Second Wave

army2021

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So I know no one can know this for sure, and the dates vary annually, however does anyone know the trend of second wave in relation to the first wave being released? Ex. first wave was x last year and year before, second wave was y, two weeks after
 

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I would guesstimate about four weeks after the first wave. Then it will trickle from there.

Again that's just a speculation

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It wasn't that long for c/o 2019...I think 2 weeks. The second "wave" was no where near as big as first wave.
 

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The Admissions Committee meets every Tuesday to vote on appointments, so they will keep coming out each week.
Another 'wave' could come after 31 Jan, since that is the deadline for MOCs to turn in their slates.
 

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It wasn't that long for c/o 2019...I think 2 weeks. The second "wave" was no where near as big as first wave.

The Admissions Committee meets every Tuesday to vote on appointments, so they will keep coming out each week.
Another 'wave' could come after 31 Jan, since that is the deadline for MOCs to turn in their slates.

Thank you both for your information!
 

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The Admissions Committee meets every Tuesday to vote on appointments, so they will keep coming out each week.
Another 'wave' could come after 31 Jan, since that is the deadline for MOCs to turn in their slates.
So to clarify, since they vote on Tuesdays, a lot of people will be getting appointments still before the next wave hits? Would recruited athletes, principals, etc that didn't get touched during the first wave most likely be handled on this individual bases rather than a second wave? Hopefully my wording made sense. Thanks!
 

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So to clarify, since they vote on Tuesdays, a lot of people will be getting appointments still before the next wave hits? Would recruited athletes, principals, etc that didn't get touched during the first wave most likely be handled on this individual bases rather than a second wave? Hopefully my wording made sense. Thanks!
Sort of an addendum to this: are the appointments mailed out every Tuesday after they admissions board has voted? Or are they mostly held on to and released in the next wave?
 

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If you look at the admission process, there may be a small trickle of offers come over the next few weeks but the next big valve will be in early March. These will be the principals, recruited athletes, LOA holders, etc they were missed in the first wave. Admissions has a place to charge these candidates.

The deadline to have your file complete is the end of February so competitive slates cannot be resolved until that time. While everyone is looking at these early offers, they are the exception not the rule. Most of each year's class comes from the competitive slates.

Once you get boarded, you receive the letter that says you are qualified and placed on the NWL until the application period closes. You have a WCS that ranks you on the slate. You can continue to update your file and improve your WCS.

When the application process closes, all slates are resolved and the next wave goes out in March. After those are complete, offers will again trickle out as people start to decline and others are pulled off the NWL.

Hope that clears up some of the questions.
 

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If you look at the admission process, there may be a small trickle of offers come over the next few weeks but the next big valve will be in early March. These will be the principals, recruited athletes, LOA holders, etc they were missed in the first wave. Admissions has a place to charge these candidates.

The deadline to have your file complete is the end of February so competitive slates cannot be resolved until that time. While everyone is looking at these early offers, they are the exception not the rule. Most of each year's class comes from the competitive slates.

Once you get boarded, you receive the letter that says you are qualified and placed on the NWL until the application period closes. You have a WCS that ranks you on the slate. You can continue to update your file and improve your WCS.

When the application process closes, all slates are resolved and the next wave goes out in March. After those are complete, offers will again trickle out as people start to decline and others are pulled off the NWL.

Hope that clears up some of the questions.

I have to disagree with this. If you look at last year's Class of 2020 thread about 75% of the appointments that were reported in the thread were tendered prior to March. I believe that past history reflects that the first wave is principals, recruited athletes, and LOAs and clear vacancy winners. The second wave is typically 2 to 4 weeks after with additional winners of completed slates. While MOCS do not have to submit their slate until 1/31, many of those slates are finished as well as the respective files. Its my understanding that historically, those will comprise the next wave. After that, it will be more of a trickle.
 

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I have to disagree with this. If you look at last year's Class of 2020 thread about 75% of the appointments that were reported in the thread were tendered prior to March. I believe that past history reflects that the first wave is principals, recruited athletes, and LOAs and clear vacancy winners. The second wave is typically 2 to 4 weeks after with additional winners of completed slates. While MOCS do not have to submit their slate until 1/31, many of those slates are finished as well as the respective files. Its my understanding that historically, those will comprise the next wave. After that, it will be more of a trickle.
Solid assessment, though one must also consider that the people on this forum are likely above the mean in terms of qualifications and, consequently, would likely have recieved appointments faster than most. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
 

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I have to disagree with this. If you look at last year's Class of 2020 thread about 75% of the appointments that were reported in the thread were tendered prior to March. I believe that past history reflects that the first wave is principals, recruited athletes, and LOAs and clear vacancy winners. The second wave is typically 2 to 4 weeks after with additional winners of completed slates. While MOCS do not have to submit their slate until 1/31, many of those slates are finished as well as the respective files. Its my understanding that historically, those will comprise the next wave. After that, it will be more of a trickle.

I just searched the forum for the Class of 2020 Appointment thread and agree that 75% of the individuals reported receiving their notification prior to March but I only see 109 names so basically 10% of the incoming class. If you do the math based on the size of congress (535 Members + 20 percent for multiple opening and then reduced by principal nominees); 55-65% of the class comes from competitive slates submitted by MOCs. The admissions department guide for congress states that 75% of all appointees have a congressional appointment. If you take the number of congressional openings and those from the NWL list, you are really close to 75%. Then there are around 100-150 service connected appointments, 150 from the NWL, the prep-school, and then other smaller groups. The bulk of appointments come from competitive slates and those are not resolved until the application deadline. The files for competitive slates cannot be completed until the application deadline. Now there will always be small exceptions , but generally this is the admissions process.

Solid assessment, though one must also consider that the people on this forum are likely above the mean in terms of qualifications and, consequently, would likely have recieved appointments faster than most. I guess all we can do is wait and see.

BSCAR hits the nail on the head. The individuals on this forum are above the mean and skew the data. This forum is full of helpful information but it also can also raise the stress level of the candidates as they see others that got an LOA or have higher test scores or have an appointment. The process is long and difficult and while this is important, our children must also enjoy there last few months at home.

All candidates appointed to the service academies are very accomplished and have well rounded qualifications, but you do not need to be Valedictorian, have a perfect SAT score or be an All-State athletic star to get in.
 

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Given that the application deadline is tomorrow, does anyone think that we will be seeing the second wave?
 

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I would think that you will see a surge of offers over the next two weeks. Once the deadline passes, admissions will work to resolve all of the primary slates as the next step in the process.
 

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I think wave coming this week or next. My DS spoke to admissions a couple weeks ago. They implied wave coming in early -mid March.
Fingers crossed then. My DD got an update today, not Tues, but today on her portal that she is fully qualified.
 
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