Which of the academies requires a security clearance for admissions? I always thought that security clearances were used for the top military intelligence folks.
For ROTC before you receive a penny in benefits or tuition you submit your security clearance Application, because the process of granting you a secret clearance takes a while they may give you a preliminary thumbs up or down so you may start receiving money. i am not exactly sure about the academies.I did something stupid when I was 15. One of the wise guys from around the neighborhood had a collection of hood ornaments that he so-called "collected". He started giving some away to neighborhood folks and gave me one with a bmw crest on it. Apparently this was one that he stole from a car a couple miles away. A military police investigator wanted to talk to the neighborhood kids about it to find out who was responsible for taking all these ornaments. I voluntarily went to the station to give him my report, and on this report he cited me as "received stolen property". I wasn't arrested, nor was I fingerprinted, or charged with anything. They did recommend a couple hours of community service, but the base commander wouldn't allow it because of my honesty and cooperation "voluntarily". I'm not sure if I would ever put this down on any job application because this is definitely a juvenile record. However, I think... if you apply for a security clearance they have the capability to check your juvenile record. Now from the best of my knowledge, I'm not even so sure what happened to that file. It was on an overseas military garrison, so I know for sure it would be in any records within the U.S. or any state/county.
So Basically.. my question:
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When do they do the security clearance, and what do they want to know?
Especially when you have asked a legal forum the same question. I was sitting in a teacher's meeting yesterday when the legal department was warning us about what we put on the internet, because in this day and age, whatever we put, a student will find it. The same applies for candidates for the service academies.Honesty in completing application. Lets be real here the information requested can be obtained by the military with a few phone calls. The real purpose of the application is to gauge your honesty and speed up the process. So don't lie.
Not totally up to speed on clearances but what Chip says about the process causes me to think that he has done his homework. However, I do agree that you have nothing to worry about.Exar_Ganis said:Now from the best of my knowledge, I'm not even so sure what happened to that file. It was on an overseas military garrison, so I know for sure it would be in any records within the U.S. or any state/county.
And my response was, see #3 above.And my question was... at what point does the respective service academy require you to obtain a security clearance? Isn't this before your commission, or do they do it during the admissions process (before acceptances)
I doubt that.There are various categories of clearance, ranging from Confidential, through Secret, to the various stages of Top Secret. I think most midshipmen and cadets receive a Secret as part of the admissions process.
Depends upon the level of clearance. A CONFIDENTIAL will be granted with as little as a credit check, citizenship check, and criminal background check. SECRET will require more, TOP SECRET even more, and above that it gets VERY VERY intense.and what do they want to know?
Yikes! What are doin' there... trying out palm reading? LOL Slow down on turning your mole hill into a mountain. Seriously, I think you'll be ok. Just put it down on your application so that it doesn't come back & bite you in the butt later. They don't run the security check until after you get an appointment. And its not like you were a little Al Capone or a baby bank robber. Don't sweat it by doing the right thing & writing down exactly what happened.I know for fact, that if it is part of the admissions process, they'd sack me despite the innocuousness of the incident.
Sorry if i sound arrogant here, but I'm right and you're wrong. It exists somewhere.I'm not sure if I feel you about the expungement, Chip. From what I heard here, getting an expungement shreds your record entirely. I just don't know what other outlet could possibly store the file.
Yup. We've got a tempest in a teacup, here. Unless you committed murder or were caught smuggling drugs or something, chances are they've seen similar profiles come through the place.Yikes! What are doin' there... trying out palm reading? LOL Slow down on turning your mole hill into a mountain. Seriously, I think you'll be ok. Just put it down on your application so that it doesn't come back & bite you in the butt later. They don't run the security check until after you get an appointment. And its not like you were a little Al Capone or a baby bank robber. Don't sweat it by doing the right thing & writing down exactly what happened.