Rejected from USNA: My Life 2 Years Later

amjrivers

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DISCLAIMER: The opinions I am expressing are my own and do not reflect the opinions of UNC Naval ROTC, the Navy/Marine Corps, etc. My intention IS NOT to disparage the Naval Academy, nor is it to convince anybody to decide one way or another. The purpose of this post is to share MY personal testimony, in hopes that somebody might learn from it.


Almost two years ago, I was in the same place as many of the students who are currently applying to the Naval Academy. Constantly checking my emails, I feared my decision would never come. Finally, on March 29th, 2017, I received my rejection notification. I was crushed, and I did not want to UNC, my backup school. My intense disappointment did not last long, as I remembered all of the good memories I had as a child visiting Chapel Hill and realized that I would be able to have other opportunities that the Naval Academy could not provide. Not so secretly, if given the chance I would have gone to the Naval Academy in a heartbeat right up until the first day of new student orientation for NROTC. Over a year later, I couldn’t be happier with how things turned out. I am still just as excited about my future Navy career and I am enjoying everything that Chapel Hill, UNC, and NROTC has to offer.

As we enter the time during which most appointments are given out, I encourage everyone considering the Naval Academy to also consider ROTC. Too often, applicants to the Naval Academy either believe that they will get in and look down on ROTC or have no idea what ROTC is. For example, my best friend is desperately trying to earn a scholarship so that he can commission when he graduates. He, too, applied to the Naval Academy believing that he would get in and did not. Many of my friends who also applied to the academy but did not apply for the ROTC scholarship have since dropped the program for various reasons. At the heart of nearly all of their decisions have been their belief (or the reality) that they would not get a scholarship. I hope that nobody ever has this experience ever again.

I will conclude my testimony, as any self-respecting Tar Heel should, with the best possible endorsement I can give the school I have grown to know and love. I began my college experience thinking I would end up in cybersecurity. I liked computers and programming but I did not love it, as I would later find out. I am now a Russian major and am well on my way to becoming fluent, something I did not think I would ever do. I could go on about how I discovered a passion for Photoshop through my group of friends, or how I have learned how to use a 3D printer and a laser cutter. As those who know me well know, I cannot talk about my college life without talking about my job working in a kitchen at a sorority house. All of these things have made me into the person I am today and I am incredibly thankful for each and every moment that I have had at UNC.

If you have any questions about the decision process between the Naval Academy and NROTC, ROTC life, UNC Chapel Hill, the LREC program, or the NROTC scholarship application, feel free to PM me and I will help you in any way I can.

Once again, I wish all of those who are still waiting good luck and I congratulate those who have already gotten appointments. To those of you who weren’t so lucky, keep your head up and don’t give up on a career in the Navy. There are plenty of ways to get to where you want to go. It’s up to you to decide which path you take.
 
@amjrivers I have a couple of questions about NROTC. If you go in as a non-scholarship mid, do you have to earn the scholarship by graduation in order to get a commission? Also, how hard is it to get a scholarship if you go in as a non-scholarship mid.

Thank you for taking the time to write about your own thoughts regarding NROTC. No matter if you go to USNA, do NROTC, go through OTS, or enlist in the Navy you will still have the common goal of defending the nation and making everyone around you better. You sound like a hard working person who will definitely succeed as an officer in the Navy.
 
DISCLAIMER: The opinions I am expressing are my own and do not reflect the opinions of UNC Naval ROTC, the Navy/Marine Corps, etc. My intention IS NOT to disparage the Naval Academy, nor is it to convince anybody to decide one way or another. The purpose of this post is to share MY personal testimony, in hopes that somebody might learn from it.


Almost two years ago, I was in the same place as many of the students who are currently applying to the Naval Academy. Constantly checking my emails, I feared my decision would never come. Finally, on March 29th, 2017, I received my rejection notification. I was crushed, and I did not want to UNC, my backup school. My intense disappointment did not last long, as I remembered all of the good memories I had as a child visiting Chapel Hill and realized that I would be able to have other opportunities that the Naval Academy could not provide. Not so secretly, if given the chance I would have gone to the Naval Academy in a heartbeat right up until the first day of new student orientation for NROTC. Over a year later, I couldn’t be happier with how things turned out. I am still just as excited about my future Navy career and I am enjoying everything that Chapel Hill, UNC, and NROTC has to offer.

As we enter the time during which most appointments are given out, I encourage everyone considering the Naval Academy to also consider ROTC. Too often, applicants to the Naval Academy either believe that they will get in and look down on ROTC or have no idea what ROTC is. For example, my best friend is desperately trying to earn a scholarship so that he can commission when he graduates. He, too, applied to the Naval Academy believing that he would get in and did not. Many of my friends who also applied to the academy but did not apply for the ROTC scholarship have since dropped the program for various reasons. At the heart of nearly all of their decisions have been their belief (or the reality) that they would not get a scholarship. I hope that nobody ever has this experience ever again.

