Physics Tutor

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We had similar things going on in the early eighties and this translated into frankly more "washouts" plebe year than say were the norm in the late nineties and at the turn of the millennium. So, the professor may in fact be responding to Administration desires ............

KP13mom. you probably are correct, but, my pea brain is still confused about the comment above. Looks to me like - More washout in the 80's, then less wasouts in the 90's and 2000's, so we might need to get back to the 80's levels? But, again, I am probably wrong.

I am just not clear on what the "administration desires" may mean here. But, Jasperdog will chime in and set me staight. He is really a valued "poster" here.
 
In response ...

First I want to emphasize I was and am speculating - I have no first hand information other than the publicly stated desire in 2009 to increase the standards both academically and otherwise a pretty universally supported effort.

What I pointed out was that in 2008 and 2009 the entering Classes of 2012 and 2013, at ~300 plebe candidates, were larger by a not insignificant measure than the recent prior classes. Further, it was stated, by the then incoming but now departed Superintendent, that the grounds for offering setbacks would be more carefully reviewed than in the past and the possible result could be fewer mids would get setbacks, especially multiple setbacks. BTW, data supported multiple setbacks were not a very good investment on the Government's part unless there were some very solid extenuating circumstances. At least there was data that was pointed to that supported the position.

So given those statements and circumstances I speculated that it was possible that today, as in 1977, 1978 and 1979 it was possible that the resignation rate during the first trimester today, as it was during the first two quarters of those years, was insufficient to reduce the number of midshipmen in the regiment to the planned and budgeted levels.

That is not to say or even imply that any professor or the faculty in general has been given any quotas nor would they be. However certain things were done back then that one could easily see being done now both both in terms of directives from the Commandant to the COs and from the Dean to the faculty. These things would in ensuring the standards got raised and such efforts had teeth likely result in more Plebes failing out. For example "back in the day" after our first academic quarter, the Dean issued a directive that NO midterms or final exams could contain questions that were identical to prior mid-term or final exams given by a Professor. Those familiar with the extensive "pony libraries and archives" at KP could see why that might be done. Further there were rumors that the only grade scales had to be uncurved or a normally distributed bell curve- this was never substantiated but it was rumored to be why one particular academic section of ~25 had 10+ students fail Physics 2. I never believed the urban legend about rules on curves but I do remember feeling that my plebe year after first quarter, ponies were little more than mediocre study aids, and I don't recall any "hitting" following the end of first quarter until we returned from our first sea year as B splits in January.

On the regimental front we saw more restrictions and more demerits given out by Battalion (we had Battalion Officers back then like the current regiment has Company officers) Officers, etc. We also saw more stringent, clearer objective grading scales applied to papers, etc. and we suspected there were requirements and guidelines pushed in that regard as well. All of these things had the effect of ensuring that at the end of the day the Classes of 1981, 1982 and 1983 had washout rates of about 20%, which though lower than many other graduating classes , was to at least some degree, in spite of the fact that they had entering classes of ~310 students and average standardized test scores, class ranks, etc. generally felt to be 15 - 25% higher than was the norm in those times. The other fact is that greater numbers of involuntary resignations for academics occurred in the second and third quarters (we used to have 10 week academic quarters) of our plebe years than occurred during the first or fourth quarters. In other words things didn't get easier until after recognition on any front for us.

One might ask how and why after 30 years I'd remember such details. I'd respond that's because of two things - a) I have a pretty good memory and b) intense stress has a way of etching certain things into ones brain so they stay there for long periods of time.

As far as administration desires what I am talking about/referring to here is the basic administration desire to make sure that every upper class midshipman returning from sea have a bed to sleep in. Nothing more or less. Finally to state it directly no I would not think anyone in the Academic Departments have been given anything that even smells like a quota.
 
DS said he has heard that the Admin is considering spreading physics 1 and 2 out over 3 tri's instead of the current 2 to slow the course up and give more people a greater chance of passing. If Calc and physics are causing most of the academic washouts during plebe year, looks like they are considering other alternatives. What kills my DS is when someone has a 3.5 index and wants to leave KP when DS is struggling to get B's and C's, living in constant fear of failing and wants to stay. Go figure.
 
Well...

What kills my DS is when someone has a 3.5 index and wants to leave KP when DS is struggling to get B's and C's, living in constant fear of failing and wants to stay. Go figure.

Well my reaction might be very different depending on really one thing...

1) If the person with the 3.5 GPA who really wants to leave and resigns AFTER they've completed their first sea year after they've really been there and done enough of it to know that pretty much none of the many "options and opportunities" after graduation is for them, I'd be supportive of them. My advice though would be to know where and what they wanted to do next though. Same advice I've used with younger professionals I've mentored when consulted for advice about career moves - "Always jump TO something you want; don't jump/run FROM something..."

2) Now if it's someone who hasn't completed their first sea year my advice is stay and make sure you really have tried what KP has to offer - sample the full buffet, it's not all cleaning stations, etc... In other words make sure you have the full set of information so you can make an informed decision.

