Refigured GPA

Fritz3180

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Does anything on the USAFA Portal change when they refigure your GPA? My GPA has been the same on the portal since October and it still says "(Your GPA listed may be refigured by USAFA and may not match the GPA reported by your school.)" Does this mean that they have not yet refigured it, or is it just the same as the reported one?
 

Sneak

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The same thing happened for me. My GPA has been the same since I sent my transcript in September. I thought for sure that they would refigure my GPA since my school uses a 5.0 scale. My theory is that they just agreed that the weighted GPA from our schools is accurate.
 

dol-amroth

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I may be wrong, but I believe that the GPA shown on the portal is the one that the Academy uses. If yours hasn't changed, then I believe it means that the Academy holds your submitted GPA to be accurate. I don't completely know, but I believe that the GPA reconfiguring is mostly just converting it to a 5.0 scale, if your school only uses a 4.0 and doesn't account for Honors, AP, and IB courses.
 

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I may be wrong, but I believe that the GPA shown on the portal is the one that the Academy uses. If yours hasn't changed, then I believe it means that the Academy holds your submitted GPA to be accurate. I don't completely know, but I believe that the GPA reconfiguring is mostly just converting it to a 5.0 scale, if your school only uses a 4.0 and doesn't account for Honors, AP, and IB courses.
DD's school does not weight for honors or AP, uses a 4.0 scale and her GPA showing on portal has not been reconfigured.
 

Christcorp

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Don't put too much concern into the gpa listed. Yes, the academy does re-figures it as necessary, but it may not show up on your portal reconfigured.

My son was in the IB program. All of his classes were IB. The IB program was the most advanced classes in our school. (They also had AP and Honor's classes). My son had a 4.0 gpa all 4 years of high school. (Our school has high school 9-12th grade). The school doesn't weight grades at all. The only thing they weight internally is class rank. E.g. my son was ranked #1 in the class, even though there were some others who also were 4.0 gpa. They didn't take the IB program or AP classes. On his portal, it showed a 4.0 gpa.

So don't worry about what you see on the portal. It washes out in the end on your application when your final score for everything is figured in; such as CFA, Leadership, EC, ACT/SAT, sports, etc.. And NO, you can't see what your final score is, so don't ask.
 

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Don't put too much concern into the gpa listed. Yes, the academy does re-figures it as necessary, but it may not show up on your portal reconfigured.

My son was in the IB program. All of his classes were IB. The IB program was the most advanced classes in our school. (They also had AP and Honor's classes). My son had a 4.0 gpa all 4 years of high school. (Our school has high school 9-12th grade). The school doesn't weight grades at all. The only thing they weight internally is class rank. E.g. my son was ranked #1 in the class, even though there were some others who also were 4.0 gpa. They didn't take the IB program or AP classes. On his portal, it showed a 4.0 gpa.

So don't worry about what you see on the portal. It washes out in the end on your application when your final score for everything is figured in; such as CFA, Leadership, EC, ACT/SAT, sports, etc.. And NO, you can't see what your final score is, so don't ask.
Thanks for the explanation! Trying not to stress the details too much but this is a tough process to maneuver. DD was shocked how "easy" her plan B applications were in comparison.
 

Christcorp

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Thanks for the explanation! Trying not to stress the details too much but this is a tough process to maneuver. DD was shocked how "easy" her plan B applications were in comparison.

Not dogging any plan-B schools; (My son applied to quite a few); but most of them simply care about one thing. (YOUR MONEY). Even with scholarships, grants, etc. the school still makes it's money. And if you're from out of state, the schools want you even more. (Along with your money). When you look at the average freshman class size of many schools, and realize how large they are compared to a military academy, you realize that it's a lot easier to apply and get accepted to these traditional schools. To get into the small number accepted at the military academies, you'd have to compare to some smaller elite school. Like loyola marymount. And even they have an undergrad population of about 6,000. Some large schools; like Ohio State, and their incoming freshman class size is around 7600. That's almost twice the size of the entire air force academy. Their entire undergrad population is around 45,000 students. There's some very competitive schools out their to apply to; but if you want to know the most difficult 10 college applications, (According to college magazine); they are:

# 10 at top - #1 at the bottom
  • University of Michigan
  • University of Notre Dame
  • Amherst College. ...
  • Brown University. ...
  • Tufts University. ...
  • California Institute of Technology. ...
  • Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ...
  • University of Chicago. ...
  • Princeton University. ...
  • Stanford University. wikimedia.org.
 
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Anyone apply to Harvard since it's not in the top 10 most difficult colleges to get into? jk

According to USAFA candidate handbook, "Adjustments are made to the PAR for students attending unusually competitive schools with a rigorous college prep curriculum, and/or where honors, Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate courses are NOT weighted in the school’s calculation of class rank and/or GPA."

How does USAFA know when the H, AP, IB courses are not weighted in a schools GPA/class rank? If taking all AP and IB courses is not rigorous college prep curriculum, what are they referring to?
 

Christcorp

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That's why your school must send in a school profile. It says how the classes are graded, weighted, class rank, how many kids go to college and why types, etc. They know.
 

fearthegoat17

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Not dogging any plan-B schools; (My son applied to quite a few); but most of them simply care about one thing. (YOUR MONEY). Even with scholarships, grants, etc. the school still makes it's money. And if you're from out of state, the schools want you even more. (Along with your money). When you look at the average freshman class size of many schools, and realize how large they are compared to a military academy, you realize that it's a lot easier to apply and get accepted to these traditional schools. To get into the small number accepted at the military academies, you'd have to compare to some smaller elite school. Like loyola marymount. And even they have an undergrad population of about 6,000. Some large schools; like Ohio State, and their incoming freshman class size is around 7600. That's almost twice the size of the entire air force academy. Their entire undergrad population is around 45,000 students. There's some very competitive schools out their to apply to; but if you want to know the most difficult 10 college applications, (According to college magazine); they are:

# 10 at top - #1 at the bottom
  • University of Michigan
  • University of Notre Dame
  • Amherst College. ...
  • Brown University. ...
  • Tufts University. ...
  • California Institute of Technology. ...
  • Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ...
  • University of Chicago. ...
  • Princeton University. ...
  • Stanford University. wikimedia.org.
I don't know If I read that correctly, but Loyola Marymount is by no means an "elite" school.
 

dol-amroth

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A bit of a follow-up question, but does anyone know if they refigure your GPA after they get your 7th semester grades?
 
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