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SpaceisAboveAll

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I am curious how many people receive the presidential nomination. I know that only 100 candidates can receive appointment from the presidential nom, but how large is the pool? Do slots sometimes go unfilled or do hundreds of candidates receive the nom and not get an appointment? I have looked but not really found any information on the amount of candidates who receive a presidential nomination.
 
I probably can't give you a solid number on how many actually receive it, but here's what I know:

Anyone that is eligible for the Presidential Nomination and applies for it receives it.

I've heard approximately 400-700 candidates receive a presidential nomination in any given year.

Hope this helps!
 
That is what I was looking for. If all 100 appointments are given out the odds are slightly better than a moc nom.
 
SpaceisAboveAll said:
That is what I was looking for. If all 100 appointments are given out the odds are slightly better than a moc nom.
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Depends on the district. Remember that this is not a lottery, it is about scores/qualifications and the applicant pool for Presidentials is not necessarily an easy one. As for easier odds? Some congressional districts give fewer than 10 noms because they have fewer than 10 APPLICANTS. My local district is very competitive. . . for USNA and USMA with 20 to 30 applicants for each inmost years but this year there were less than 10 applicants for USAFA.
 
SpaceisAboveAll said:
That is what I was looking for. If all 100 appointments are given out the odds are slightly better than a moc nom.
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Why would you say that? Unless you live in a reallllly competitive district your representative would be a better pick. For example 5 slots for 22 people applying. That was my district this year in IL. Compared to 100/700 which is 1/7
 
I should have explained myself better. I have both a congressional and presidential nomination. My discritict is not too competitive, so you are right I might be more likely to get an appointment from my congressional nomination. I was just think in pure theory. In reality I understand that it so much more complicated: some applicants who receive a presidential nomination will be appointed with a congressional nomination, in both pools candidates do not finish their application or fail some portion, candidates who apply for a presidential nomination might be more qualified and competitive than those who apply for a congressional nomination. The only thing I can do is hope that USAFA wants me and will find a spot for me. My question was to get an idea of how competitive a presidential nomination is and around 700 people looking for 100 slots is somewhat similar to 10 people looking for 1 slot, ignoring complicating factors.
 
Bottom line is that a MOC can nominate up to 10.

The number of Presidential nominations is unlimited, but tend to fall in the 400 to 700 range. It’s just another nomination route.

You can’t game it, just apply for all of the nominations you are eligible for.
 
FlyFalcon said:
Why would you say that? Unless you live in a reallllly competitive district your representative would be a better pick. For example 5 slots for 22 people applying. That was my district this year in IL. Compared to 100/700 which is 1/7
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I've never seen a district with 5 slots. How does that even happen?
 
OldRetSWO said:
I've never seen a district with 5 slots. How does that even happen?
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Let’s assume a MOC refuses to nominate. And then gets beat. The new MOC could have five open slots.

I realize that’s theoretical and never happened.

When I originally read that post, I assumed he meant his district had five appointees (and not slots).

I’m interested in the answer.
 
A1Janitor said:
Let’s assume a MOC refuses to nominate. And then gets beat. The new MOC could have five open slots.

I realize that’s theoretical and never happened.

When I originally read that post, I assumed he meant his district had five appointees (and not slots).

I’m interested in the answer.
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The SAs do not let all five get stacked into one year because there would be none for three years. This is why when someone separates before graduation, their "slot" is generally not filled until their class graduates.
 
OldRetSWO said:
The SAs do not let all five get stacked into one year because there would be none for three years. This is why when someone separates before graduation, their "slot" is generally not filled until their class graduates.
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Makes sense. I can’t think of any way to have five slots then.
 
A1Janitor said:
Let’s assume a MOC refuses to nominate. And then gets beat. The new MOC could have five open slots.

I realize that’s theoretical and never happened.

When I originally read that post, I assumed he meant his district had five appointees (and not slots).

I’m interested in the answer.
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If a MOC decided not to nominate, that's their right (we speak with their staff, have USAFA do the same, we try to convince them otherwise)...so no nominations that year. Then they are defeated in their reelection and a new individual sits in that chair. They do not get five brand new nom's. Their district might have three in the academy, therefore they'd have two open slots.

Now, that being said, you don't see many MOC's (House or Senate) nominating for more than one slot per cycle. That's to ensure they always have a slot open. That changes with the actions of the appointees. We had a senator I worked with that had three kids leave in the same year (two resigned and one graduated) which left him with three openings. We convinced him to only nominate for two; keep that third available for the next year, as he'd graduate one...always have an opening. Can you imagine the pain if you wanted to apply and found out your MOC hadn't "budgeted" properly and couldn't nominate this year...or for two years?

It's a constant budgeting process.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
SpaceisAboveAll said:
I am curious how many people receive the presidential nomination. I know that only 100 candidates can receive appointment from the presidential nom, but how large is the pool? Do slots sometimes go unfilled or do hundreds of candidates receive the nom and not get an appointment? I have looked but not really found any information on the amount of candidates who receive a presidential nomination.
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I have just received a nomination from a MOC, and was wondering where this places me. I don’t know what kind of ranking system their office uses but now that I have a nomination do I just have to fit the bill of what the academy wants or could I still not receive an appointment just because there are others ranked above me?
 
Ment one slot with 5 people who could possibly fill that slot.
 
MI Congressional District 06 has 2 slots available. They are nominating 5 against the 2 slots.
 
It’s a thing. Just call the staff at the MOC office and ask. How many for academy xxx were nominated (many times it’s a press releasse). Often the staff does not realize it’s 5 slots at each academy, Ask if it’s 1 or 2 slots this year for academy xxx.
 
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