NROTC Scholarship and Gap Year

Where do you get that impression from? I suppose it could end up being expensive (~20k--but this wouldn't be a record), though the Navy Scholarship would pay for an awful lot of the college expenses. Assuming I can get it again.

Well, looking at the schools you listed on previous post, they all have tuition of roughly 40K per year. Multiply that by 4 and add in the stipend and book money including fees, and your knocking on the door of 180K plus, sounds like a record in my book since this is what the Navy is prepared to give you now.

In the 4 years I've been reading this forum I have never heard anyone receiving a NROTC scholarship after taking a year off high school.

To assume you will get the same scholarship again after declining the current one is a stretch. Next year will be even more competitive then this year.
 
key word:

Assume

We all wish you the best.

It is clear you have made your decision our opinions don't matter. That is the way it should be. Your life, not ours.

I do wonder why you started this thread if you were already set on your path.

Best of luck. The class of 17 will see you on the flip side in 18 when they are O1s and, if, you commission.

OBTW, it isn't 20K. You are assuming you will get it again next yr. In essence it can be 100K. (4 yrs). Have you heard/read about that silly thing called sequestration? It is not just 1 yr regarding cuts for the DOD, it is actually 10 YRS!
 
Have you heard/read about that silly thing called sequestration? It is not just 1 yr regarding cuts for the DOD, it is actually 10 YRS!

Good Point.
 
I think he was referring to your assumption. If you don't get it again, and my own suspicion is you won't, you or your parents will be left with a pretty big financial burden to get you through college.

Oh Ok that makes sense.

Don't count me out yet (that is if I do decide to take a gap year).

I haven't made a decision yet--I made this thread to help me decide and to see what my options were. You guys have certainly seemed to enjoy sharing your thoughts here anyway.
 
Oh Ok that makes sense.

Don't count me out yet (that is if I do decide to take a gap year).

I haven't made a decision yet--I made this thread to help me decide and to see what my options were. You guys have certainly seemed to enjoy sharing your thoughts here anyway.

What do your parents say about all this?
 
I knew this reminded me of something, It's like that Game Show "Let's Make a Deal"

Standing there with 180K in your hand, trying to decide whether to trade it for what's behind curtain number 2.

As you can tell most people here have had a hard time wrapping this whole Gap year thing around their collective heads, when your holding the brass ring in your hand. You must have the most understanding parents I have ever heard of.

It seems like you came here looking for agreement to what you had already decided though I'm sure you have a lot to think about.

Please come back after tomorrow and let us know what you decided to do, I'm sure we would all like to know.

If you do decide to take that Gap year, I hope you spend it traveling somewhere, I spent a year working before I left, I hated it, all my friends were off at college having the time of their lives and I was living at home, working, and when not working, I was just plain bored. I sure wish I could have that year back.
 
If you do decide to take that Gap year, I hope you spend it traveling somewhere, I spent a year working before I left, I hated it, all my friends were off at college having the time of their lives and I was living at home, working, and when not working, I was just plain bored. I sure wish I could have that year back.

You get it back in retirement. You get the GAP year then too. I'm taking mine right now. :biggrin:
 
@NROTC, you are obviously not paying attention to anything that has been written.

You asked for advice and you ignore all of it. If your contact at NROTC told you that a gap year is doable and a good Idea, then pay your college of choice the deposit and defer. Your using a horse$^!+ discussion of gap years from Harvard's website to justify your decision shows you have no idea what you're doing. They work their applicants and applicants' parents into a lather, and then admonish them to not burn out. That's very rich.

I gave you sound advice based on real experience, albeit in AROTC two years ago. DS decided to take the year off living 10 months in a zero english, Chinese only environment, going to a zero English High School, which didn't even teach him Chinese. He made the decision with no guarantee that AROTC would hold the scholarship. They ended up deferring and even transferred it to another, albeit cheaper school, where he had been given a very generous academic scholarship. It was a calculated risk he took, to take advantage of an opportunity which would not avail itself again.

He didn't wring his hands and ask everyone what they thought. He had a plan of progressive contingencies which led to several different, but certain outcomes. You have no plan, you waited to the last minute, and you don't like any of our answers.

Here is my final advice. Just do the gap year. Be a man, make a decision and live with the consequences. Let us know how it goes.

With all that said, I think none of this is serious. I think this is only your latest forum identity. You sound just like one of several OP's who start out with a milquetoast post asking for advice. You get serious answers from Kinnem, Pima, et. al. and then you then argue each point while at the same time begging for validation.

If if were up to me I would cut the Navy's losses and yank the scholarship post haste.
 
+1 to cb7893

This thread hasn't always passed the smell test.

That being said, the OP doesn't seem to possess the resolve that the NROTC deserves.

I believe that the majority of scholarship recipients have an overwhelming desire to pursue this dream.

