Good to know, thanks. Out of curiosity, how common is it for a MIDN to get a 1 or 2 on his/her DD785 following a simple academic (not behavioral/moral) disenrollment?
All dependent on the mid's performance other than the academics. Active in the unit, performed well in leadership roles that were assigned, PT status, etc.
My only slight quibble with this excellent strategic advice is college GPA is important, depending on what community is applied for. I would think a 3.0 is a lower limit. OCS is competitive, and the Navy cherry-picks exactly who it needs to meet officer accession quotas for the year. If this young man climbs back up in academics and has “good paper” out of the NROTC unit if disenrolled, he should have a good shot.
Thanks @Capt MJ.
Ah, much better. As an OCS grad, I was feeling tetchy that my “stats” weren’t of consequence, lo these many decades later.
Sorry to hear this. I imagine your son is hard at work on his response to the PRB decision. Suggest he review the PRB package for accuracy - particularly the summarized testimony. He wants to make sure his point of view was captured (and recorded) accurately. If there were details/circumstances he did not disclose that he wish he had, now's the time to make his case again. And he'll have another chance too. Your son is afforded another 5 business days to make an additional statement after he receives the PNS decision.
He's certainly disappointed, and is working on his response as we speak. Thanks again for the info. Interestingly, he didn't receive a copy of the summarized testimony. His verbal testimony wasn't even specifically referenced as an enclosure, only his written statement. Perhaps all of of that is contained in the exhibits 1-6 (which were listed, but which he didn't receive). All he got was a 2-page memorandum titled "PRB Report." Good to know about the CO, and we'll certainly appeal if we don't get a favorable decision from the CO. He's a good man, but I'm not holding my breath. Awful hard to overturn your JOs. Out of curiosity, do you happen to know whether or not if he commissions into the Coast Guard his recoupment would also disappear? Not sure if they count since they're an Armed Service (DHS), but not DoD and ergo not under DFAS?
Do you have an update on how his semester turned out?
Process foul by unit. Yes, he should have received the enclosures too. He would not be wrong to ask the unit to send those documents.
So very sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and your family.
Thanks for the condolences. Good days and bad, but this certainly isn't helping. He hasn't received the PNS's decision yet, and he's drafting a response now. We decided against an attorney, because my son feels that if the facts of this case aren't compelling enough for the PNS to decide in his favor, and the Navy truly doesn't want him, then no amount of legal maneuvering is going to make serving in the Navy tenable. He'll simply commission into another branch.
Thank you for the update. I am sorry your son and your family had to cope with all of this. I also truly understand the 'unforgiveable sin' comment, and I am sure others may take issue. However, after having my own child take a LOA due to the .03 below required GPA I get where you are coming from. And it does leave a bad taste, when you have first-hand knowledge of the 'favorites'- but that is life I suppose. As observed, there were many other issues with some other students in the program whose 'sins' were far more egregious, yet they remain. When my DD first received her scholarship it was a 2.0 that was required, then upon entering college it was boosted to 2.5. In light of the difficult and technical majors that are generally required for the Navy, and in light of the fact that all branches are not meeting their enlisted quotas, it is even more sad that there is no 'give' here. These are young men and women who want to serve. If my DD could do it all over again, I would advise her to take the easiest major, and attend the easier college, rather than challenge oneself, just work to have the highest GPA, even if you dislike the subject.
Thank you for the well-wishes. He is in a great place with the Navy's decision. The quality of officer he was exposed to was eye opening for sure, but he now sees it as an opportunity to learn how *not* to lead. Sometimes a negative example can be more powerful than a positive one. As for the rug-pull on the opportunity to serve, we had a long talk about that. I told him that the honor and sacrifice is in volunteering. If (for whatever reason) the United States says "thank you for the offer, but we're going to pass" then your moral and civic obligation as a citizen on that front is fulfilled in toto. He handed them a blank check, and they tore it up. No harm, no foul. As for the degree, I might part with you there. I'd still encourage any young person wanting to look at commissioning to look into it, but with eyes wide open. Go for the degree you want, and which you think will give you the best ROI and enjoyment in life. Don't pick a degree based on the "needs of the service". There'll be plenty of that down the line if you actually commission. That's what happened to my son. The Navy "wanted" engineering, so he picked MechE as the best of the bunch. Things may have been different had he picked Applied Math from the beginning, but we'll never know. Either way, instead of wearing a khaki suit for 4 years in the hopes of working his way into ONI or NRL, he'll be wearing khakis and a polo going to work directly for the IC & the labs. There are other ways to serve your country than in uniform. Not for nothing, but they pay better, too. haha