President Trump's national security adviser resigns.

CNN reported that becauseMcMaster is currently active duty he cannot turn down this job offer from his Commander in Chief. Anyone know if that is the case?
 
unkown1961 said:
CNN reported that becauseMcMaster is currently active duty he cannot turn down this job offer from his Commander in Chief. Anyone know if that is the case?
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Hmm...I believe he could still resign his commission.

I hope he doesn't turn it down.

He is an intellectual, he taught military history at USMA, including those battles he fought in.
He is one of the most storied commanders of the Battle of 73 Easting and he is NOT afraid to challenge the status quo.

He heavily criticized the whole Iraq War strategy under GWB.

He also wrote a book about how the Viet Nam War was botched by LBJ and MacNamara. And he additionally blames the Generals and Admirals who declined to push back against the White House.
 
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AROTC-dad said:
Hmm...I believe he could still resign his commission.

I hope he doesn't turn it down.

He is an intellectual, he taught military history at USMA, including those battles he fought in.
He is one of the most storied commanders of the Battle of 73 Easting and he is NOT afraid to challenge the status quo. He heavily criticized the whole Iraq War strategy under GWB.
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I like him as well. His pick surprises me because he will challenge the status quo.
 
unkown1961 said:
CNN reported that becauseMcMaster is currently active duty he cannot turn down this job offer from his Commander in Chief. Anyone know if that is the case?
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If this is true, Thank God!

We need an independent & intelligent man with integrity in this administration.
 
I hope McMaster and Mattis get on well. I like both. However, rank and service are so ingrained in the military. McMaster was a 3-star and never had a Combatant Command. McMaster will be at the White House, right? He will have more face-to-face with POTUS, correct? Recently retired generals of different rank and different service, in the two most prominent national security roles, seems a situation tailor-made for friction.

Not to mention, Steve Bannon, which brings us back full circle. I don't see McMaster putting up with political agendas when National Security decisions are being made. Of course, no administration operates without politics playing a role in National Security.
 
xyz321 said:
Senator McCain had some rather interesting things to say in Munich. I rather agree with him. And I specifically chose the Reuters report because they are relatively neutral. If it is your preference, both Breitbart and the Washington Post also covered this.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-mccain-trump-idUSKBN15W210
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Reuters is obviously fake news because it doesn't pros
Maplerock said:
You're called out President Trump for golfing. As for a source, it is public. Look it up. I do know it for a fact to be true.
I didn't say it was wrong, just pointed out that if you're criticizing President a Trump for it, you'd probably like to know how much #44 played.
So much hate...
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Well if you're going make a statement like that you probably should source it yourself. Making a definitive statement then saying "Look it up" is kind of weak.

So I looked it up for you. You were pretty accurate, as it turns out. The Golf Channel (a pretty neutral source) cites Obama played 333 rounds of golf (assume 18 holes per round) during his 8 year presidency.

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/obamas-final-tally-333-rounds-golf-potus/

Which breaks down to 42 rounds of golf per year. A little less than once a week on the links. Hardly an abdication of his presidential duties. Especially when compared to others.

Woodrow Wilson (1200 rounds) & Dwight Eisenhower (800 rounds) played far more in their respective 8 years, though.

But, really, who cares other than ardent political partisans?

Presidents do different things to relax when not in the Oval Office.

Teddy Roosevelt spent tons of time doing just about every physical activity a man can do when he was POTUS - we probably won't witness any future presidents who box in the White House.

Harry Truman was probably the least athletic president we've since Howard Taft, but he golfed, fished & spent a lot of time vacationing in Key West & back home in Missouri.

JFK liked swimming, sailing & touch football at Hyannisport. Good golfer when his back wasn't killing him.

LBJ had his Texas ranch. The first Western White House. Cut deals with legislators when golfing.

Nixon bowled a lot & drank Scotch. Lots of time at his own Western White House at San Clemente & with pal Bebe Reboza in Key Biscayne. Last US president to cruise up-and-down the Potomac on the Presidential Yacht (Carter had it sold in 1977 & no president since has expressed interest in bringing it back, much to the relief of the Secret Service, I imagine.) And he, too, as a golfer.

Gerald Ford didn't play the most golf (he was only in office 2+ years) but was probably the best. Regularly shot under 90 & was the only president who joined the USGA.

Carter played softball, was the first presidential jogger (1970s!!!) & did some golfing on his own.

Reagan spent a lot of time (probably more than any other president) on horseback at the Western White House at Santa Barbara. Enjoyed swimming. Also golfed. Not good, but had a powerful drive. Once he was playing round at Augusta, Georgia when an armed man crashed the course, took hostages & demanded to speak to Ronnie.

GHW Bush had his escape in Kennebunkport (gorgeous oceanfront town), motor boating, horseshoe tossing & golfing.

Bill Clinton also jogged a lot & spent a fair amount of time on the links himself.

GW Bush jogged almost daily, rode bicycles & played golf too. Spent a fair time at his own "Western White House" in Texas.

My point is that democrats will no doubt attack Trump for his vacations, his golfing, his endless campaigning. Much as republicans attacked Obama for his vacations, his golfing, etc. It's usually unfair and 100% partisan, i.e. current-day republicans will pull their hair out in outrage over Obama's golfing, while never be able to criticize past GOP POTUS' golfing habits (my god - that man Ike was virtually an absentee chief executive, eh?)
 
AROTC-dad said:
As one more interesting aside for President's Day, here is a "Task & Purpose" article that lists the eight most Bad-A** U.S. Presidents starting with George Washington.
Interesting stuff!