I watched my DS's journey over the last six years, when as a 13 year old he announced that he wanted to be an officer in the air force. Much of his life since then was dedicated to achieving an appointment to the academy or a ROTC scholarship. It's a calling. If you have to be talked into it, then it probably isn't the right time.
 
You guys need to chill out. I am trying to most the most of the opportunities available to me. You seem to enjoy criticizing me through your anonymous keyboards and computer screens.

Im probably not going to take a gap year now. You've all goaded me into taking the easy and simple route.

I came here looking for advice and information. It seems like some of you care more about criticizing me from up on your thrones then about trying to help me figure out what to do. It seems dubious whether some of you care about either my interests or the navy's (WHICH ARE NOT DIVERGENT).
 
IF you actually explained what you would be doing in your gap year I would be more supportive but all you said was to take advantage of opportunities.

Look, I am a recent college graduate who took 5 months off before heading back for night classes at a local CC. Guess what? It was hard. Even after just 5 months of a break the difficulty of getting into a routine of studying with a full time job is not easy. CCs are full of people who took that gap year and just didn't go back until 20 years later and their life is not something I would desire (simultaneous family, job, out of the classroom time etc).

This is coming from a guy who did ROTC and enjoyed the college "life", if you want to do something fun do it in the summer or study abroad. Do no throw away a full-ride just for a gap year that might turn into a gap life. Trust me I have seen it happen more then once.
 
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I don't see the point of this. I am (was) trying to figure out what to do. Posting a thread here may have been one of the worst things I have ever done.

I'm really not sure what you expected to hear from this forum. Your first question was whether it was possible to get a delay of the scholarship, that was answered early on. It was you that kept things going on how you wanted to take advantage of some unknown opportunities.

I am pretty confident that any of the comments that were written here would have relayed to the sons or daughters of any of the posters if they would have said they were considering giving up a full scholarship just to take a year off school. I certainly don't think anyone was speaking from a throne, just from experience.

If you ask a question that has such high consequences you need to be prepared for any answer.

What struck me the most is why you were even asking this question on a board like this, it seems this is something you would be discussing with your parents, not strangers. When asked for any clarification you only gave vague answers, you can't expect any support if you don't give any reasons.

When and if you start NROTC there will be times when you will need to ask questions or advice, if you didn't like the responses you received here, wait until you get theirs, they're not paid to be kind and gentle.

There was some good advice given to you in this thread, you may have taken some as abbrasive, but you need to understand, a lot of people have a hard time understanding why someone would give up an opportunity like this.

Now, if you had come here and said you were unsure whether you wanted to commit to the Navy and you need some more time to think about it, this would have been an entirely different conversation. You just said you wanted to take a year off but you were still committed to being in the Navy, that's what was hard to understand without any explanation.

While it may seem harsh, most here just don't want to see you throw away an opportunity like this. Talk to your parents, make your own decision, as someone said it's your life, your choice.

You've all goaded me into taking the easy and simple route.

OK, this one just made me laugh....easy and simple, you do realize how difficult this is.

After reading that post, maybe it is a good idea that you take a Gap year, give you time to "Chill Out" as you put it.
 
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You guys need to chill out. I am trying to most the most of the opportunities available to me. You seem to enjoy criticizing me through your anonymous keyboards and computer screens.

Im probably not going to take a gap year now. You've all goaded me into taking the easy and simple route.

I came here looking for advice and information. It seems like some of you care more about criticizing me from up on your thrones then about trying to help me figure out what to do. It seems dubious whether some of you care about either my interests or the navy's (WHICH ARE NOT DIVERGENT).

No, I believe it is you who needs to 'chill out'. Everyone on here has tried to answer your question, and their answers don't fit with what you want.

The point is you have an opportunity that hundreds of other high school seniors applied for, and didn't get. I'm sure they are willing to keep at it and continue school without a year off for doing whatever it is you think you want to do. They don't have that opportunity, though.

It's too bad that you think that continuing school as scheduled is the "simple and easy way out". That's not how it would appear to the rest of us.

In this instance I think that the needs of the Navy are divergent from yours. And of course, the Navy's needs are more important. Take the gap year and open the scholarship spot for someone who will use it wisely.

Stealth_81
 
Jcleppe said:
What struck me the most is why you were even asking this question on a board like this, it seems this is something you would be discussing with your parents, not strangers. When asked for any clarification you only gave vague answers, you can't expect any support if you don't give any reasons.

Many kids come here because they are looking for a defense to take to their parents. This is purely speculative, but I am guessing he did indeed go to his parents and discuss this issue. I am guessing that his parents probably had the exact same reaction everyone is having here.

It is easier to lash out at us than to your own parents. NROTC_HOPEFULLY that is how I see it.

