NROTC-MO PFT

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  1. Daylen86

    Daylen86 Member

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    Already completed online application as well as the officer interview for NROTC-MO scholarship but I’m just looking to see if anyone knows the general PFT score range for the four year recipients.

    Took the PFT four times, improving each time, and on my last one scored a 246. Breakdown: 14 pull-ups, 98 sit-ups, 20:46 three mile.

    How competitive is this score?

    I joined cross country senior year just to improve my run as well as worked out four times a week, focusing on pullups and other pulling variations as well as abs.

    I know physical fitness is one of the highest priorities in the marine corps and I am focused on just that.
     
  2. tman9285

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    Hey, I believe I'm competing against you but I guess I'll help you out with this:
    Physical fitness is NOT the highest priority of the Corps. Focus on the write up and how you display your leadership. That is what matters. But yeah, still gotta be fit too.
    Best of luck!
     
  3. USMCGrunt

    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

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    @tman9285: your post provides nothing that helps the OP and the opening comment is shallow.

    OP: if you are done and everything is submitted then focus on your other options and your senior year. Getting in better shape is always a good idea and will help no matter what comes next.

    A 246 is good not great. I would guess the average was higher BUT it’s the entire package that carries the day.

    FWIW: focus on pull ups. You can gain a ton of points with each additional rep vs any run improvement.
     
  4. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    246 is solid but I would target a 275 or above. Bring that run time down a little and get those pull ups higher. Generally pull ups are the easiest way to increase your score as one more will increase your score by a few points while the run usually takes 30 seconds to increase by a few points. Physical fitness is very important in the USMC. Being a leader in the Corps means setting the example. So physical fitness is important as a leader.
     
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  5. Devil Doc

    Devil Doc Teufel Doc

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    Marine load bearing units are required to be capable of humping 70 pounds 20 miles in under 8 hours. My son hasn't had much luck with his XOs and his current one has dropped from two conditioning hikes. The last hump was short with a light load on a cool SoCal morning. I asked if he was an older prior enlisted.

    "Nope, he's a recent blankety blank grad."

    While physical fitness may not be the HIGHEST priority in the Corps, I know of a young 1stLt who now has physical fitness as HIS highest priority. An officer dropping from anything in front of subordinates is embarrassing and degrades trust and confidence.
     
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  6. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    70 lbs, 20 miles in 8 hours isn’t that difficult. Heck I was in an air wing unit and we could do that. We did it twice that I can remember. TBS you do that pace for every hike and at least 70lbs. Was never an issue. Rarely would a Lt fall out from that. The hikes never bothered me as we usually did them in the dark, you walked next to your buddy, chatted about random stuff for hours (we actually brought trivia cards believe it or not) and made the best of it. Now a TBS hike is different then the fleet when you are leading, checking on your Marines, managing things. You never want to fall out of anything. I sucked at running so I really had to focus on that as a Marine and keep on top of that. Well... we had an XO who decided to take the Battalion on a 3 mile run at a 6 minute mile pace... we had about 30 people finish it... last one he ever led.
     
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    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

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    @Devil Doc: Back in the day, the standard for an entire Infantry Battalion carrying full gear was 25 miles in 8 hours. We would have to pass this event as part of an assessment for deployment. I am sure you must have done those. Going from memory, the expectation was hump for 50 minutes/ 10 minute breaks for chow, rest, sock change, first aid or whatever.

    We did lots of Company-level conditioning hikes over steep terrain prior to the event and felt the assessment test was pretty easy. The Admin and HQ folks didn't fair as well.
     
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  8. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    They train to the 50/10 still and it’s what is taught at TBS. Terrain, heat and weight can impact that as we all know. My least favorite hikes were the ones where we got dropped off 20 miles from TBS then walked back. My worst hike I ever did was on Vieques Island when I was a Mid on summer training. I was attached to the ship but the CO knew I wanted to be a Marine so he let me come to the field with them. It was under one condition... I had to be his RTO so he knew where I was the whole time (I was a female with grunts and this was many years ago). I volunteered to the do the hike and carry the radio. I had never done a hike before... they were all easier after that one.
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    DS's favorite TBS hike was a bus ride to the Chancellorsville area where they hiked the route Stonewall Jackson took to flank Hooker's army... but then he was a history major so....
     
  10. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    We did that too... all but one platoon... mine. We had to stay behind for something odd, can’t remember why.
     
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  11. tman9285

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    Thanks for the knife-hand, will take that into consoderation for future posts.
     
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  12. rholt

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    I was told by a reliable source that a score of 264 is about average for those who are actually awarded a NROTC-MO scholarship. Feel free to use that as a data point.
     
  13. Future Jarhead

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    Could you site that source? From the various threads prior, it seems that number could be a bit off
     
  14. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Super Moderator 5-Year Member

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s around there for the average. Doesn’t sound out of the ordinary to me. Prior to heading off to OCS they will want to see a 275+. Officers are expected to always have a solid first class. At one point TBS wouldn’t let a student start class unless they had a first class PFT, not sure if they still do that.
     
  15. Cadad2022

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    My 2022 DD earned a 4 year MO scholarship and scored a 280. The 5 other in her district scored between 245 and 300. I agree with others and work on the pull ups. Maxing our the pull ups is a great way to significantly boost your score.
    My DD is well into her first semester of her 4th class year. She will tell you that Marine Options take their fitness seriously. While she was fit going into the year, she quickly found out that she has some work to do. The official PFT was the easy part.
     
  16. rholt

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    The Exec Officer at my son's Recruiting Station.

    My son has had to make a trade-off. Of course he would love to get a better score. But, he also has to study all the time for the 5 AP classes he is currently taking. His training regime has taken a hit and as a result he is not confident that if he took the test again today he could even match the 264 he got last month.
     
  17. USMCGrunt

    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

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    @rholt : Sounds like your DS has a package suitable for submission for the first board (approx. November) and I assume the OSO or XO has submitted it. I have heard of the possibility of PFT retakes and package updates if he rolls over to the 2nd board - depends upon his OSO. As you can imagine, the package is a lot more than a PFT. We have seen applicants who have earned a scholarship with lower scores and also people with higher scores who don't get the scholarship. Hitting the average is fine provided his application has strong essays, interviews, and recommendations relative to his regional competition during the selection boards. Focusing on his academics makes sense but I suggest he use his training regime to blow off some steam. He will benefit from that approach no matter what happens with the scholarship process.
     
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