Random Observations from a Plebe parent

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Sharing a few observations/opinions/suggestions as a newbie Kings Point parent after watching these last few months unfold...

-Identify your weaknesses as an outsider now, and whatever they are, work to improve or negate the issues prior to entering the start of Indoc. If you
need to improve any academics, get extra help at home and continue the tutoring right up until you say your good-byes in July. If you need to gain weight, lose weight, run, improve your pushup numbers, don't sleep, etc etc, fix the issues at home as best as you can. As perplexing as it is, the KP environment will quickly identify any issues it deems unsuitable to a future KP grad and then press you on them and keep pressing until you alter or do whatever it is you need to do to adjust to the KP standard. And I"m not necessarily referring to actual people who will do this. It's just the Kings Point environment itself that will do this to you. You either make the necessary corrections in a suitable amount of time or if not, you'll likely be setback or going home for good. This is the hard to swallow reality pill.

-Have a plan B in place before you arrive to Indoc. It may seem awful to think in this vein but we have witnessed many going through the setbacks and these are strong students who could not make it at KP. If you are setback academically, where will you take those remedial classes should you decide to return in a few months? Enroll now in your local CC just in case you find yourself in that situation so that you're not scrambling to then determine a plan B.

-Get help early in your KP classes, get help early in your KP classes, get help early in your KP classes or you may likely use that Plan B.

-Consider taking a gap year. A general trend at least from my short observations is that the older aged students tend to fare a little better than those entering KP at a younger age. A 19 year old versus a 17 year old, for example. There's potentially a huge difference in maturity, study skills, whatever and that discrepancy tends to translate with the better outcomes leaning more towards an older age student. Not the rule, just my own two cents.

-The Prep Schools can be very helpful in surviving and ultimately thriving at Kings Point so consider taking that prep year if admissions advises such.

Best of luck to the applicants and parents. It's a crazy but cool ride:)
 
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-Consider taking a gap year.
The Prep Schools can be very helpful in surviving and ultimately thriving at Kings Point so consider taking that prep year
Great post.
Admissions would rather see you Self Prepping at NMMI (for example) or a community college, than taking a "Gap" year.
 
Sharing a few observations/opinions/suggestions as a newbie Kings Point parent after watching these last few months unfold...

-Identify your weaknesses as an outsider now, and whatever they are, work to improve or negate the issues prior to entering the start of Indoc. If you
need to improve any academics, get extra help at home and continue the tutoring right up until you say your good-byes in July. If you need to gain weight, lose weight, run, improve your pushup numbers, don't sleep, etc etc, fix the issues at home as best as you can. As perplexing as it is, the KP environment will quickly identify any issues it deems unsuitable to a future KP grad and then press you on them and keep pressing until you alter or do whatever it is you need to do to adjust to the KP standard. And I"m not necessarily referring to actual people who will do this. It's just the Kings Point environment itself that will do this to you. You either make the necessary corrections in a suitable amount of time or if not, you'll likely be setback or going home for good. This is the hard to swallow reality pill.

-Have a plan B in place before you arrive to Indoc. It may seem awful to think in this vein but we have witnessed many going through the setbacks and these are strong students who could not make it at KP. If you are setback academically, where will you take those remedial classes should you decide to return in a few months? Enroll now in your local CC just in case you find yourself in that situation so that you're not scrambling to then determine a plan B.

-Get help early in your KP classes, get help early in your KP classes, get help early in your KP classes or you may likely use that Plan B.

-Consider taking a gap year. A general trend at least from my short observations is that the older aged students tend to fare a little better than those entering KP at a younger age. A 19 year old versus a 17 year old, for example. There's potentially a huge difference in maturity, study skills, whatever and that discrepancy tends to translate with the better outcomes leaning more towards an older age student. Not the rule, just my own two cents.

-The Prep Schools can be very helpful in surviving and ultimately thriving at Kings Point so consider taking that prep year if admissions advises such.

Best of luck to the applicants and parents. It's a crazy but cool ride:)
I would echo all of these things and add:

1. Moms and dads be ready for a proud but sad day...I went to WP was paratrooper straight out of high school...but when had to say goodbye to my DS that day...wow, it was tough.

2. Buy the kits and the tech bundles...don't try to get all of that stuff together.

3. Bone up on Chem, Calc, and Physics...the class of 2025 lost about 25% already and from what I understand it was mostly academic. I would just be honest with myself...do I go to a high school that is rigorous and has great science and math academics. If not, then I would find a community college teacher or a private tutor and do a couple hours a week heading into indoc.

4. Enjoy the journey...if you are close enough...road trip up and make stops that your DS/DD will enjoy. We did that and it was a great trip.

5. As a cadet at WP...I relied on my $100 per month stipend and my parents couldn't send me really any money. It was awful to be honest, but it was no fault of my parents...I really didn't ask either (bullheaded). If you can swing it, setup a Navy Credit Union Acct and put some money in it for them each month. When they get a chance to finally get off of post...things in NYC are not cheap. But, they need to get away and experience the city and that area.

6. Cookie Cafe...I won't lie...I thought at first this was a little lame...but we participated and you get to drop a small package in for your DD/DS when you contribute. The Mids love it and its a chance for you to reach out and have contact with your kid. Every touch matters...especially positive ones. The Cookie Cafe is awesome and a great morale booster for you and them.

