Question about 3Q status

[WestCoastRefugee]

I know that USNA does not tell you if you are fully qualified or not, but wondering if I made it past 4/15 last year (turn down was a couple of days after that, and also should add that I did not have any nominations) is it safe to assume I was fully qualified, but just didn’t get in? Or is it that admissions finally got around to canning me and I had been dead for weeks/months? The reason I ask is that although my grades are going to be pretty good, no luck in getting my SAT score up from where it was in HS. Between my course load, athletics, and getting up every day at 0450 I am kinda reaching my limit. I just don’t really have much left in the tank to try to fight this SAT battle. I know there is no way to know for sure, I guess just looking for advice/feedback on if this issue with my SAT’s not improving is going to sink my ship, especially since it’s possible that I will only have a ROTC nom in hand. If it’s possible that I wasn’t 3Q last year, don’t see the case to keep grinding over this, and just focus on a side load.

 

[Heatherg21]

I don't think anyone here can definitively answer your question. However, in my personal opinion, excelling in plebe like courses, as USNA recommends re-applicants do, is likely more important than a standardized test. Again, caveat is this is my opinion. If this is the path you want, keep trudging on, make them tell you no. Pursue all nominations you are eligible for.

 

[IronmanDaremo]

As a college re-applicant, it is my opinion that it is your actual performance IN college that holds way more weight than a standardized test that attempts to predict how you will DO in college.

Oh, and I also feel you would not have made it to the great culling if you weren't 3Q.

 

[Old Navy BGO]

First, if you made it to 4/15 -- it is probably pretty safe to surmise that you were 3Q. They don't let BGO's know if you are Admissions Board qualified any longer, but having watched for years before, the standard for being "Qualified" for Admissions is not that high. The real question then becomes how competitive you are - obviously the better the SAT/ACT, the more competitive you are, but as a reapplicant, you have something the other first time applicants don't. Bottom line, focus on what you can control , submit the best application you can, and wait patiently.

 

[PlebeNoMore27]

I know that USNA does not tell you if you are fully qualified or not, but wondering if I made it past 4/15 last year (turn down was a couple of days after that, and also should add that I did not have any nominations) is it safe to assume I was fully qualified, but just didn’t get in? Or is it that admissions finally got around to canning me and I had been dead for weeks/months? The reason I ask is that although my grades are going to be pretty good, no luck in getting my SAT score up from where it was in HS. Between my course load, athletics, and getting up every day at 0450 I am kinda reaching my limit. I just don’t really have much left in the tank to try to fight this SAT battle. I know there is no way to know for sure, I guess just looking for advice/feedback on if this issue with my SAT’s not improving is going to sink my ship, especially since it’s possible that I will only have a ROTC nom in hand. If it’s possible that I wasn’t 3Q last year, don’t see the case to keep grinding over this, and just focus on a side load.

Hey dude, good to hear from you again (for real). What you are describing is A LOT like what happens here after you get here: it is an absolute f'in slog. (Sometimes, not always.) Even the gung-ho oorahs have mornings they wake up at 0450 for an 0500 PT call going "Daaaaaaang, I can't believe I'm still here, where's my fairy godmother" and wanting to hit that snooze button sooo haarrrd. When I saw your post this weekend I thought, dude this is practice for USNA. And not making fun of you or minimizing the slog, either. Just that this is the way it is "supposed" to be. You gotta keep going if you know the yuck of giving in would be worse than the yum of laying in a nice warm rack until 0600 (or 0900 for you civvies out there, haha!). And keep reminding yourself, it ain't personal, it's supposed to be hard, it's supposed to be really hard, and other normal mortals have slogged through it too.

As a practical note, I did WAY better on the ACT than the SAT. Have you tried the ACT? Not sure if there's even time to register so scores get to USNA before 31 Jan, but I thought I'd mention it.

 

[WestCoastRefugee]

Hey dude, good to hear from you again (for real). What you are describing is A LOT like what happens here after you get here: it is an absolute f'in slog. (Sometimes, not always.) Even the gung-ho oorahs have mornings they wake up at 0450 for an 0500 PT call going "Daaaaaaang, I can't believe I'm still here, where's my fairy godmother" and wanting to hit that snooze button sooo haarrrd. When I saw your post this weekend I thought, dude this is practice for USNA. And not making fun of you or minimizing the slog, either. Just that this is the way it is "supposed" to be. You gotta keep going if you know the yuck of giving in would be worse than the yum of laying in a nice warm rack until 0600 (or 0900 for you civvies out there, haha!). And keep reminding yourself, it ain't personal, it's supposed to be hard, it's supposed to be really hard, and other normal mortals have slogged through it too.

As a practical note, I did WAY better on the ACT than the SAT. Have you tried the ACT? Not sure if there's even time to register so scores get to USNA before 31 Jan, but I thought I'd mention it.

Thanks for that. I'm pretty cool with the mornings it's not a new thing for me (practice wake up was sometimes even earlier) and I am Marine Option so it's going to be how it is regardless if I get into Annapolis or not. It's just everything on top of that 0450 wake up. I know it's tough, and it's supposed to be that way but I get to the weekends when I have time to study for SAT's and I am just absolutely smoked by then...literally like sleep sitting straight up in a car seat smoked, jaw open and drooling. This is not a throw in the towel type moment, it's just that my grades are going to have to speak for me, and the test scores are what they are.

 

[PlebeNoMore27]

...I get to the weekends when I have time to study for SAT's and I am just absolutely smoked by then...literally like sleep sitting straight up in a car seat smoked, jaw open and drooling. ....

Totally feel you brother. Sounds to me like you've done everything you can. Maybe think about the ACT, otherwise keep your energy for crushing the PFT and your grades. Hang onto your mates, too.