Rules of the Sea

LineInTheSand said:
But if I read the U.S. Code correctly..... this doesn't apply to U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Navy vessels.... is that right?
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You have to read SOLAS 1974 and all of US Code with regards to rendering assistance. You also have to see how USC defines vessel engaged in public service. SOLAS and USC require the US to have the ability to render coastal assistance.

(24) “public vessel” means a vessel that—
(A) is owned, or demise chartered, and operated by the United States Government or a government of a foreign country; and
(B) is not engaged in commercial service.


These would typically be US Naval Ships.
 
tankercaptain said:
You have to read SOLAS 1974 and all of US Code with regards to rendering assistance. You also have to see how USC defines vessel engaged in public service. SOLAS and USC require the US to have the ability to render coastal assistance.

(24) “public vessel” means a vessel that—
(A) is owned, or demise chartered, and operated by the United States Government or a government of a foreign country; and
(B) is not engaged in commercial service.


These would typically be US Naval Ships.
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I agree.
 
Would You Render Assistance at Sea? Without Compensation? That is the question!
 
In relation to the Carnival Triumph this is a Government shakedown and nothing more.
 
AF6872 said:
Would You Render Assistance at Sea? Without Compensation? That is the question!
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Absolutely.

Well, I wouldn't... because all I'm in command of now, with my wife, is a two-boat fleet of blue kayaks. We're pretty good, but have limited towing capabilities.
 
KPEngineer said:
In relation to the Carnival Triumph this is a Government shakedown and nothing more.
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Okay. We have established that rescuing and hauling to port the Triumph and Splendor is the right thing to do, ethically and leagally.

Is Carnival paying for the rescue the wrong thing?

What is your bottom line?
 
If they used a commercial service they'd be paying for it.

This KIND OF protects an industry. If I had to chose between paying for a tow and asking the USCG for a free tow.... I'd ask for a free tow. Now... if I had to pay for it? Well, I'm use the towing experts (and that aint the USCG).

The other side of that is, every time the Coast Guard tows, it's less money in the pocket of someone who's job that is.
 
LITS:

Bet you could both paddle pretty good for the salvage rights.:thumb: But that is another story. Get a line on after abandon. Seriously, I don't know if the USCG even has the towing capacity for a ship that size. It would have to be commercial.
 
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