You want support for your choice, but you are not getting it anywhere you turn. The thing is you believe you are in the right, and we are all in the wrong when it comes to this decision. You have to ask yourself how it can be 0 posters after multiple pages do not agree with you, but you refuse to accept it? How can it be everyone else is wrong? Wouldn't it be more likely it is you?


Maybe I have missed it in the threads, but I don't recall ever reading you want to be in the Navy. I am wondering if this is in it for the scholarship, not in it to serve. You don't discuss any Navy desires, you are like a dog with a bone stuck on defense regarding your position.

There is nothing wrong to take this as a way to pay for college. Many do exactly that. However, if you already know at 4 your are looking for the door and you are taking the scholarship to pay for college. I think it is really crass to try to get more bennies, such as a GAP yr.

Finally, I would hope you look through the bowels on this forum regarding Gojira's thread if you assume that in 5 yrs from now (assuming you get approval for Gap and keep the scholarship), how they can cut you loose 6 weeks prior to commissioning and demand the scholarship money back. Her DS did everything right. He wanted to serve and never took a gap yr. He was handed a 143K bill. Reason why? 6 weeks prior he was 8 lbs over max weight. That is how trivial they can get. I am positive he could lose 8 lbs in 6 weeks, but they didn't give him the option.

I would also look at the current thread of another ROTC cadet that dis-enrolled as a jr. They are looking at a 96K bill.

As I said earlier, if you get to keep this scholarship and do GAP, take the time to address if you want to be in NROTC when you return/enter. If you don't and than drop after that 1 yr where it is the no harm, no foul yr., expect to become the most despised person in the det. IMPO, rightfully so, because you had that extra yr. to decide while your peers didn't. You used the Navy to your advantage with no concern of the impact it has on other mids.

Best of luck, and I hope in the yr you do gap, you also find a way to accept opinions that are in contrast with what you want to hear/read.
 
Yup, you guys are all right. Thank you for the real world advice. Will be going to college next year, class of '17.

Thank you.
 
Just curiosity question.

Will you now think differently when posting? I.E. you battled posters, took an antagonistic approach regarding this subject. Will you hang here to be a source of info for 2018 candidates, or will you bolt?

I hope you hang. You have a unique perspective, which equates to an asset on this forum.

Many posters stay because like you, they found that their situation was unique. SAF is successful because of posters like you. Unique questions. You leave, you leave the next yr group receiving info that is anecdotal at best because of this thread. You stay, you can guide, direct, assist a poster in your shoes on why/how you decided not to go Gap...that is one reason pm's exist!
 
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Just curiosity question.

Will you now think differently when posting? Will you hang here to be a source of info for 2018 candidates, or will you bolt?

I will be more careful from now on.

I will try to share my experiences with the 2018 applicants.
 
Just curiosity question.

Will you now think differently when posting? I.E. you battled posters, took an antagonistic approach regarding this subject. Will you hang here to be a source of info for 2018 candidates, or will you bolt?

He will hang. In '18 he will post about the time in Sr yr he read an article that made him want to take a gap year....:shake: (we will have to wait till the future to see the ending to that post)



N Hopeful -

Its tough after high school. You will make a lot of choices in your next 4 years. Remember, you applied and some board of men and women chose YOU. They went through your app and thousands of others. You got this, choose wisely because they can drop you any day.

Seriously, think about something you want to do and do it during Christmas break during your college years.




I appreciate the advice. Thank you all. (I can tell you guys think I'm crazy though)

The NROTC person said that I could reapply to the HSSP again and that he personally thought gap years were a good thing. I would be a much stronger applicant then I was when I first applied and I don't think they would hold it against me... but you guys seem to think they might.

I don't know what to do.


Yeah, probably but its better asking them than your parents. :rolleyes: After you made the decision to go choose NROTC, show your parents the article and say something like 'seems kinda foolish for me with the Navy wanting me' to see what they think about it or other kids doing it.


comments that were written here would have relayed to the sons or daughters of any of the posters if they would have said they were considering giving up a full scholarship just to take a year off school. I certainly don't think anyone was speaking from a throne, just from experience.

What struck me the most is why you were even asking this question on a board like this, it seems this is something you would be discussing with your parents, not strangers. When asked for any clarification you only gave vague answers, you can't expect any support if you don't give any reasons.

Jcleppe - Because his parents would think its wrong. :yllol:
 
NROTC,

I am glad you will hang, but what bothers me is your post saying I will be more careful.

I hope that is not the case. I hope that hindsight will be a factor. You will realize we weren't being jerks or a$$es. You will mature and see our opinions were based on experience and insight.

I truly hope come Aug/Sept and join your NROTC det. you will embrace it. If you do you will understand the posts your have read.

With kindness, your post did something that rarely ever occurs. Army, Navy, Marine, and Air Force banded together. There was no one branch is better than another.

Take heed to that.
 
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