I agree, and the USC spouse will be much "hotter"
Rejection from USNA 2022
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I agree, and the USC spouse will be much "hotter"
Ex.BT.USN
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Our DD was not selected; however, she remains quite happy. She New she was a long shot and it became more and more of a surprise as each day passed that she did not hear sooner.
She remains on the same path with the NROTC tier 3 scholarship.
48 more days until her brother commissions. I will remain on the board as a member in an effort to give some guidance, insight and feedback to whoever might need it.
She remains on the same path with the NROTC tier 3 scholarship.
48 more days until her brother commissions. I will remain on the board as a member in an effort to give some guidance, insight and feedback to whoever might need it.
Aina Haina
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Thanks for all of your insight. I have always been able to glean so much from your posts.
NavyLady64
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She's gonna do great, dad! And congrats on DS commissioning!
Thats absolutely true. California USC has very good looking people
I too was rejected from the USNA class of 2022 last week. I was truly devastated, and have never wanted or worked for anything harder in my entire life. I got the "this is where I'm meant to be" feeling on my CVW, made several friends that I have stayed in contact with, and truly believed I would get in. My BGO said she was really surprised that someone with my statistics and application was rejected. I will be accepting my appointment to USCGA, but will reapply for the class of 2023. Personally, I believe I am more inclined to the Navy's mission and will keep trying to make my dream come true. Best of luck to everyone.
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I'm sorry to hear about your disappointment. I felt the same way last year. If you came close this year you definitely have a good shot at successfully re-applying. However you might have to choose between going that route, or attending USCGA. There's a recent thread on applying to one service academy while attending another, and the consensus was that academies won't "poach" students from each other, even for the most outstanding candidates. Just something to think about. If you or anyone else has any questions about what it's like re-applying, feel free to PM me.
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Please see Kierkegaard’s note above. It would be highly unlikely to reapply successfully to USNA from another SA. I don’t think it’s written down anywhere, but it’s one of those things.
I know this is tough news. What was your original Plan B? If you are truly focused on serving in the Navy, I assume you applied to civilian colleges and NROTC programs. If you look at the appointment threads from this year and years past, there are successful re-applicants every year. They put their head down, followed the advice on USNA.edu for re-applicants, and their perseverance paid off. And, some had a year of Navy training under their belts through ROTC. If you are not successful in getting into USNA again, there you are on a perfectly good path toward a degree and naval officer commission.
You should only go to USCGA if you fully embrace that path and are open to serving in the CG. It’s a fine path but likely not to lead you to Navy blue.
Right before I hit this thread I read another one where a mom had just posted about her daughter wanting USNA, did not get it, went to USAFA because they felt they couldn’t turn down a SA appointment of any flavor, was not happy, left, but is now happy in NROTC at a civilian college. She knew in her heart she wanted to serve as a Navy officer.
Take a bit of time to grieve, but think this through with heart and mind. What do you want to be after you get your degree? Then take direct steps toward that path.
People do change their minds and “unaccept” appointments. That’s why SAs always offer more appointments.
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usna1985
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Fully agree with MJ on all points.
First, your chances of being appointed to USNA while a cadet at USCGA are virtually zero, if not zero.
Second, do NOT attend USCGA if you don't really want to be there. USCGA is a terrific school and USCG a terrific service. However, as with every SA and service, it's not for everyone. I know several candidates who attended a SA other than USNA when their first choice was clearly USNA. Not one was happy and most were downright miserable. (Ditto for attending USNA if another SA is your dream.).
Third, if you really want USNA, consider attending a civilian school and reapplying. You need not do NROTC but may want to do it, even if not on scholarship.
Fourth, consider why you felt USNA was right for you and (presumably) USCGA was not -- or was not as right for you. Was it the school itself? The different missions of the services? Something you want to do out of USNA that you can't do out of USCGA? Such contemplation might help you focus your thoughts on what to do.
Fifth, if possible, talk to current or recently former USCGA officers and/or cadets. Share your thoughts above and see what they say. They will want you to attend USCGA only if it's right for you (something all SA grads have in common) so may be able to help you in terms of your doubts, concerns, etc.
Best of luck!
First, your chances of being appointed to USNA while a cadet at USCGA are virtually zero, if not zero.
