reapplication/nominations query

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adoloris

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I have a question but will give some background first; My oldest son just got the dreaded TWE. He attended NASS and USCGA AIM, attends a college prep HS with an A GPA, varsity/academic letterman, team captain, yadda yadda yadda. You get the picture. He received nominations from both senators and our Rep. Even his BGO was surprised that he didn't receive an appt. He did speak to his admissions officer to find out what he was lacking which was very helpful. Anyway, does anyone know how difficult it is to obtain a second nomination from your MOC? Also, I have another son who is a candidate for the SA's--two of my sons(I have 4) will be competing against each other for nominations. Anyone have this problem?What are the odds of each of them receiving at least one nomination? Thanks
 
I don't have personal experience but I've heard that receiving a second nom is not a problem. Your son should be upfront about his "weaknesses" and how he has corrected them. The fact he's so determined that he's applying again is typically a plus.

In terms of son vs. son competition -- a couple of thoughts. It partly depends on whether your MOCs do principal noms and competitive alternates or just list 10 noms. All in all, the latter may be better. However, if one of your sons is the principal nominee in the former . . . better for him. I don't THINK that having siblings is a real issue . . . there are numerous instances of twins both receiving appointments.

This year was super-comptetitive, with over 15k applications for 1230 slots. No idea what next year will be like. I had a candidate who applied to USNA in her third year of college. She will soon be a 1/C and has done EXTREMELY well. So, it's almost never too late.
 
thanks usna 1985 for your response. I finally got in touch with his BGO who basically said the same thing. He said that it shouldn't be a problem for son #1 or #2 to receive their renom or nom respectively. Son #1 is very upfront about his weakness--which was his ACT compostite.He is taking measures to improve his score. Thanks again
 
adoloris said:
I have a question but will give some background first; My oldest son just got the dreaded TWE. He attended NASS and USCGA AIM, attends a college prep HS with an A GPA, varsity/academic letterman, team captain, yadda yadda yadda. You get the picture. He received nominations from both senators and our Rep. Even his BGO was surprised that he didn't receive an appt. He did speak to his admissions officer to find out what he was lacking which was very helpful. Anyway, does anyone know how difficult it is to obtain a second nomination from your MOC? Also, I have another son who is a candidate for the SA's--two of my sons(I have 4) will be competing against each other for nominations. Anyone have this problem?What are the odds of each of them receiving at least one nomination? Thanks
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I know it can be done because I have identical twin boys who got an appointment to USNA for the Class of 2013. They each got their nomination from the same nominating source and received LOA's.

I don't visit this forum very often but I remember several months ago somebody else mentioned that he had a set of twins who got LOAs (which I assume led to an appointment).

So, apparently, it can be done. How common it is - I don't know. I sincerely doubt that the academy is biased toward admitting siblings. They probably evaluate them separately, as if they were two completely unrelated candidates.

I graduated in the Class of 79 and my class had a set of identical twins.
 
Son #1 is very upfront about his weakness--which was his ACT compostite.He is taking measures to improve his score
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ACTs/SATs are only predictors (in the view of some, including USNA) of the ability to succeed in college-level courses. Once he's in college, taking the "plebe courses" and doing well in them is more important than improving his score. If he gets As and Bs in Calc, Chem, English, and History at college, he's proven his ability to do it.

Also, as you may know, candidates applying from college (whether reapplying or not) are typically not evaluated until first semester grades are in. So your two sons will likely be on different time schedules in terms of their applications.
 
I would try taking the SAT, many do better on one or the other (mine strength was the ACT and I didn't do as well on the SAT).
 
They may also want to consider other SA's since USNA had so many applications this year. I believe that the same stats will occur next year. GOOD LUCK
 
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