Scoliosis/pilot training
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I can not second 'get a specialist ASAP' enough!! I'd like to add to that, follow up, follow up and follow up again. And, no matter how much they say, 'your DS/D should be doing this whole application', this is not territory a 17 yr child can navigate. For example, at my DS's physical the 'physician' (and I use that term loosely) told me my son had an irregular heart beat, technically arrhythmia. He took his pulse, at his wrist, and made the diagnoses. No ekg, no symptoms, nothing. What??!!! I was fuming, it's borderline malpractice. Got DS into a pediatric cardiologist (DS was 17) 2 days later. Dr did an EKG, NOT arrhythmia, perfectly normal, especially for tall adolescent males. She sent paperwork to clinic that did the exam, they 'misplaced' Dr's EKG results and paperwork twice, diagnosis was sent to DODMERB anyway. Pedi Cardio sent paperwork to DOMERB while DS was still in remedial status, hoping to circumvent a waiver. I followed up many times, again paperwork was sent several times but was finally was cleared up. Never went to waiver, he passed. Perspective, $500 doctors visit vs $500, 000 scholarship.
I'm an active duty officer, so please, save the preaching - I know full well how the military works. My job (operating a $500 mil weapon system) requires adherence to all sorts of TO's, checklists, Higher Headquarter Guidance, etc. My point, which you along with a few others seem to be missing, is that just because there is a regulation or rule in place doesn't necessarily make it a good one, and I'm speaking broadly here, not only in terms of medical regulations but in general terms. There's a phrase you've probably heard before for those who blindly follow regulations w/out question, "Yes Men". Believe it or not, the more experience you gain with bureaucracy, the more you realize the need to give a healthy amount of questioning to rules/regs.
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Tex, did you go into your career as a high school student KNOWING how "stupid" these regs were?
I never said any of these regs were "stupid" so I don't know what you're referring to there. Are there some medical standards, among other things, that I believe the AF/military to be behind the times on? Sure - but I never said "all regs are stupid". Also, as I previously stated, I'm already an officer so I'm not sure what my high school education has to do with this.
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Tex232, you are 100% correct you never said "stupid" you said "dumb" Isn't that really the same, but different verbiage?
~ Just asking would you not agree? Don't want to go off topic, but you said dumb...post #5 (your post)
Can the military be behind the times? Heck Yes. However, I think on the 1st page of this thread you were all negative
My response is how many non-ejection seat waivers can they give out? Back issues, seating height, etc.
They have a mission, and many include ejection seats. The common joke is the AF is the Chair Force.
The OP is on the brim regarding his curvature degree. We need to be telling them how to get in front of this medically, not this is dumb medically. No offense, but not once did you offer a suggestion, you just threw blame at the AF.
You and fencer are in a fight on the forum. Yes, maybe she didn't know you are ADAF. However, she has had the phone call of a friend of her 2 DSs that fly regarding crashes. Some were USAFA grads with her kids, some were peers at UPT, some were colleagues in their airframe. NOBODY knows what it is like to stand in a crowd as they do a missing man.
~ As a parent that is our new reality.
~~ My 1st time I attended one I was 9 mos pregnant in the UK with my ADAF. 2nd when I was 5 mos pregnant with my 2nd child. 3rd was when my by 2nd was only mos old. 4th. was the horrible crash at Ft Bragg on the Green Ramp in 94. (6 weeks out ).
I am not trying to be mean, rude or unkind, but to say to you the flying world is unique. You kept saying on and on about likelihood of ejections/crashes is impo wrong. There is an insanely high risk in the flying world, and all ADAF is doing is making sure they lower the risk
We all bleed AF BLUE, so let's bleed it... let's support them.
For posters, I know I was a downer, but I did so out of love. We have great friends that we consider family. We are retired and miss our AF weekend picnic/parties. I would give my life to do this all over again. We moved 11 x, bought 5 homes. There are no words for the connection, but you also have to be involved in the unit. It TRULY is the best the time of your life. if you just let it be.
Isn''t that what we are here for to illustrate the best even if you got number 2 or 3 ?
~ Just asking would you not agree? Don't want to go off topic, but you said dumb...post #5 (your post)
Can the military be behind the times? Heck Yes. However, I think on the 1st page of this thread you were all negative
My response is how many non-ejection seat waivers can they give out? Back issues, seating height, etc.
They have a mission, and many include ejection seats. The common joke is the AF is the Chair Force.
The OP is on the brim regarding his curvature degree. We need to be telling them how to get in front of this medically, not this is dumb medically. No offense, but not once did you offer a suggestion, you just threw blame at the AF.
You and fencer are in a fight on the forum. Yes, maybe she didn't know you are ADAF. However, she has had the phone call of a friend of her 2 DSs that fly regarding crashes. Some were USAFA grads with her kids, some were peers at UPT, some were colleagues in their airframe. NOBODY knows what it is like to stand in a crowd as they do a missing man.
~ As a parent that is our new reality.
~~ My 1st time I attended one I was 9 mos pregnant in the UK with my ADAF. 2nd when I was 5 mos pregnant with my 2nd child. 3rd was when my by 2nd was only mos old. 4th. was the horrible crash at Ft Bragg on the Green Ramp in 94. (6 weeks out ).
I am not trying to be mean, rude or unkind, but to say to you the flying world is unique. You kept saying on and on about likelihood of ejections/crashes is impo wrong. There is an insanely high risk in the flying world, and all ADAF is doing is making sure they lower the risk
We all bleed AF BLUE, so let's bleed it... let's support them.
For posters, I know I was a downer, but I did so out of love. We have great friends that we consider family. We are retired and miss our AF weekend picnic/parties. I would give my life to do this all over again. We moved 11 x, bought 5 homes. There are no words for the connection, but you also have to be involved in the unit. It TRULY is the best the time of your life. if you just let it be.
Isn''t that what we are here for to illustrate the best even if you got number 2 or 3 ?