Principal MOC Nominations

The point is, the "competition" stopped for my D/S when he was awarded a Principal MOC Nom. The remaining candidates are all potential teammates.

Unless USMA Admissions screws up and grants too many LOAs or something to honor all the primary noms which I believe is what happened to USNA ahen they could no longer honor primary noms. It ain't over 'till its over. But you gotta do what you think best.
 
Dear 3rdGen,
Congratulations on your son receiving the PRINCIPAL (first in order of importance;main) Nomination, because this is a really wonderful honor.
My son (current C1C- to graduate in June 2016) also received our congressman's Principal Nomination. The people on this forum were so encouraging and helpful in advising my son, because, at first he was not admitted due to his knee injury. However, thanks to a great deal of helpful advice and multiple letters written to DODMERB by his orthopedic surgeon, he received his official appointment on 3/2/2012. Usually the Principal Nominee is assured of a spot...assuming they pass the scholastic, physical, DODMERB, and leadership requirements. The academy can reject a nominee if the academy deems that this candidate does not meet their requirements. However, I would say, based on your son's stats, it is a pretty safe bet that he will receive his appointment. CONGRATULATIONS to him! It is such a great school, and will be a great experience- even with the challenges. My son is still thankful for having been a Principal Nominee and grateful to be attending USAFA. Your son and your entire family will have a great journey ahead!
 
Batmom. Not hijacking the thread, but I can't believe your son is getting ready to graduate already. Then again; I can't believe mine and Fencermother's boys have been out of the academy for going on 4 years and will be captains in 5 month. Time goes by fast, and I'm getting old. Congrats.
 
The point is, the "competition" stopped for my D/S when he was awarded a Principal MOC Nom. The remaining candidates are all potential teammates.
Oh the competition most certainly has not stopped. They will be in competition with each other for class rank, wing positions, CSLIP, Semester abroad, Wings of Blue, rated slots, non-rated job slots etc... throughout their Academy years. And after they graduate the REAL competitions begin such as UPT, promotions and on and on... They ARE on the same team but don't ever think they are not competing as they will do that throughout their entire careers.

The hard fact of the matter is that one person's victory is always another person's loss. You don't need to gloat in victory but you should NEVER be ashamed of it or let up because someone might lose. That is life and they better get used to it.

Play the game fair but play to win. And until he has a paper that says he HAS an appointment, the game is still going on.
 
Just to clarify. Minimum qualification is all that's needed should an individual have a principle nomination. I bring this up, because the discretion being mentioned, such as captain of the football team or other leadership type attributes, are the things that separate the "BEST" vs the other qualified candidates. Of the 2500-5000 qualified candidates, of which 1200+/- will receive an appointment, an applicant can be the #5000 qualified individual; if you have a principle nomination, the academy must give you the appointment. They have absolutely "NO CHOICE" in the matter. If a principle nominee doesn't get the appointment, it's because they are NOT qualified. Either academically, medically, or physically. All the other attributes that make an individual "COMPETITIVE" against all other qualified candidates, don't come into play. Not for a "Principal" nominee. This is not to say that you don't have to have any leadership qualities; simply stating again, if you don't receive an appointment with a Principal, then you won't receive an appointment at all. Because the academy deems you disqualified.

For those interested, out of the 1200 +/- appointees, approximately 500-550 are directly selected from the MOC's nomination slates. There are 435 representatives and 100 senators. MOST have on average 1 slate of 10 names each year. Sometimes a MOC as 2 available slates. Sometimes they have no available slates. "There's laws on how many appointees, based off of their slates, can be at the academy at one time". It's complicated and I won't get into it right now, but for the sake of argument, let's just say all 535 MOC have one slate of 10 names this year. BY LAW, the academy MUST, select and give one appointment from each of those 535 slates; assuming at least one person on each slate is qualified. Right there, is approximately 535 appointments. These are appointments that the academy has very little say so in appointing. I say little, because most MOC's simply provide the academy with a list of ten, and the academy gets to choose which one of the 10 to give an appointment to. Some, give a list listing a Principle nominee. In this case, assuming the individual is qualified, EVEN AT THE BARE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS; the academy MUST give that individual the appointment. This is federal law. Not the academy's rules or choice.

Personally, I prefer the "Principle" (Ranked) method of MOC's providing their slate to the academy. It means the MOC is taking a more active roll in the process. The balance to this of course, is that after those 535 appointments, the academy still has close to 700 appointments left to give out, and they, (The academy), have complete control over who those 700 appointments go to. The majority will be those on the MOC's lists who didn't get one of the 535 mandatory appointments. Some will be from Presidential and other military related nomination slates.

But to reiterate; a principle nominee, receiving an appointment from the academy (Assuming they are qualified); only need to meet the minimum qualifications. Things such as leadership points, captain of this, volunteer of that, etc. are used to make an applicant more competitive. Most people don't realize that the 3.86 gpa average; the 30 ACT score average; etc. of appointees, are WAY ABOVE the minimum standards. If the Principle nominee has a 25 ACT, they meet the minimum test score. As long as they are qualified academically, pass their medical exam, and pass their CFA; they will receive an appointment if given a Principle nomination. So; if an individual with a Principle nomination, DOESN'T RECEIVE and appointment, then it's because they are disqualified, and they aren't going to receive an appointment under any circumstance.
I have a question about the minimum ACT. I have a 26 composite with a 28 math and 33 science, but my reading is a 22. On the portal it says <22>** may not be competitive to USAFA. If I receive a Principle nomination, would I be considered academically qualified assuming all of my other stats are great, or would I need to bring that 22 up? Thank you
 
If your academics, meaning gpa and test scores aren't qualifying, then no, a principal nomination will not help you.

And for what it's worth, only a small percentage of representatives and senators use the principal or ranked method of nominations. Most simply give a list of ten names to the academy and say, pick one. So never bet on that.
 
I will end this thread with the news that my son received his letter of Appointment last week !

Thank you particularly to Christcorp for his clarity on the issue of Principal Nominations and other process insights.

One Academy, one Application. One interview. One singular purpose.

One thankful DS.
 
From what I've read and interpreted, each nominating source can choose how they want to present their nominees to the Academies. They can choose to present an even slate or they can choose a primary nominee and alternates. However, I don't believe the Academies have an obligation to choose the primary. I could be completely wrong as this is all new to us as well. I would say to you and your DS, as I would say to my own, that although it sounds promising, it's not over until its over and nothing is guaranteed and he should leave no stone unturned. Keep pushing until there's nothing left to push! Good luck!
 
Just to clarify, if the Mocs choose to use the ranked method, and lists a principal (not called primary), then unless that individual isn't qualified, the academy must choose that person.

And to expound, there's 3 methods of presenting a slate to the academy. In normal English, 1) a simple list of 10 names. No priority. The academy chooses who they want. 2) a ranked slate in order 1-10. The first is the principal and the academy must take them if qualified. If not qualified, the academy is to go down the list with the second name being next. 3) a combination of the first two. A principal as the first name which the academy must take if qualified. The second through tenth aren't ranked. If the first principal isn't qualified, the academy can choose any of the remaining nine.
 
I will end this thread with the news that my son received his letter of Appointment last week !

Thank you particularly to Christcorp for his clarity on the issue of Principal Nominations and other process insights.

One Academy, one Application. One interview. One singular purpose.

One thankful DS.
Congratulations!
 
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