Re-Applicant Process

gonavy27

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Hi! I'm currently a college re-applicant for the USNA Class of 2027 and I've been told that the re-applicants go through a different review process than direct applicants. Does anyone know what about the re-applicant process is different? I submitted my second application back in January but I didn't notice much that was different from my first application out of high school besides submitting college transcripts. Are re-applicants reviewed separately from direct applicants? Additionally, I was told that re-applicants' applications aren't reviewed until the end of January. If I received a nomination from my Representative and his nomination slots were all used up by direct applicants who were reviewed/were offered an appointment in the fall, how does this effect re-applicants who also received a nomination from him? Does this mean that they have no available nomination slots left to get an appointment? Any insight is greatly appreciated, thank you!
 
Who’s your source on these various tips? Unless it was an admissions officer or a BGO I’d take everything with a grain of salt and defer to publicly available official sources, i.e. usna.edu/admissions. I was a Reapplicant “back in my day” and they required my fall semester transcript, which didn’t come in until late Dec or so, so January would have been when my application was complete. This is expected. As for the nominations, I don’t believe you are at any disadvantage for having to wait until January to finalize your app.
 
Who’s your source on these various tips? Unless it was an admissions officer or a BGO I’d take everything with a grain of salt and defer to publicly available official sources, i.e. usna.edu/admissions. I was a Reapplicant “back in my day” and they required my fall semester transcript, which didn’t come in until late Dec or so, so January would have been when my application was complete. This is expected. As for the nominations, I don’t believe you are at any disadvantage for having to wait until January to finalize your app.
I was told by a BGO that the re-applicant process is slightly different than the direct applicant process. They didn't really specify how so I was just wondering if anyone had any knowledge of how it was different. Also thank you for the information regarding the timeline of submitting the application.

My college transcripts weren't received until mid-February though because my college wasn't able to send my transcripts directly to USNA electronically. They still allowed my application to be reviewed even though my transcripts arrived in mid-February. Does the fact my transcripts were received almost 2 weeks after the application deadline effect anything?
 
I was told by a BGO that the re-applicant process is slightly different than the direct applicant process. They didn't really specify how so I was just wondering if anyone had any knowledge of how it was different. Also thank you for the information regarding the timeline of submitting the application.

My college transcripts weren't received until mid-February though because my college wasn't able to send my transcripts directly to USNA electronically. They still allowed my application to be reviewed even though my transcripts arrived in mid-February. Does the fact my transcripts were received almost 2 weeks after the application deadline effect anything?
The admissions office is very good at their job and they give themselves until April to release decisions for a reason. As long as they are tracking that an extenuating circumstance led to the transcripts coming in late, I’d expect you’ll get a fair look just like anyone else. You’ve done all that you can, now you sit back and wait.
 
The admissions office is very good at their job and they give themselves until April to release decisions for a reason. As long as they are tracking that an extenuating circumstance led to the transcripts coming in late, I’d expect you’ll get a fair look just like anyone else. You’ve done all that you can, now you sit back and wait.
Ok thank you!
 
One of the major differences is that USNA will not consider a reapplicant or college applicant until first semester grades are in.

You are conflating an offer of an appointment with charging. Many candidates have multiple noms (e.g., Senator, Rep, President, ROTC, etc.). There is also the National Pool (slotted to SecNav). So, USNA can offer that person an appointment and later figure out the source to whom that candidate should be charged. For example, I had a nom from my rep and a Pres. Once at USNA, I learned I was charged to the President.

I wouldn't worry about a direct appointee "taking up a slot" that should go to you. If USNA want sto offer you an appointment, they will. Years ago, I had a first-time college applicant who applied too late to secure a nom. Ended up getting a Supe's nom. It all works out in the end.
 
One of the major differences is that USNA will not consider a reapplicant or college applicant until first semester grades are in.

You are conflating an offer of an appointment with charging. Many candidates have multiple noms (e.g., Senator, Rep, President, ROTC, etc.). There is also the National Pool (slotted to SecNav). So, USNA can offer that person an appointment and later figure out the source to whom that candidate should be charged. For example, I had a nom from my rep and a Pres. Once at USNA, I learned I was charged to the President.

I wouldn't worry about a direct appointee "taking up a slot" that should go to you. If USNA want sto offer you an appointment, they will. Years ago, I had a first-time college applicant who applied too late to secure a nom. Ended up getting a Supe's nom. It all works out in the end.
Thank you for this information!
 
Just curious, is there anyway to find out how an appointment is charged or is it insider information?
 
Just curious, is there anyway to find out how an appointment is charged or is it insider information?
It can be requested eventually. Right now they are moving around. Example… maybe a slate has a Principle Nom. That person doesn’t clear medical waivers or goes to USMA. Maybe someone who had a Presidential Nom and was on the slate for their MOC gets moved. Then they could move someone to a Presidential and on from there. It keeps moving all the time until the class is locked. It’s why they have the wait list… as it becomes more firm; waivers clear or don’t, accept other appts, someone gets cold feet, the yield settles out, they pull from that list
 
It can be requested eventually. Right now they are moving around. Example… maybe a slate has a Principle Nom. That person doesn’t clear medical waivers or goes to USMA. Maybe someone who had a Presidential Nom and was on the slate for their MOC gets moved. Then they could move someone to a Presidential and on from there. It keeps moving all the time until the class is locked. It’s why they have the wait list… as it becomes more firm; waivers clear or don’t, accept other appts, someone gets cold feet, the yield settles out, they pull from that list
Thanks for the update. From what I have learned in about 2 mos on this forum is there is no rhyme or reason to the madness.
 
