Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by DevilDog, Mar 9, 2011.
How will life change for the current Doolies?
Good luck ! And please share what you can about recognition.
Not really supposed to talk about recognition. We get destroyed physically. Thats all you really need to know. Once recognized though we get to have our civilian clothes, we dont have to eat or walk at attention, and we are allowed music/xbox/movies/etc...
oh! and no more knowledge tests! thank goodness its finally here ha
Civilian clothes as a 4/c? Carry on this early in the year?
Wow....no wonder they say the Air Force Academy is the easiest
come spend a year in my shoes and tell me that its easy.
I did not know it was so easy. I always heard it is the hardest to get in of the academies. My son does not think it is so easy, and he is a pretty tough kid.
They seem to churn out officers that staff the greatest air power on the planet, so they must be doing something right.
Same with the k-tests.
This site is meant for future applicants and appointees who have yet to experience what we have experienced. They need to have their own experience not live through ours, that is why you will never see much about recognition on here. If you make it in here all the way to recognition, you will know what it is about, if not, then it is a secret that is buried deep in academy tradition.
As for the privileges we earn in 4 days? Well, all the SA's are different, and the AFA condenses all the BS into 9 months, while the others spread it out over a couple years. I agree with Rage, come over here for a month before recognition and tell us all that it is easy...
i don't know about Coast Guard, but i hear both Army and Navy exchange cadets admit that USAFA 4 deg year is harder than their plebe year.
besides, the Coast Guard isn't even part of the military. it's just the peace corps for puddle-jumpers
Physical abuse and knowledge tests. Perfect!
On a more serious note : I was about 2 decades in the special ops community. We do a very good job with that sort of stuff in selection and training. I try to share that with my DS. It's never personal, and never lose your perspective or sense of humor.
Good luck to you guys!
Our thoughts & prayers are with all the 4 degs for the coming weekend! 2014 - Like a Machine!
He was just messing with you. Each Academy has their hardships. From what I hear, recognition is no joke and pushes you to and past your limit. I don't know how it works at USAFA but here, we joke with everyone, including the USAFA and USNA exchangers. According to the exchangers, our summer training is the hardest. Our academic year is more mental, we don't get beat but the 2/c do have their ways of making sure we don't forget that we're 4/c and haven't earned anything yet.
Anyway, good luck with Recognition! That will definitely be an accomplishment. We have something similar called Challenge of the Guardian in April. That's when we'll get carry on. Unfortunately, civilian clothes do not come until 2/c year. That is one thing I am definitely jealous about with the other SAs.
Good luck to USAFA c/o 2014! Let us know how it goes!
Just to clarify, it is not abuse at all. There are very strict training standards and permanent party is everywhere to make sure that the standards are followed. I dont know what they are, but as much as they push us, they make every effort to ensure safety.
Just some friendly ribbing from one of your fellow SA cadets guys.
I bet you're experience has been similar to mine in some ways, different than others. It seems like the school year is more physical for you guys, but you don't have everyone constantly watching you and seeing if you're braced up (no doubt due to the size of our respective Academies).
Again just some friendly ribbing. I wouldn't say it's the hardest out of all the SA's to get into; each one looks for different things. For instance, CGA accepted less than 300 out of an application pool of over 4000 (without congressional noms, so we competed nationwide)
Of course their doing something right, they're the United States Air Force Academy
Yup, you nailed that one Brian. All of the SA's are different. If I'm lucky enough to get exchange at AFA, I'll take you up on that offer
The Army and Navy exchangers said the same thing about our 4/c year as well. I'm guessing that it's because we're smaller and it's harder to "fly under the radar". And you guys have a huge physical component to it. Instead of having "beat down" sessions, we're required to participate in sports both semesters.
Whenever you read about the Navy pulling over Pirates, it's actually a Coast Guard LEDET due to the fact that y'all in DoD can't enforce international law or it'd be considered a declaration of war.
puddle pirates? Typical jibe coming from the Chair Force
By the way, you haven't spent a year in those shoes. More like 8 months.
We love our Air University brethren...someone has to have it easy
Gotta keep the young ones straight.
The consensus I (and others) have gathered from the exchange cadets/mids is that we have the toughest freshman year, then the best upperclass years.
All subject to debate though.
Good luck 2014.
Funny, they say the same thing at USMA. And USNA.
How far is it to Jack's Valley?
USAFA has required sports (intermural, club, or IC) each semester, as well.
Scoutpilot, Jack's is about 2mi from the cadet area, but the basics take the 5-6mi route to get there. The march out/back is a tradition, not a test.
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