7. Grades...your DD/DS probably has made A's their entire life. They likely won't at KP. Big deal...who cares...it's about surviving and advancing this first year and really the entire time at KP. No one is going to ask your kid their GPA while at KP...they are going to know that your kid is special for graduating from a service academy. So...support them...don't beat them down if they make a C in Terra Nav...say congrats! You passed. Now on to the next challenge.

8. Be a great classmate...help your fellow mids out...there is a saying...cooperate and graduate. Help out when you can...be a great teammate.

9. Be competitive...you will be competing your entire time at KP. I made some parents mad when I stoked those competitive fires on Indoc +1 (maybe a little early)...but make no mistake they will be competing against each other early and often and throughout. Get used to it.

10. Write letters to them every day and before they leave for Indoc...they mean everything. Im not talking long heartfelt letters, but you can. I sent my son a funny meme, a funny article or local article of interest, a stoic quote, and 3 or 4 sentence note everyday during Indoc. Once they have their phones back, you can text...but don't wear them out with texts...they are busy.

11. Deal dash, Uber, and other similar gift cards make great presents for birthdays and Christmas.

Probably more things, but you'll figure it out. Don't think about making it through Indoc...think about making it through PT, then making it to breakfast, and then making it to lunch, and then making it to dinner, and finally making it to lights out...then, do it all over again. Before you know it Indoc will be over and your plebe will say...that was the easiest thing I went through all year.
 
I would echo all of these things and add:

1. Moms and dads be ready for a proud but sad day...I went to WP was paratrooper straight out of high school...but when had to say goodbye to my DS that day...wow, it was tough.

2. Buy the kits and the tech bundles...don't try to get all of that stuff together.

3. Bone up on Chem, Calc, and Physics...the class of 2025 lost about 25% already and from what I understand it was mostly academic. I would just be honest with myself...do I go to a high school that is rigorous and has great science and math academics. If not, then I would find a community college teacher or a private tutor and do a couple hours a week heading into indoc.

4. Enjoy the journey...if you are close enough...road trip up and make stops that your DS/DD will enjoy. We did that and it was a great trip.

5. As a cadet at WP...I relied on my $100 per month stipend and my parents couldn't send me really any money. It was awful to be honest, but it was no fault of my parents...I really didn't ask either (bullheaded). If you can swing it, setup a Navy Credit Union Acct and put some money in it for them each month. When they get a chance to finally get off of post...things in NYC are not cheap. But, they need to get away and experience the city and that area.

6. Cookie Cafe...I won't lie...I thought at first this was a little lame...but we participated and you get to drop a small package in for your DD/DS when you contribute. The Mids love it and its a chance for you to reach out and have contact with your kid. Every touch matters...especially positive ones. The Cookie Cafe is awesome and a great morale booster for you and them.

7. Grades...your DD/DS probably has made A's their entire life. They likely won't at KP. Big deal...who cares...it's about surviving and advancing this first year and really the entire time at KP. No one is going to ask your kid their GPA while at KP...they are going to know that your kid is special for graduating from a service academy. So...support them...don't beat them down if they make a C in Terra Nav...say congrats! You passed. Now on to the next challenge.

8. Be a great classmate...help your fellow mids out...there is a saying...cooperate and graduate. Help out when you can...be a great teammate.

9. Be competitive...you will be competing your entire time at KP. I made some parents mad when I stoked those competitive fires on Indoc +1 (maybe a little early)...but make no mistake they will be competing against each other early and often and throughout. Get used to it.

10. Write letters to them every day and before they leave for Indoc...they mean everything. Im not talking long heartfelt letters, but you can. I sent my son a funny meme, a funny article or local article of interest, a stoic quote, and 3 or 4 sentence note everyday during Indoc. Once they have their phones back, you can text...but don't wear them out with texts...they are busy.

11. Deal dash, Uber, and other similar gift cards make great presents for birthdays and Christmas.

Probably more things, but you'll figure it out. Don't think about making it through Indoc...think about making it through PT, then making it to breakfast, and then making it to lunch, and then making it to dinner, and finally making it to lights out...then, do it all over again. Before you know it Indoc will be over and your plebe will say...that was the easiest thing I went through all year.
You want us to cry, don't you?? 🤣🤣🤣 Excellent post, thank you so much. Especially the ideas for the letters. I am not that good at them.
 
I second everything airbornedaddy said above, but want to put a double exclamation point on what I refer to as the March Madness attitude - that is, survive and advance. Over the past two years I have had that exact talk with my DS on multiple occasions when he expressed the feeling that he maybe was not doing good enough. KP places a lot of pressure on the Midshipmen and they put a lot of pressure on themselves. Do what you can to help relieve some of it....or at least try not to add to it. Just my 2 cents.
 
7. Grades...your DD/DS probably has made A's their entire life. They likely won't at KP. Big deal...who cares...it's about surviving and advancing this first year and really the entire time at KP. No one is going to ask your kid their GPA while at KP...they are going to know that your kid is special for graduating from a service academy. So...support them...don't beat them down if they make a C in Terra Nav...say congrats! You passed. Now on to the next challenge.
I second everything airbornedaddy said above, but want to put a double exclamation point on what I refer to as the March Madness attitude - that is, survive and advance. Over the past two years I have had that exact talk with my DS on multiple occasions when he expressed the feeling that he maybe was not doing good enough. KP places a lot of pressure on the Midshipmen and they put a lot of pressure on themselves. Do what you can to help relieve some of it....or at least try not to add to it. Just my 2 cents.
The Coast Guard can put a lot of stuff on a license, but your school GPA isn't one of them.. Learn the material, pass the classes and move on.. or as my kid used to say '2.0 and go'..
 
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