Thanks for the update. From what I have learned in about 2 mos on this forum is there is no rhyme or reason to the madness.
That is not exactly true. There may be no rhyme or reason THAT YOU CAN SEE but Admissions has a definite goal to pull together the best possible class so they do move folks between their possible slots so as to get the most great candidates that they can into the class.
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The eventual slot that a particular mid fills is listed in their individual admissions file. I don't know if midshipman are allowed to see those
files and actually I doubt that they can as there can be protected information (like teacher comments) in the files. I do know that as an
alumnus, I was able to view my admissions file when I found out that I could request it but that was 25 or so years after graduation.
 
That is not exactly true. There may be no rhyme or reason THAT YOU CAN SEE but Admissions has a definite goal to pull together the best possible class so they do move folks between their possible slots so as to get the most great candidates that they can into the class.
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The eventual slot that a particular mid fills is listed in their individual admissions file. I don't know if midshipman are allowed to see those
files and actually I doubt that they can as there can be protected information (like teacher comments) in the files. I do know that as an
alumnus, I was able to view my admissions file when I found out that I could request it but that was 25 or so years after graduation.
Yes, agree. No rhyme or reason to us outsiders looking in. o_O
 
That is not exactly true. There may be no rhyme or reason THAT YOU CAN SEE but Admissions has a definite goal to pull together the best possible class so they do move folks between their possible slots so as to get the most great candidates that they can into the class.
.
The eventual slot that a particular mid fills is listed in their individual admissions file. I don't know if midshipman are allowed to see those
files and actually I doubt that they can as there can be protected information (like teacher comments) in the files. I do know that as an
alumnus, I was able to view my admissions file when I found out that I could request it but that was 25 or so years after graduation.
How did you request that? I’d be curious to look at mine as well.
 
My DS is a college reapplicant in the NROTC program this year as a 4/C. Though I don't pretend to have any inside knowledge, the only difference he was made aware of is the way the college first semester grading and class schedule was weighted in the application process. Colleges in general and USNA in particular want to select candidates that will be successful. SAT, GPA, and class rank numbers are used by schools as a proxy measurement for likelihood to succeed at the undergraduate level. In addition USNA looks at the whole person with extra-curriculars, DODMERB and CFA being very important factors.

However, now that the college re-applicant has had a chance to attend a semester of college, the academy no longer needs to use a proxy measurement. They can use actual results. This re-applicant has had a semester to live on their own (wild card), experience the rigor of a plebe-like class load (assuming they take a similar schedule), and in the case of NROTC, show military aptitude(or not). This is direct and measurable data rather than an indirect proxy, so is weighted much higher than success in high school.

I'm on the outside trying to decode the process, so take all of that with a large grain of salt.
 
Portal just moved from "Complete Pending" to "Turned Down". So going to go with option B which is Marine-NROTC. Definitely want to reapply again next year. I was reading that it is possible for a contracted NROTC student to switch from Marine to Navy. Would it be more advantageous o apply from the navy side for USNA reapply? Also should I consider switching my Tier 3 Marine major to a tier 1or 2 to be more competitive for USNA?
 
Portal just moved from "Complete Pending" to "Turned Down". So going to go with option B which is Marine-NROTC. Definitely want to reapply again next year. I was reading that it is possible for a contracted NROTC student to switch from Marine to Navy. Would it be more advantageous o apply from the navy side for USNA reapply? Also should I consider switching my Tier 3 Marine major to a tier 1or 2 to be more competitive for USNA?
My DS got this notice today as well, I don't know if it helps ease any disappointment...but you weren't the only one! Sounds like you have a great option with Marine-NROTC though! Congratulations on that!
 
Portal just moved from "Complete Pending" to "Turned Down". So going to go with option B which is Marine-NROTC. Definitely want to reapply again next year. I was reading that it is possible for a contracted NROTC student to switch from Marine to Navy. Would it be more advantageous o apply from the navy side for USNA reapply? Also should I consider switching my Tier 3 Marine major to a tier 1or 2 to be more competitive for USNA?
I had a friend who re-applied as a Marine option for the NROTC scholarship and they received an appointment to USNA after they reapplied. I don't think USNA cares whether or not it's Navy or Marine option. Being in NROTC shows that you have an interest in serving the the military as an officer so either way it looks good. Pursue whichever option you can see yourself commissioning in to.

As for your major, it's easier to switch to a Tier 1 or 2 major from a Tier 3 major so if you see a major that interests you in Tier 1 or 2 I say go for it. But don't switch majors just because you think that it will look good for when you reapply. Choose a major that interests you and as long as you take a plebe-like schedule filled with Calc, Chem and/or Physics during your freshman year you should be fine.

If it makes you feel any better I was in your shoes around this time last year. I received a 4-year NROTC scholarship in March and was turned down from USNA in mid April and I'm currently reapplying. Congrats on your scholarship, it's something you should be very proud of, and good luck!
 
Portal just moved from "Complete Pending" to "Turned Down". So going to go with option B which is Marine-NROTC. Definitely want to reapply again next year. I was reading that it is possible for a contracted NROTC student to switch from Marine to Navy. Would it be more advantageous o apply from the navy side for USNA reapply? Also should I consider switching my Tier 3 Marine major to a tier 1or 2 to be more competitive for USNA?
Pertaining to the major, I don't think it matters. I major in international studies at my current university which is similar to political science and still received an appointment. As gonavy27 said, what matters is taking those plebe-like classes and excelling in them. You can do that in a tier 1, 2, or 3 major.

Sorry to hear you were turned down. Stay strong with your plan B and good luck.
 
If you are asking in regards to getting an NROTC nom, then the same PNS for Navy and Marines at your unit would be the one to put that in. So, no reason to change.

If you are asking in general, take an Academy-like Freshman year (Calc, Chem, English, etc.) and knock them out of the park. Perform well in your unit, get your name out there, and shoot for as much leadership as you can.
 
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