I will conclude my testimony, as any self-respecting Tar Heel should, with the best possible endorsement I can give the school I have grown to know and love. I began my college experience thinking I would end up in cybersecurity. I liked computers and programming but I did not love it, as I would later find out. I am now a Russian major and am well on my way to becoming fluent, something I did not think I would ever do. I could go on about how I discovered a passion for Photoshop through my group of friends, or how I have learned how to use a 3D printer and a laser cutter. As those who know me well know, I cannot talk about my college life without talking about my job working in a kitchen at a sorority house. All of these things have made me into the person I am today and I am incredibly thankful for each and every moment that I have had at UNC.

If you have any questions about the decision process between the Naval Academy and NROTC, ROTC life, UNC Chapel Hill, the LREC program, or the NROTC scholarship application, feel free to PM me and I will help you in any way I can.

Once again, I wish all of those who are still waiting good luck and I congratulate those who have already gotten appointments. To those of you who weren’t so lucky, keep your head up and don’t give up on a career in the Navy. There are plenty of ways to get to where you want to go. It’s up to you to decide which path you take.

As a mom of DD CPR for the USNA I am so excited to read this post! She did receive NROTC scholarship and will take any path that leads to a commission!
She is still waiting for acceptance to UNC. Equally as nervous being an out of state applicant!
Thank you for your post. I can't wait to share this with her.
 
As the veterans of this site remind "crushed" applicants and families every year, there are many paths to service and to success in life. USNA (or any SA) is only one. It's easy to be bitter; it's more productive to realize that another school really wanted you and can't wait for you to join them.

There's an old saying that remains true: “When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us." [Courtesy of Alexander Graham Bell]

The OP embraced the open window -- and how wonderful it turned out to be!!
 
@amjrivers I have a couple of questions about NROTC. If you go in as a non-scholarship mid, do you have to earn the scholarship by graduation in order to get a commission? Also, how hard is it to get a scholarship if you go in as a non-scholarship mid.

Thank you for taking the time to write about your own thoughts regarding NROTC. No matter if you go to USNA, do NROTC, go through OTS, or enlist in the Navy you will still have the common goal of defending the nation and making everyone around you better. You sound like a hard working person who will definitely succeed as an officer in the Navy.

You do have to earn a scholarship by graduation in order to commission. Fortunately, there are many different opportunities to earn a scholarship while you are in ROTC. As of right now, the Navy has 4, 3, and 2 year scholarships. There is also something known as Advanced Standing where the Navy will pay you a stipend for your last year of college and you will earn a commission upon graduation. This past year, the Navy came out with a special nuclear scholarship where you have to pass a nuclear officer interview in order to be considered for the scholarship. If you get the scholarship, the Navy will start paying for you that semester. In theory, you could earn as much as 3.5 years of tuition (I am not sure if you can apply for this scholarship out of high school or if they will pay you back for your first semester). The caveat to this is that you have to commit to being a nuclear officer (either a submarine officer or SWO(N)).

The chances of you getting a scholarship from the program can be quite high. The biggest thing is having a good GPA. If you can maintain at least a 3.0, you will probably get the scholarship. Every scholarship has a minimum GPA of 2.5 to apply. BE CAREFUL WHEN REGISTERING FOR CLASSES. Challenge yourself but don't overload yourself. It's better to have too easy of a schedule and a high GPA than the other way around.
 
My DS is really starting to focus on what it will be like with an NROTC scholarship at one of his selected schools and does not even talk about USNA anymore (doesn’t check portal, doesn’t talk about plebe summer etc.). Might partly be his way of coping with the uncertainty but I also think he is embracing the idea of “normal college”. He has two older brothers who both are graduating this May (MS and BS) and they are encouraging him to go to normal college. A family friend who went to AFA has been telling him to seriously think about the ROTC route. This past weekend, we were visiting DW’s HS friend in DC and she told our DS about her son who was appointed to USNA but DQed in the spring of senior year when he lost eye sight in one eye in a freak wrestling accident (my DS wrestles) and never looked back at his loss.

Part of the situation is that he gets a lot of feedback from his colleges and not a thing from USNA. He understands it is still early but I suspect he is in the process of moving on. Last week, he received a call from the dean of admissions at one college offering him entrance to their honors program. He is taking about accepting their offer. We are encouraging him to keep his options open. He applied to NROTC fora good reason - it is not a conciliation prize.
 
