Prez/VP Nominations

crymsonwynters

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I am currently wrapping up the process of applying for nominations. I am applying to USAFA and USNA. However, a couple things seem to be evading me. I need a little help understanding how to apply for Presidential and Vice Presidential nominations.

As I currently understand,

To apply for the Presidential:
  • Print, fill out, and mail the forms (with appropriate documentation) provided by USAFA's and USNA's admissions websites to the respective addresses on the forms. The end.
To apply for the Vice Presidential:
  • Go to the Nominations page on whitehouse.gov, fill out the online form, and send any letters of recommendation directly to the Academies.
Given the complexity of all of the other steps of the application process (MOC nominations, PCQs, data records, etc.), these seem a little too simple. I don't think I'm missing anything, but I don't want to risk it.

Could y'all help confirm these? (Also, how many letters of rec should I send to the Academies for the VP?)

Thanks
 
Yes they are pretty simple. And the letters that the VP nom is referring to are ones already (or will be) sent with your application package to the SA. Not additional ones.
 
Yes they are pretty simple. And the letters that the VP nom is referring to are ones already (or will be) sent with your application package to the SA. Not additional ones.
@justdoit19 does the applicant need to be a child of military personnel to apply for President? For some reason I though that's what was needed for a Presidential one.
 
It would say on the application. I’m not an expert at all, none of my kids qualified. But they did apply for VP nom, and I, too was surprised at the simplicity of it.
 
Yes they are pretty simple. And the letters that the VP nom is referring to are ones already (or will be) sent with your application package to the SA. Not additional ones.
@justdoit19 does the applicant need to be a child of military personnel to apply for President? For some reason I though that's what was needed for a Presidential one.

Yes, Presidential Nominations are reserved for children of career military personnel. My dad is currently 24 Years Active Duty in the Air Force.
 
In addition to children of current AD members (Enlisted of Officer), children of 100% disabled veterans, military retired (Enlisted or Officer), or Active Reserves with the requisite number of retirement points are also considered under Presidential Noms. And keep in mind that usually there are no more than 65 appointees at a given academy at a given time. So even with the Presidential NOM, you still need to be extremely competitive.
 
In addition to children of current AD members (Enlisted of Officer), children of 100% disabled veterans, military retired (Enlisted or Officer), or Active Reserves with the requisite number of retirement points are also considered under Presidential Noms. And keep in mind that usually there are no more than 65 appointees at a given academy at a given time. So even with the Presidential NOM, you still need to be extremely competitive.
The number 65 is not correct, it is 100 per year for Presidential nominees of children of career military (Active/Reserve/Retired). The disabled, etc is a separate category with a number of 65
 
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@OldRetSWO, Thanks for the clarification, I am guessing looking at Title 10, that AD, Retired, and Reserves are different completely from Disabled Veterans children. DS was advised by his USNA Admissions Officer that only 65 children of disabled or missing vets are statutorily mandated to be appointed and once they hit that number of Mids then they need another nomination. Title 10 USC Section 8454 (a)(1) specifically states the numbers. With a total enrollment not to exceed 4400 currently.

(a) The authorized strength of the Brigade of Midshipmen (determined for any year as of the day before the last day of the academic year) is 4,400 or such lower number as may be prescribed by the Secretary of the Navy under subsection (h). Subject to that limitation, midshipmen are selected as follows:
(1) 65 selected in order of merit as established by competitive examination from children of members of the armed forces who were killed in action or died of, or have a service-connected disability rated at not less than 100 per centum resulting from, wounds or injuries received or diseases contracted in, or preexisting injury or disease aggravated by, active service, children of members who are in a “missing status” as defined in section 551(2) of title 37, and children of civilian employees who are in “missing status” as defined in section 5561(5) of title 5. The determination of the Department of Veterans Affairs as to service connection of the cause of death or disability, and the percentage at which the disability is rated, is binding upon the Secretary of the Navy.
(2) Five nominated at large by the Vice President or, if there is no Vice President, by the President pro tempore of the Senate
(3) Ten from each State, five of whom are nominated by each Senator from that State.
(4) Five nominated by each representative in Congress
(5) Five from the District of Columbia, nominated by the Delegate to the House of Representatives from the District of Columbia
(6) Five from the Virgin Islands, nominated by the Delegate in Congress from the Virgin islands
(7) Six from Puerto Rico, five of whom are nominated by the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico and one who is a native of Puerto Rico nominated by the Governor of Puerto Rico.
(8) Four from Guam, nominated by the Delegate in Congress from Guam
(9) Three from American Samoa, nominated by the Delegate in Congress from American Samoa.
(10) Three from the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, nominated by the Delegate in Congress from the Commonwealth.
(b) Deals with Children of AD, Retired, and Reserve Presidential noms, and I think that is where the 100 comes from, but it is different than the 65 from children of Disabled Veterans.
(1) one hundred selected by the President from the children of members of the armed forces who:
(A) are on AD and have served continously for 8 years
(B) Are, or who died while they were retired with pay.
(C) are serving as members of reserve components and are credited with at least 8 years of service computed under section 12733 of this Title
(D) would be, or who died while they would have been, entitled to retired pay

(2) 85 Nominated by the Secretary of the Navy from current enlisted members of the Navy and Marine Corps
(3) 85 nominated by the Secretary of the Navy from current enlisted members of the Navy and Marine Corps
(4) 20 nominated by the Secretary of the Navy under regulations prescribed by him, from the honor graduates of schools designated as honor schools by the Department of the Navy, Department of the Navy, or Department of the Air Force, and from members of the Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps (NROTC)
(5) 150 selected by the Secretary of the Navy in order of merit from qualified alternates nominated by Representatives and Senators.
 
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