Plan B?

Keep the scholarship for now

My son talked with the NROTC officer for our area last night. The officer said not to officially turn down the scholarship until I-Day, when it would automatically be cancelled. That way if something DID happen, my son would be covered. He said it's OK to do that. We have been sending letters/e-mails to all the schools that offered my son a spot ... and financial aid. That part is important because it frees up funds for other students.
 
colorado - proceed with extreme caution.

Not all claims are true - this is an advertisement. Greystone is only one option, not the only option and may not be the best option for many candidates.

You receive both training essential for the service academies and you receive college credit. You can even transfer credit to the service academies for certain courses. In matter of fact, you take classes hand in hand to that of first years at the service academies.

I take issue with the above. "training essential" for the sa's??? Anyone know what it means? It doesn't mean military training because there is no military training at Greystone. No ROTC either.

Credits do not transfer to SA's. You may get credit for the course if you pass a validation exam. Ths process varies by academy and by course.
 
Greystone Prep

colorado - proceed with extreme caution.

Not all claims are true - this is an advertisement. Greystone is only one option, not the only option and may not be the best option for many candidates.



I take issue with the above. "training essential" for the sa's??? Anyone know what it means? It doesn't mean military training because there is no military training at Greystone. No ROTC either.

Credits do not transfer to SA's. You may get credit for the course if you pass a validation exam. Ths process varies by academy and by course.


I do not know where your Greystone Quote comes from, but this is from the Greystone website, it does not talk about transfering courses and it expalins the other skills you will learn, that are esstential to success at a Service Academy.

"...You will earn up to 36 college credits in demanding courses such as Calculus, Chemistry, English and History – courses recommended by the academies but most importantly, courses in-sync with your academy 1st year courses. Experience in college-level courses not only improves and strengthens your intellectual faculties, it demonstrates your true scholastic capabilities and minimizes past academic weaknesses making you more competitive. You will also learn critical time-management skills, hone your decision-making abilities, and master the fine art of setting and sticking with priorities.

Your physical abilities will be improved through a rigorous daily fitness program and Schreiner athletic competition making you ready to engage the physical challenges of your academy indoctrination."
 
my greystone quote came from a post that was made and has since been deleted.
My post is now out of context.

colorado416 was also responding to the same post.
 
We've been urging our son to have a plan B in place in case something happens to him between now and I-Day. We were under the impression that it was common practice for kids who plan on going to a SA to register at a civilian college as well.

Well, our son's GC at school told him that he was not allowed to do that though.

What does everybody here do, and how do you go about it?

Sorry about the long post/rant but...

A couple of days ago, my sons school had their Awards Presentation night and my son was very fortunate. He received what would appear to be the most recognition and scholarships of all the 160 kids in his class. He was embarrassed but, he did work toward this goal for over three years now, and deserved it.
Six Marines (NROTC-MC Option) were there with a big laminated check for $150,000, the AROTC sent a certificate for his Citadel $150,000 scholarship (that was not given to him that night even though the Army Recruiter was there handing out enlistment bonus checks to two other students, they said he had enough awards) and, a West Point rep awarded him his Appointment to West Point Prep and shocked the crowd with a ball park value of over $350,000. It was fantastic, I've never been more proud in my life! He was one of only about a dozen students announced, and then called up to accept the awards, twice!

Now to the bad part of the evening....One of the Scholarships awarded to students in Florida is what's called the 'Bright Futures scholarship, a 75% tuition scholarship to students that maintain at least a 3.0 academic GPA for Florida State schools. My son was not called to the podium when they called all the other 50 or so kids that were awarded that scholarship. After the Ceremony was over, my son was being congratulated and people were shaking hands...etc...then, his senior seminar teacher (kind of a quasi "last semester GC" in course form because we only have one GC in a charter school of over 600 students) and she congratulated him. My son then asked her why he was not called up for the Bright Futures Scholarship award? She was furious! She told him he had to ask the GC and that he's not allowed to have two schools lined up, that would be unfair!!! The next day it spilled over to his HR teacher calling him aside and telling him that he was incredibly selfish asking Ms. so and so about an award when his other awards took most to the spotlight of the night and he should be happy with what he received! My son was caught of guard and this home room teacher was always a friend as well as confidant, DS didn't offer any reason why he asked about the award and he told me he apologized. I asked DS, "Why didn't you tell them you wondered about you GPA first!!?...did you tell them why you were asking about the Bright Futures Scholarship?"...he again said no! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
He said he was shocked and that there was even another student there complaining to my son about being selfish! The real reason he asked was:

~IT WAS PLAN B!!! PLAN B, everyone needs a PLAN B!!!!

He plans on going to a State school if, God forbid, something happens between now and then! They took it as he was tallying his scholarships up! That and they said he was ungrateful for all the work they did to facilitate his awards! What??? What help they did? The last two years of applications were like pulling teeth to get them to help, his Principal went as far to say once to me "Maybe he's setting his goals to high"!!!!
They answered the phone when the Army, Marines and West Point called after....my son set up the awards with his MALO and the local Marine Recruiter! He had even asked the Marine Recruiter to ~not award him the NROTC scholarship as he declined it but, the Captain said no, they would be there anyway, awarding a kid that enlisted a bonus check, and that he had won this scholarship, and they were awarding it whether or not he was accepting the offer. The school also told him the day before, that they weren't giving him his AROTC Scholarship award, he had to chose either the West Point Presentation or the AROTC presentation. He was fine with that, it made sense. We're laying low for a couple of weeks and just going to let it ride, I'm not going to take any chances but again, I'm sick to my stomach over this.
How obvious is it to have plan B in effect as a profession GC, and how do they not understand that a kid works on this plan for over three years, deserves to have the accolades! There is another underlying issue here military presence at this charter school, it's a Visual Arts CH and the Marine Recruiter has talked to me before about problems they have gaining access to this school and the anti-military attitude of the admins there.
 
