reporting time ?-- after thanksgiving break

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  1. HonorKP

    HonorKP Member

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    Does school has time restriction for entering school after break?

    I am trying to buy air ticket for Thanksgiving break and wondering any restriction on time.
    How late I can come back to school at night if there is such thing ?

    I know I have to come back by Nov. 25, 12:00pm. Since I have to fly back from home, I will buy ticket on Nov. 24. How late I can enter to school? If I buy late flight, I will arrive on LGA around 10:00pm.

    If school has time restriction on entering, I have to make a plan for night or buy a earlier ticket.

    Anybody has a advicce, it will be big help for me.

    Thanks in advance and see you soon!
     
  2. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ 5-Year Member

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    While waiting for a USMMA poster to chime in (I’m Navy background), I realized I have internalized the 24-hour military clock for so long, that 1200 always means noon to me - and I’m not sure whether you mean noon or midnight by “12:00 pm.” There are actually varying schools of thought as to which is noon and which is midnight, for “12:00 am” and “12:00 pm.”

    Anyway - I’d be surprised if you had to be back by noon on the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend. I would bet midnight or some other evening time, but that is purely guesswork. There will be knowledgeable posters helping out here.

    And, assuming a parallel with USNA and other military bases, whose customs I know better, it’s a 24-hour base. You’ll know which gates will be open, you’ll show your ID, return to your barracks area, check in off leave using whatever procedure applies, resume normal routine.

    And - be careful of booking your outbound flight, be sure you know when you can check out and how much time to allow for airport transit.

    If you start translating everything into military time now, you’ll never have ambiguity as to exactly what time is intended.
     
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  3. kpmom2013

    kpmom2013 5-Year Member

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    Not positive about this year, but plebes generally have to be back early, at least by 1800. You will likely have a knowledge test that Sunday night.
    You will soon discover the futility of trying to make plane reservations during your time at KP. Most Plebes who live far away go to a classmate's house for Thanksgiving. You get more time off at the end of first trimester in late October, so it usually makes more sense to go home then. Flights are a lot cheaper than at Thanksgiving too.
     
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  4. HonorKP

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    In the calendar, sunday 25 November : Thanksgiving leave expires for all midshipmen at class rates
    MCDO watch begins @1200--- this gave the idea about report time but not sure

    Thanks for the input and 24 - hour base is the answer I seek for.

    Yes, I changed my watch into military time but not my brain yet. :oops2: One more thing I have to work on.
     
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    kpmom2013 5-Year Member

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    Class rates means your leave end time varies according to your class year (Plebes have to be back soonest, followed by 3rd class, 2nd class, and finally 1st class mids.) Do not be late returning from leave under any circumstances! If you have watch, your leave may end sooner. However, you might be able to get someone to take your watch if you are lucky. And of course you will not know when your scheduled watches are going to be until after you want to make travel reservations. That's why I said you should consider hanging out for Thanksgiving with a classmate who lives easy driving distance from the academy.
     
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  6. HonorKP

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    I did not know we can leave the school before Thanksgiving break.
    According to calendar, 10/27 is the final date for first trimester and 11/5 is registration for second term. That is greater time to fly home than Thanksgiving for sure . Can plebes go back to home this time period as well?

    Regarding to Thanksgiving break, yes it is short and expensive trip. Do you think I will make a friend to invite me during this family holiday? I don't want to be alone but burden to my classmate either.
     
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  7. BTCS/USN

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    Old habits die hard Skipper. Luckily I married a nurse and she lives by a 24 hour clock too. The only thing she does balk at though is showing up 15 minutes early on the porch to give 8 o'clock reports every night.
     
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    Yes, you can leave during the trimester break. You should have no problem finding someone who wants to have you over for Thanksgiving break. Your only problem will be trying to decide which offer to accept. It is a family at Kings Point, and everyone really does look out for each other.
     
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    We went to NY for Thanksgiving one year. Met our DS in NYC. Watched the Macy's day parade in an area blocked off for service members (could have held 50 people) only 5 were in there. DS had uniform on which gave him a lot of perks. Did not have to wake up early to get a spot. Visited a few Museums. Let him relax for 4 days instead of traveling for 2.

    Reporting times (May change)
    1800-Plebes
    1900-3rd Class
    2000-2nd Class
    2100-1st Class
     
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    I never went home for Thanksgiving. Either stayed on board and/or spent a day or two at a classmates house. With the pending required Christmas break so close to Thanksgiving, it just didn't make economic sense.
     
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    I have been living on a 24 hour clock since Plebe year, some 41 years ago. Since I have worked in the maritime and/or offshore industry since graduation, my mind is locked in on the 24 hour clock. Even the clock in my truck is set to 24 hours. Drives the wife crazy. . . . the other habit, similar to your last, is showing up to relieve the watch 15 minutes before the hour. Almost always, I get to where I need to be, 15 minutes before, or earlier. It drives me nuts when someone doesn't.
     
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    Notably, at my current company and last, for call-in meetings, the military veterans are almost invariably on the line 10 minutes before scheduled start, usually beating the meeting leader to the call (unless that person is a vet!).
     
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  13. Jmoney457

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    I had a class with an NFO (LT), on AD orders at KP or some arrangement, not sure. He isn't there anymore, but the guy was a USNA grad who got kicked out of USNA for being academically deficient as a senior, but the supe got him back in and he graduated. The guy was routinely late, disorganized, and didn't care about teaching anybody anything. He didn't even care when people skipped his class (at an academy). All he did in class was joke around about all of the stuff he did at USNA that was against the rules.
     
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    Which is weird because the Supt is the one that makes the call on that in the first place. Sounds like a real solid officer, unfortunately bad apples get thru.
     
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    The supe kicked him out, but his story was he appealed it and asked for another chance and they gave it to him.
     
  16. NavyHoops

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    They do get to appeal. That usually goes to SecNav. Really sucks he got to got to mentor and train future Sailors. Horrible representation.
     
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    He was a real nice guy though. Funny anecdote, one of my buddies who graduated and is a SNA now was in this LT's class. He skipped the class so many times that he accidentally skipped the midterm exam. The LT never looked at attendance, so he had no records if the kid was there or not. LT assumes that it's his fault, thinks he lost or misplaced the exam and substitutes the class average score for his grade, I think it was 78%. So the kid passed the class without going most of the time.
     
  18. golfindad

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    Almost every break during plebe year had a change of date or time for the class of 2020. You may be better waiting to see how things go and what the times will be. Once you are through indoc you will know what time you need to be back. Fyi DS always flies first flight of the day. Gets to LGA at noon or 1 and has never had an issue. Caveat however is every year could be different on return times. The one thing that stays the same however is don't be late.
     
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