Second, do NOT attend USCGA if you don't really want to be there. USCGA is a terrific school and USCG a terrific service. However, as with every SA and service, it's not for everyone. I know several candidates who attended a SA other than USNA when their first choice was clearly USNA. Not one was happy and most were downright miserable. (Ditto for attending USNA if another SA is your dream.).
Third, if you really want USNA, consider attending a civilian school and reapplying. You need not do NROTC but may want to do it, even if not on scholarship.
Fourth, consider why you felt USNA was right for you and (presumably) USCGA was not -- or was not as right for you. Was it the school itself? The different missions of the services? Something you want to do out of USNA that you can't do out of USCGA? Such contemplation might help you focus your thoughts on what to do.
Fifth, if possible, talk to current or recently former USCGA officers and/or cadets. Share your thoughts above and see what they say. They will want you to attend USCGA only if it's right for you (something all SA grads have in common) so may be able to help you in terms of your doubts, concerns, etc.
Best of luck!
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I won't repeat what USNA1985 has said as he captured my sentiments perfectly. However, I do want to offer myself as a resource should you wish to share your thoughts and/or would like additional perspective on the USCG & USCGA. I am a 2014 graduate with a BS in Government. I completed my first tour underway (predominantly in the Eastern Pacific and Caribbean) and am heading into the last year of second tour.
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If you want to collide with other ships, USNA isn’t the only route. CGA will give you that opportunity too, possibly with the benefit of a reinforced hull!
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Or... a very thin hull, but I’d recommend the reinforced option...
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There is always being trained on how to be a "torpedo sponge" at USMMA! We are in the process of working with the US Navy on how to not hit ships with ships...only with missiles!
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Keep in mind that individual BGO's don't see all the candidates --one can have great tickets, but if another candidate has better tickets in a given year, they get the Appointment. That's the nature of the competitive process.
I echo the comments about attending USCGA with intent to reapply. It won't work. That being said, you shouldn't consider USCG a consolation prize. It's certainly different, in size and location, and I suspect education options, but its a great school and there are great opportunities in the Coast Guard. If your heart is set on serving in the Navy ....take a look at the sticky above about reapplying. On the other hand, if you like the idea of a smaller school and USCG , hold your head up high and go.
Finally, as an aside -- maybe one of the the USCG types can comment, but it used to be possible to cross commission between the services.
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On cross commissioning: I researched this option as a 2/c cadet as I went through a "is this service really for me?" stage. The Coast Guard is the only branch (to my knowledge) that requires you to serve your initial full commitment (5 years) as a CG officer prior to cross commissioning. My guess as to the reasoning behind it is partially funding as the CG is funded via DHS funds vice DoD based commissioning funds.
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And by the way, its why BGOs are not supposed to comment like that on turndowns. Quite frankly, last year, I had one of my candidates get a turndown that amazed me. Really good high school, superior academics and SATs, reasonable athletics and a truly superior (and innovative) Eagle Project but he too got turned down.
By comparison, a candidate that I have this year who IS getting sworn in on I day has better SAT's, similar level academics in a high school that is nowhere near as good, no Eagle Project and less athletics. Now this candidate is from a different and normally less competitive Congressional District but timing and luck have a huge impact.
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I wonder if you could elaborate on "similar level academics in a high school that is nowhere near as good".
It feeds into my fear that a candidate who takes all of the hardest classes (mostly AP, IB, or honors classes), is in top 10% of class, and gets A's at inner-city public school with all its challenges is disadvantaged with respect to another candidate who also takes all of the hardest classes, is in top 10%, and gets A's in private school that sends half their graduates to Ivy's.
I wonder if you could elaborate on "similar level academics in a high school that is nowhere near as good".
It feeds into my fear that a candidate who takes all of the hardest classes (mostly AP, IB, or honors classes), is in top 10% of class, and gets A's at inner-city public school with all its challenges is disadvantaged with respect to another candidate who also takes all of the hardest classes, is in top 10%, and gets A's in private school that sends half their graduates to Ivy's.
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Yeah, what makes for a "good high school" exactly? Is it more than the academic and/or program rigor? Is it class size and performance, and do top-tier learning communities in the big schools factor into the "good" equation?