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ARG! I felt your pain as I read your post. I suspect it hurt particularly because you weren't expecting this response - you (and your son) were caught completely off-guard and so of course your son was not ready with the smooth, reasoned answers he needed at that moment to fend off the vitriol.

It's all so...so..."high school" :confused1:
 
...We're laying low for a couple of weeks and just going to let it ride, I'm not going to take any chances but again, I'm sick to my stomach over this. How obvious is it to have plan B in effect...

Hmmm... you know your local situation... so "lay low" if you want. Maybe you have younger siblings coming through the system. But on the other hand, you might ask for a meeting with the administration. For example, if all students who meet certain criteria (set by the State of Florida, I assume) get a Bright Futures scholarship, I would want to know why my s/d didn't get one. (Was his paperwork not submitted? Is there a school policy that says students who receive full rides to... say, Harvard, don't get a "Bright Futures" scholarship?) If they (your son and anyone else left out who met the criteria) DID get one, then why were they left out of a group of 50 students? If they want to talk about "fair" who are they to decide a student shouldn't be recognized for work the State of Florida wants to recognize. If they wanted to "share the wealth," in terms of recognition, what's wrong with a polite (from the school), "We hope you'll understand, but because Son has such huge recognition earlier, we are going to list his name in the program, but not call him up -- again -- on stage. Okay?" That might be only one way to be "fair" to all the students. Maybe I misunderstand your post and your son got the scholarship, but just wasn't recognized for it. That's still not "fair." But I think a teacher and counselor were out of line, and may have injected their own biases into it. This should be a school policy issue. A humble request on your part and like discussion with the Superintendent may keep others from encountering this in the future.

Oh -- and Congratulations to your son on HIS "Bright Future!" :thumb:
 
Thank You! I'm lucky to have such a great kid!

The deal with Bright Futures is you must send in the paperwork by end of semester 8, or that's it, no chance later to sign up. We're doing that and he'll be eligible. My disappointment was the teacher going off on him and now with another student involved, that's really is unprofessional.
That and the comment about how much work she did for us, you know, building pyramids by themselves.... Seriously, it was like pulling teeth over the last couple of years to get 6 sets of letters, transcripts and paper work out at the end of junior year and then the evals. They really made a big deal about sending out paper work for a junior when they were busy with the seniors last year. It took gift certificates from Olive Garden to loosen the log jam on that one. Now they are realizing the prestige this could bring to the 8 year old charter school and now all of a sudden they're interested.
 
Greystone Information

I just want to answer a few specific questions about the Greystone program that were asked in this thread.

In February of 2009, the Chairman of the Board of Directors and the Director of Greystone met with the Superintendent of the Coast Guard Academy and their Admissions department. After a comprehensive brief on the Greystone Program, the Coast Guard Academy said Greystone will be included in the list of approved prep schools in the future. At a meeting the same week with West Point Admissions and the AOG scholarship representatives, the same result was obtained.

The AOG scholarship program like the Naval Academy Foundation Program are needs based programs. They use a formula to determine the split in cost between the scholarship program and the family of the applicant. Schreiner University does provide a grant to all Greystone students and regardless of where they are from, charges them in-state tuition. There are other grants and loans available to help defray the cost of one year of University education. I am unfamiliar with the Coast Guard program, so I cannot comment on how they would manage the tuition or tuition assistance for a Greystone student.

This year 9 ( 12 started the program, 3 dropped out for various reasons) students completed the program with the following results:
(Note: I numbered each student randomly, the number is not indicative of any kind of rank or GPA, it is strictly used to make it easier to distinguish each candidate.)
Candidate:
1. Naval Academy Foundation – Naval Academy Appointment
2. Naval Academy Foundation – Naval Academy Appointment
3. Naval Academy Foundation – Naval Academy Appointment
4. Naval Academy Foundation – Naval Academy Appointment
5. Non-sponsored – Appointments offered to USAFA, USNA, USCGA – Accepted USAFA appointment
6. Non-sponsored – Appointment offered to USMMA, wait listed USCGA and USMA – Accepted USMMA appointment
7. Non-sponsored – Wait listed USNA
8. Non-sponsored – Wait listed USMA
9. Non-sponsored – Appointments offered to USNA, USMA, USCGA – Accepted offer to USNA.

The two wait listed students (7 and 8) have several options if they are not picked up for their Academy. They can return to Schreiner University as Sophomores or they can go to any other college of their choice and take their 36 credit hours with them.

West Point has offered 5 appointments (not counting the two wait listed students listed above) to Greystone students over the past 5 years and as I stated above, will list Greystone as an approved prep program in the future.

All the other comments and questions about Greystone, the policies or decisions of admissions or scholarship organization, or the reasons why certain prep programs or life styles are “preferred” or not preferred are subjective comments by the individual who wrote the comment and should be interpreted in that light.
 
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