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You do have to earn a scholarship by graduation in order to commission. Fortunately, there are many different opportunities to earn a scholarship while you are in ROTC. As of right now, the Navy has 4, 3, and 2 year scholarships. There is also something known as Advanced Standing where the Navy will pay you a stipend for your last year of college and you will earn a commission upon graduation.
Not quite correct. One doesn't have to win a scholarship but must be awarded advanced standing by a national board the summer between sophomore and junior years. Some might consider advanced standing a scholarship, since you do get the stipend, but Navy doesn't. There are at least 4 additional opportunities to win a scholarship through sophomore year.
 
DS did Maritme and was Comissioned on USNS Constitution and is now Naval Reserve Officer and Merchant Marine on USNS in Saipan. He tried twice with nominations but did not make it. He took another way. There are many ways and he did get a scholarship. Fair Winds and Following Seas
 
DS did Maritme and was Comissioned on USNS Constitution and is now Naval Reserve Officer and Merchant Marine on USNS in Saipan. He tried twice with nominations but did not make it. He took another way. There are many ways and he did get a scholarship. Fair Winds and Following Seas

@AF6872 Forgive me, but out of pride in the oldest commissioned warship, world-wide, still serving, launched in 1794, USS CONSTITUTION is still a living ship with an active commission and active duty crew, though her underway periods are understandably symbolic for the old gal.

USNS is United States Naval Ship, not a commissioned vessel, but owned by the US Navy to serve various DON and DOD sealift missions, and is crewed by DON civil service mariners or is contract operated by Maersk or others.

One of my coolest collateral duties was to be the reporting senior for the CO, USS CONSTITUTION, and I got to visit her many times. Her nickname “Old Ironsides” was a testament to her oak build and strength. If anyone visits Boston, please go and pay her your respects.

How very special to be commissioned aboard her!

Ok, back to this most excellent thread topic.
 
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I wonder if DS remembers our trip to Boston when he was 4. We did visit the USS Constitution. I’ll have to ask him about it.
 
DISCLAIMER: The opinions I am expressing are my own and do not reflect the opinions of UNC Naval ROTC, the Navy/Marine Corps, etc. My intention IS NOT to disparage the Naval Academy, nor is it to convince anybody to decide one way or another. The purpose of this post is to share MY personal testimony, in hopes that somebody might learn from it.


Almost two years ago, I was in the same place as many of the students who are currently applying to the Naval Academy. Constantly checking my emails, I feared my decision would never come. Finally, on March 29th, 2017, I received my rejection notification. I was crushed, and I did not want to UNC, my backup school. My intense disappointment did not last long, as I remembered all of the good memories I had as a child visiting Chapel Hill and realized that I would be able to have other opportunities that the Naval Academy could not provide. Not so secretly, if given the chance I would have gone to the Naval Academy in a heartbeat right up until the first day of new student orientation for NROTC. Over a year later, I couldn’t be happier with how things turned out. I am still just as excited about my future Navy career and I am enjoying everything that Chapel Hill, UNC, and NROTC has to offer.

As we enter the time during which most appointments are given out, I encourage everyone considering the Naval Academy to also consider ROTC. Too often, applicants to the Naval Academy either believe that they will get in and look down on ROTC or have no idea what ROTC is. For example, my best friend is desperately trying to earn a scholarship so that he can commission when he graduates. He, too, applied to the Naval Academy believing that he would get in and did not. Many of my friends who also applied to the academy but did not apply for the ROTC scholarship have since dropped the program for various reasons. At the heart of nearly all of their decisions have been their belief (or the reality) that they would not get a scholarship. I hope that nobody ever has this experience ever again.

I will conclude my testimony, as any self-respecting Tar Heel should, with the best possible endorsement I can give the school I have grown to know and love. I began my college experience thinking I would end up in cybersecurity. I liked computers and programming but I did not love it, as I would later find out. I am now a Russian major and am well on my way to becoming fluent, something I did not think I would ever do. I could go on about how I discovered a passion for Photoshop through my group of friends, or how I have learned how to use a 3D printer and a laser cutter. As those who know me well know, I cannot talk about my college life without talking about my job working in a kitchen at a sorority house. All of these things have made me into the person I am today and I am incredibly thankful for each and every moment that I have had at UNC.

If you have any questions about the decision process between the Naval Academy and NROTC, ROTC life, UNC Chapel Hill, the LREC program, or the NROTC scholarship application, feel free to PM me and I will help you in any way I can.

Once again, I wish all of those who are still waiting good luck and I congratulate those who have already gotten appointments. To those of you who weren’t so lucky, keep your head up and don’t give up on a career in the Navy. There are plenty of ways to get to where you want to go. It’s up to you to decide which path you take.
Awesome! Thank you for taking the time to offer such a wonderful message. The academy missed a good one, but not the Navy, not your family and friends, not UNC, and not the country. What an inspiration you are. Thank you, again.
 
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