requesting this scholarship I think needs to be in by May 31st as the Board meets in July of 2020 for next fall semester. As said above I do not believe any of the ROTC programs pay in arrears.
 
this aligns with the specific direction given my DS, though it was not explicitly stated as a national direction.

And makes a bunch of sense, applying nationally in fall as frosh doesn't really allow enough time for there to be meaningful differentiation between Senior year HS app and an app 10 months later.

Couple that with the lack of retroactivity and this seems like a good decision.
 

ProudDad17

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I think the process is different for Marine option and Navy option Mids. I note that for clarity. Good luck to all!
Agreed. Navy and Marine option have different application processes. Your post was specific to Marine option. The tiers @Impulsive refers to are only for Navy option. The Marines don't care what your major is. Although I do wonder if this will apply to Navy options as well. As @kinnem noted, the change to allow college freshmen to apply for the 4 year national scholarship was only made a few years ago, perhaps they are walking that change back. It never made a lot of sense to me to allow this in the first place, when there is a 3 year side-load scholarship specifically for them.
 
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