My DD went for an NHS officer position and got one (appointed by teachers) and is attending Girls State. NHS officer was her own idea, I thought she already had enough on her plate and was against it and Girls state was because of the advice given on this board.@Old Navy BGO There have not been any accusations or conclusions. I simply was stating what was conveyed to me and asking for advice. After thinking about this "YES" I do believe the Superintendent did use his position to get his son into Boys State and the NHS is a position appointed by the teachers. Is it just a coincidence supe's son has showed up in two places that happen to add points to a SA application? Maybe? I am starting to suspect it is not. This HS has more than 1200 students and they are sending 3 to Girls State. As they say where there is smoke there is usually fire.
He found another way, just like Candidate #1 did.
I would like to see that too. I only made it as far as Star Scout, But I can remember putting in more than a weeks worth of work to get ONE merit badge! And you need 21 to make Eagle. (The surveying merit badge was HARD!). And years and years of leader ship on dozens and dozens of camping trips. My hat is off to anyone who makes Eagle.Seven (7) days at Boys State equates to working for ten (10) years to attain Scouting's highest honor?
I will need to see that in writing.
I'm a bit biased on this one... I literally handed in my Eagle Scout paperwork to the board the day before my 18th birthday. It was one of the harder things I have done in my life. I get a little salty these days. It seems like there are many kids in my area earning their Eagle Scout rank as young as 14. A lot. I'm not sure if the standards lightened up in my region, or if there were rule changes. Our local troop produces 3-4 Eagle Scouts a year. I just these kids are putting in all the work required and aren't just being pushed thru the system.I would like to see that too. I only made it as far as Star Scout, But I can remember putting in more than a weeks worth of work to get ONE merit badge! And you need 21 to make Eagle. (The surveying merit badge was HARD!). And years and years of leader ship on dozens and dozens of camping trips. My hat is off to anyone who makes Eagle.Seven (7) days at Boys State equates to working for ten (10) years to attain Scouting's highest honor?
I will need to see that in writing.
I don't know about USNA but I can tell you for a fact that at USMA attending Boy State does equate to being an Eagle Scout.My information on the points awarded for Eagle Scout and Boys State is from USNA BGO meeting last year. I agree USNA has not published WCS algorithm yet last year a BGO asked and they stated it was worth the same as an Eagle Scout +500 points. The question is is the Superintendent using his influence to help his son? If he is is thatTo my knowledge, no one has ever published the USNA WCS algorithm. This statement gets bantered about here from time to time, but the basis is unclear.Just as a side note Boys State gets a candidate as many points on a SA app as an Eagle Scout does
I understand Boy's State is a good program, and I think the value to Admissions is that selection for Boy's State is the fact that the participant is recognized for their leadership potential. That said, achieving the Eagle Rank is Boy Scouts, which involves several years of dedication and actual leadership experience is a completely different experience than Boy's State.
I agree with this statement. Boy Scouts, now "Scouts BSA" and Boys State are really two different programs and hard to compare. I am an Eagle and active on the Board of my local Scout Council, and will freely admit to my bias, as well as my lack of knowledge about the Boys State program. I view fellow Eagle Scouts as I do my USNA classmates and other USNA grads - Right or wrong, there is a presumption of honor, mutual respect, and trust created by a common experience. I don't know how this relationship can be developed during a week at Boys State.I don’t know enough about Boys or Girls State to compare with Eagle. I just know that in most cases, becoming an Eagle Scout is a milestone achievement that inherently represents sustained leadership over years. Our USNA AC serves on the Eagle BOR in a nearby district and has similar opinions to mine. I think people sometimes react to the equal comparison between Boys State and Eagle not because they feel one is “better” than the other but because one is so different from the other, with greatly different time frames. They are hard to compare.