Some excerpts:
  • George Washington - During the Whiskey Rebellion, he was the only President to have led troops into battle as The President!
  • Andrew Jackson fended off an assassin by beating the heck out him with his cane!
  • Ulysses Grant supposedly dragged a howitzer into a church steeple for more effective firepower.
  • Teddy Roosevelt - Was shot in the chest, the bullet stopped by an eyeglass case, and still went on to make his speech before seeking medical help.
  • JFK - After having his boat cut in half, he pulled a wounded man to safety by swimming and pulling him on a raft with a rope in his teeth.
http://taskandpurpose.com/8-presidents-badass-military-records/
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Harry Truman was a 33 year man with horrible eyesight, engaged to be married and had never went to college, but he volunteered for the US Army in World War One. Was a commissioned officer, in command of an artillery unit & was on the Western Front (including the Argonne Forest) the last five months of the war.
 
Day-Tripper said:
Last US president to cruise up-and-down the Potomac on the Presidential Yacht (Carter had it sold in 1977 & no president since has expressed interest in bringing it back, much to the relief of the Secret Service, I imagine.)
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I miss that Yacht, had the pleasure of being aboard a few times for shake down and maintenance cruises. President Ford did come on board a couple times but we never left the dock, his daughter took it out a couple times. The Coast Guard ran the Yacht and it was beautiful but old and required a lot of maintenance. You're right, the Secret Service did not like the prospect of the president on the yacht, it was difficult to keep secure from shore as it moved along the river. We had chase boats that were well armed but keeping the land secure on each side of the river was a nightmare. I loved being aboard, there was a lot of history on that old boat. Thanks for bringing up some fond memories.
 
unkown1961 said:
CNN reported that because McMaster is currently active duty he cannot turn down this job offer from his Commander in Chief. Anyone know if that is the case?
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Although it may technically be true (I actually don't know), I'm quite confident he had a choice in the matter. Why would Trump, or anyone else, make someone serve as National Security Adviser?

EDIT: Wanted to add that although some pinhead may have said it on air, it's certainly not in their online article about the pick (he typed as he listened to an apparent night arty drill at Camp Geiger).
 
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Blessedmom said:
Feb is the 75 anniversary of Japanese-Americans who were rounded up & sent to internment camps.
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Question: And which Republican president signed that order? Answer: None-it was FDR.
 
Wishful said:
Question: And which Republican president signed that order? Answer: None-it was FDR.
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Question: And which Democrat was the only Member of Congress to vote against the Declaration of Waron Japan? Answer: None-it was Jeannette Rankin (R) Montana.
 
cb7893 said:
Question: And which Democrat was the only Member of Congress to vote against the Declaration of Waron Japan? Answer: None-it was Jeannette Rankin (R) Montana.
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Then I expect more compassion & tolerance from the Party of Lincoln:)
 
cb7893 said:
Question: And which Democrat was the only Member of Congress to vote against the Declaration of War on Japan? Answer: None-it was Jeannette Rankin (R) Montana.
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Jeannette Rankin, (R) Montana, a lifelong Pacifist, who voted against going into WWI (along with 55 other male MOC) as well. Involved in the suffrage movement helping women in Montana get the right to vote as well as the 19th Amendment. Said, (after the WWII vote mentioned,) "As a woman I can't go to war, and I refuse to send anyone else." she further stated, "I want to be remembered as the only woman who ever voted to give women the right to vote." Seems like a Congresswoman of principles who "walked the walk." I have no problem with that or with her. BTW: It was President Reagan who signed the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 which authorized reparations for those Americans interned.
 
Wishful said:
Jeannette Rankin, (R) Montana, a lifelong Pacifist, who voted against going into WWI (along with 55 other male MOC) as well. Involved in the suffrage movement helping women in Montana get the right to vote as well as the 19th Amendment. Said, (after the WWII vote mentioned,) "As a woman I can't go to war, and I refuse to send anyone else." she further stated, "I want to be remembered as the only woman who ever voted to give women the right to vote." Seems like a Congresswoman of principles who "walked the walk." I have no problem with that or with her. BTW: It was President Reagan who signed the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 which authorized reparations for those Americans interned.
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Reparation is a good start to an acknowledgement & apology, but to be honest $20,00o a person would not be enough for me? Many lost their properties, livelihood, dignity, and suffered major depression. Majority of the Japanese people are stoic & will not speak out. Maybe this is why most Americans do not know much about this topic.
 
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Blessedmom said:
Reparation is a good start of acknowledgement & apology, but to be honest $20,00o a person would not be enough for me? Many lost their properties, livelihood, dignity, and suffered major depression. Majority of the Japanese people are stoic & will not speak out. Maybe this is why most Americans do not know much about this topic.
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Most were rounded up and not allowed to gather all of their belongings and then had their properties taken over by whites. The action was a travesty for a nation like ours, and most likely unnecessary since it was based on people being scared of someone who looked different and no actual acts.
 
5Day: it reinforced my opinion of Bill Clinton (and interestingly, gave me an early glimpse of Hillary's character).
 
Jcleppe said:
I miss that Yacht, had the pleasure of being aboard a few times for shake down and maintenance cruises. President Ford did come on board a couple times but we never left the dock, his daughter took it out a couple times. The Coast Guard ran the Yacht and it was beautiful but old and required a lot of maintenance. You're right, the Secret Service did not like the prospect of the president on the yacht, it was difficult to keep secure from shore as it moved along the river. We had chase boats that were well armed but keeping the land secure on each side of the river was a nightmare. I loved being aboard, there was a lot of history on that old boat. Thanks for bringing up some fond memories.
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Ahhh...the USS Sequoia, steaming serenely on the Potomac with the presidential guests enjoying a Manhattan and playing Gin Rummy...how quaint...

Now we get "Big Sean" playing a birthday gig in the White House....
 
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