NROTC options for freshmen?

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If a student will be a freshman next year and missed all the scholarship deadlines - what are their options regarding joining NROTC?
 
Call up the Freshman advisor/recruiting officer and tell them you'd like to join as a College Programmer. You'll have a little paperwork to fill out, but as long as the unit has room you'll participate in everything the Scholarship Mids do and you'll still be on a commissioning track. You'll still have the opportunity to compete for a scholarship. You can apply once more for the national 4-year, plus once you're at the unit, you can compete for what are called Sideload scholarships. These scholarships are only open to current Program mids.
 
ekb1398 said:
Call up the Freshman advisor/recruiting officer and tell them you'd like to join as a College Programmer. You'll have a little paperwork to fill out, but as long as the unit has room you'll participate in everything the Scholarship Mids do and you'll still be on a commissioning track. You'll still have the opportunity to compete for a scholarship. You can apply once more for the national 4-year, plus once you're at the unit, you can compete for what are called Sideload scholarships. These scholarships are only open to current Program mids.
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Thanks for the info. At what point are you obligated to a service commitment?
 
ekb1398 is essentially correct. You do get to participate in all the activities that a scholarship midshipman does, with the exception of summer training. You don't get to do summer training until you've won a scholarship or have achieved Advanced Standing (after your sophomore year).

You are obligated to serve once you have received a scholarship and contract, unless you enter with a scholarship as a freshman, in which case you get a year to change your mind.

I encourage you to contact the unit before the middle of May. Once the college semester is over then the officers may "disappear" while handling summer assignments, etc. We once exchanged emails with DS's Freshman Adviser while he was serving in Afghanistan for the summer. They will need to send you forms, including as physical form, and let you know when to report, which is often a week earlier than any other students so you can attend the NROTC freshman orientation. They also tell you what to bring to orientation. Finally, they will let you know all the courses you need to sign up for at your higher educational institution.

DS enrolled in NROTC without the scholarship. He won a scholarship in the middle of his sophomore year and is now serving as a 1st Lt in Okinawa.

Are you planning on enrolling as a Marine Option or a Navy Option?
 
kinnem said:
ekb1398 is essentially correct. You do get to participate in all the activities that a scholarship midshipman does, with the exception of summer training. You don't get to do summer training until you've won a scholarship or have achieved Advanced Standing (after your sophomore year).

You are obligated to serve once you have received a scholarship and contract, unless you enter with a scholarship as a freshman, in which case you get a year to change your mind.

I encourage you to contact the unit before the middle of May. Once the college semester is over then the officers may "disappear" while handling summer assignments, etc. We once exchanged emails with DS's Freshman Adviser while he was serving in Afghanistan for the summer. They will need to send you forms, including as physical form, and let you know when to report, which is often a week earlier than any other students so you can attend the NROTC freshman orientation. They also tell you what to bring to orientation. Finally, they will let you know all the courses you need to sign up for at your higher educational institution.

DS enrolled in NROTC without the scholarship. He won a scholarship in the middle of his sophomore year and is now serving as a 1st Lt in Okinawa.

Are you planning on enrolling as a Marine Option or a Navy Option?
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Thanks for the detailed answer. I'm asking for my DD who is interested in Navy.
 
RebelDad said:
Thanks for the detailed answer. I'm asking for my DD who is interested in Navy.
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You can probably find out more information by finding the NROTC web site at the college she plans to attend. It will often go into detail on this topic, plus provide other information about the unit.
 
That is true - forgot about summer training. Just to expand, should you never pick up a scholarship, you will contract and become obligated at the start of junior (2/c) year at which point you will receive all benefits except for tuition. You would also go to a unit for First Class summer training.
 
if you do not receive a scholarship or receive advance standing by junior year you ate done with ROTC is my understanding.
 
The way it works with AFROTC, scholarship or not, you have to be invited to Field Training during the summer between Sophmore and Junior year. If you pass, the non scholarship kids contract when the they start Junior year. The scholarship kids contracted their sophmore year. The scholarship kids have until the end of freshman year to get out of out Rotc without having to make any repayments. I think the names are changed, but it more or less follows the other branches of the Rotc
 
Humey said:
The way it works with AFROTC, scholarship or not, you have to be invited to Field Training during the summer between Sophmore and Junior year. If you pass, the non scholarship kids contract when the they start Junior year. The scholarship kids contracted their sophmore year. The scholarship kids have until the end of freshman year to get out of out Rotc without having to make any repayments. I think the names are changed, but it more or less follows the other branches of the Rotc
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It doesn't, at least for the first part.
 
ekb1398 said:
Humey said:
The way it works with AFROTC, scholarship or not, you have to be invited to Field Training during the summer between Sophmore and Junior year. If you pass, the non scholarship kids contract when the they start Junior year. The scholarship kids contracted their sophmore year. The scholarship kids have until the end of freshman year to get out of out Rotc without having to make any repayments. I think the names are changed, but it more or less follows the other branches of the Rotc
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It doesn't, at least for the first part.
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which part?
 
For NROTC you must achieve advanced standing by the start of your junior year or you are dismissed. In addition, Marine Options must successfully complete OCS between their junior and Senior years.

For AFROTC you must be invited to Field Training between your sophomore and junior year. If course you must complete it successfully. If you are not invited or do not complete Field Training you are dropped from the program (there are a few exceptions).

I expect AROTC also requires some form of approval to continue past sophomore year, but their program has gone through enough changes that I will no longer swear to anything.
 
kinnem said:
For NROTC you must achieve advanced standing by the start of your junior year or you are dismissed. In addition, Marine Options must successfully complete OCS between their junior and Senior years.
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There may be a new wrinkle in this one. I went down for a Junior ROTC orientation meeting last month for kids interested in NROTC . The PNS was saying something about being able to even extend this into the junior year -- albeit rare and the midshipman would have to be outstanding. To be honest though, I didn't write any of the details down (which weren't many) because the goal is still to get the scholarship.
 
kinnem said:
For NROTC you must achieve advanced standing by the start of your junior year or you are dismissed. In addition, Marine Options must successfully complete OCS between their junior and Senior years.

For AFROTC you must be invited to Field Training between your sophomore and junior year. If course you must complete it successfully. If you are not invited or do not complete Field Training you are dropped from the program (there are a few exceptions).

I expect AROTC also requires some form of approval to continue past sophomore year, but their program has gone through enough changes that I will no longer swear to anything.
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Isnt that what I said about the AFROTC
 
@Humey Yes you did. I was just trying to include all the services in one post so folks didn't have to search through them to get the whole story. I probably should have included an acknowledgement of your excellent post.
 
kinnem said:
@Humey Yes you did. I was just trying to include all the services in one post so folks didn't have to search through them to get the whole story. I probably should have included an acknowledgement of your excellent post.
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gotcha and thanks for the explanation. Actually I screwed up, someone else said said I was wrong about something and I responded which part. When you posted, I just assumed it was him responding to me.
 
It was that apparent confusion which prompted me to try to put it all in one place.
 
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