Officer and Enlisted Marriage After Graduation/Commissioning

So, something to consider (especially given the service branch of the posters in here) is that such situations are far less taboo in the AF. I RARELY hear of fraternization issues in the Air Force and typically they only come up when there is a chain of command concern. In general*, this type of situation does not lead to legal action. In your case, the sight picture regulation is very suspect and probably wouldn't last a real investigation. IF you two were to be able to last until USAFA graduation four years later, I would expect that you would be engaged. In that case, you did not initiate your relationship breaking frat rules and you intended to get married as soon as authorized.

MY opinion, and this is only me so take it as you will, is that you are fine. I would not advertise your relationship to upperclass cadets or leadership. If confronted, be completely honest. If you two really do make it as part of the 2% club - good on you. In the meantime, this will likely be a low priority on your list of new things in life at USAFA.


*Different commanders may approach differently and some people will not worry about it. You may be at the whim of your particular chain of command.
 
hornetguy said:
So, something to consider (especially given the service branch of the posters in here) is that such situations are far less taboo in the AF. .
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If true that only goes to reinforce typical stereotypes of the air force :)



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kp2001 said:
This is bad gouge except in very, very explicit conditions where the marriage occurred when fraternization was not the case.

I'm not sure why the confusion, the AFI is fairly explicit when it comes to this which can be found by googling afi 36-2909.

Section 5: specific prohibitions relating to officers:

"Officers will not engage in sextant relations with or date enlisted members"

5.1.3.1 "officer/enlisted marriages. When evidence of fraternization exists, the fact that an officer and enlisted member subsequently marry does not preclude appropriate command action based on the prior fraternization." It then goes on to describe how officer/enlisted marriages in specific situations can occur and be okay.

If there are updates to this AFI I'd be interested to see as this one is dated 1999.

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My point is that marriage in itself is not considered frat. Of course prior engagements are considered inappropriate regardless, but this is what I am referring to: "Generally, marriage 'cures' fraternization. In other words, an officer who is legally married to an enlisted member cannot be charged with fraternization for conduct occurring after the marriage." (from the website sldn.org) I realize this isn't very broad, but if you marry someone who is enlisted, you aren't breaking any rules. So if you really believe in love at first sight (or are sneaky enough not to get slapped with frat) you can marry without a hitch! :rolleyes:
 
Regardless of what the AFI is, according to the CSP you cannot have relationships with enlisted members even if there was a prior relationship. This is a new change to the CSP this year so I'm not sure how they will enforce this but it is something to be aware of.


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