3) Finally, if it's just someone who is doing well having a bad case of KPS and spouting off. In other words they have learned that Merchant Mariner skill of "bi%@&ing" really well. My advice is alot, lot different. It starts with - "Look, they don't say KP is a great place to be from for no reason at all. That said, bi%@&ing loudly and frequently doesn't do anything but make yourself and everyone around you more miserable. So why don't you either just throw in the towel and resign now, or stop your whining, please... Oh and I'm not saying that life many days at KP isn't a pain in the neck, but if you really want to quit and go to a "regular school", join a frat, and party every day be like Nike and "Just Do It" instead of talking about it all the time..."

From experience, I'd say unfortunately the majority of the kids with Silver or Gold Star GPAs that talk about wanting to leave are somewhere in group 3. They really just don't want to leave, they just like to complain about how "not fun" KP is most days...
 
Follow Up

WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY! I have neglected to tell you all the end of this story. Our Plebe, since the tutor had left, found an upper classman to tutor them. He studied like mad on his own in a week he had 3 other exams. He went to 2 tutor sessions (ALONG WITH OTHER PLEBES) from the upperclassman, each time coming back and feeling a little better. Some plebes must have gone to the dean or something, because the instructor offered 2 extra study sessions of his own. Our plebe went to one of them (he had an off campus DR appt for a minor injury and could not go to the 2nd one). But he did take his physics book with him to study while off campus for that appt. After the world had nearly come to a screeching halt for him when the tutor left, he did very well on the test. So I am predicting next week, the world will be crumbling around him once again, because there is another exam. We will go through this cycle all over again and he will do OK on the exam. The point being, there is help out there for those who will seek it. We were shocked that even through our parents assoc, we found yet another upperclassman whose mother wanted our plebe to visit him for tutoring. When something does not go right, you just try another path. But I still think this post has generated enough interest that it does substantiate the need for another paid tutor to fill the shoes of the one recently departed. These plebes need all the help available to them for the tough classes.
 
Physics "Person"

My student also struggled with Physics 'person' - this one boasted of the amiount of his failures. After meeting him and sitting in on his class during Parents Weekend, I could understand why so many were failing.

He filpped one overhead after overhead with very little discussion of how to complete the problems. My student would copy the top of the overhead and a friend would copy the bottom to be used in their studying. He had one example on the board and after 15 minutes declared it was wrong.....after the Plebes had copied it all down, ot accurately making corrections.There was never any time given to asking questions while working the problem. When the students asked for another example for board work, the 'person' could NOT come up with one on the spot. There were several Parents that volunteered to explain the wrong one or give the students a new one.....'Oh no that can't be done" and he dismissed the class. When contacting the 'person' for direct help, he was always away on his office hours.

All the Plebes filled out the evaluation at the end of the course and my Midshipman went to the head of the department and the Academic Dean. Why is he still there???

As a teacher/educator of 39 years I was not surprised why he could boast of his failures. He was NO teacher.....14 out of her class of 24 spent the small summer term making up this class, thank goodness, with a different TEACHER that knew how to teach. A college degree DOES NOT make a teacher!!!! He could not even communicate his knowledge nor make tests that cover what was (not) learned.

There have only been 3 persons who 'pose as teachers' that my student has had. The BEST ones are the MARINERS who return from sea to impart there vast knowledge to the Midshipman.
 
Tutoring At MMA

In response to "noworries" suggestion of using "tutor.com/military-programs" I found out the following: The categories for registration were ....Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines. To me it sounded like a useful alternative to those in need of one-on-one tutoring. When I e-mailed the company to inquire as to where the MMA fell under I was told they were NOT eligible under the current contract. I was asked , though, if I knew who to contact that would be able to make such a purchasing decision. Although maybe a bit premature I was gathering information on behalf of my son, (Class of 2014) just in case...... I guess the MMA is still NOT recognized by enough of the the right people as the 5th service academy or maybe it IS recognized as such, but its students are the brightest of all the academies and therefore don't have the need for any tutoring! :smile: I for one would rather play it safe and have MMA eligible for the benefits of "tutor.com. Oh, and I guess The Coast Guard Academy didn't make the eligability list either!
 
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I too looked at the web site and found that the Naval Academy midshipmen are eligible for the tutoring service. But the whole site seemed aimed at more K-12 subject matter. Yes, Calculus was listed, but at what level and there was no mention of college physics tutoring, the real plebe slayer. The entire service appeared to be of a "pre college" level.
 
I found out the following: The categories for registration were ....Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines. To me it sounded like a useful alternative to those in need of one-on-one tutoring. When I e-mailed the company to inquire as to where the MMA fell under I was told they were NOT eligible under the current contract.

If you look at the bottom of the page it states this:

"This program is provided by the Department of Defense. Authorized patrons include U.S. active duty military service members, U.S. military reservists, U.S. National Guard personnel on active duty in a deployed status and DoD civilians in a deployed status, and their dependents."

As reservists they would seem to qualify under the "Navy" option; however, they need to log onto NKO (Navy Knowledge Online) first, which I would bet 99.9% of the midshipmen have never logged onto before.

Have them give a try of registering for an account at https://www.nko.navy.mil they should be able to if they are in DEERS (Defense Elgibility..... .... ....system or something like that).


Oh, and I guess The Coast Guard Academy didn't make the eligability list either!

They didn't make the list because it appears to be a DOD project and USCG doesn't fall under DOD.
 
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