Senator vs. Congressional nomination

Discussion in 'Nominations' started by pilot101, Feb 26, 2019.

  1. pilot101

    pilot101 New Member

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    Is a senator nomination or a congressional nomination better. Im speaking competitively is it harder to obtain a senator nomination because you are competing against everyone in the state. Can anyone break it down
     
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    They are weighted equally as far as admissions is concerned. Senate nominations may be harder to obtain in some states, but some senators and congressman coordinate nominations so it is hard to say for certain

    Bottom line: apply for every nomination you are eligible for, including the VP nomination.
     
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    In the letter the 2 senators sent my daughter, it said they got over 300 applicants for a nom.

    Our rep, I think, gets less than 10 apps for each SA every year.
     
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    In our state (MA) the senators coordinate with the Reps so as not to duplicate any noms and “spread the wealth.” You only need one nom, so the senators wait until the Reps submit their slates and award to additional applicants. My DS got calls from both senate offices with this message. Other states are different and any process can change year to year. Apply to all sources.
     
  5. USNA_Dad

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    In large population states, the senatorial nom is harder to get due to high numbers of quality candidates. But as far as admissions is concerned, a top ranked congressional nom is as good as a top ranked senatorial nom.
     
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    I guess getting a Senator vs a Congressional Rep nomination is easier in states like Delaware and Wyoming, but you want to apply for them all. Neither one is better.
    I never really thought about it. It is harder to get a congressional nomination in states like Delaware and Wyoming than it is to get a senatorial nomination. But either way they are all worth the same. And that is why every candidate needs to apply to all of them.
     
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    In some states where MOCs coordinate nominations, congressional nominations are selected first (which means these nominees will not even be considered for senatorial nomination). As other have mentioned, don't worry about the competitiveness or "worth" of different nomination sources. Apply to each available nomination source. Good luck.
     
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    We are from Delaware. Our congresswoman is atlarge (only 1) so basically, the same kids apply to all of them. I'm not sure exactly how many there were (30ish), but DS ended up with 3 nominations to USMA and 3 to USAFA. He said it was statistically easier in places like Delaware/Wyoming.
     
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    I'm confused by a "top ranked congressional nom". Obviously, if your congressman is chair of the armed services committee, that's a big deal. But what if you're from a district with little representation at the academies (like an inner city district in a blue state)? I thought those were desirable nominations for geographical diversity. Just really curious how this works.
     
  10. USNA_Dad

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    Sorry for the confusion. Background: Each senator and each congressman (Members of Congress - or MOC) can have 5 kids charged to them at each of the service academies of USNA, USMA and USAFA. Merchant Marine Academy uses Congressional noms only and Coast Guard Academy doesn’t require a nom. Each MOC can nominate 10 kids each year to each service academy. There are basically three ways MOCs send their lists of nominations to the academies. The preferred way the academies like to get the list is an unranked list of 10. Meaning the MOC doesn’t rank the nominees and just says: here’s my list of 10. The second way MOCs will send their list is with an MOC’s ranking of 1-10. The third way is where an MOC designates a principal nomination and 9 alternates. If the principal nomination is all around qualified for the academy, the principal nom. will most likely get the appointment.

    What I was referring to in the post above was if you’re the number one ranked nominee or principal nomination, it doesn’t matter if it’s from a congressman or a senator because each MOC will get one nominated kid into each academy (or possibly 2, depending if 2 kids are graduating that year). Blue or red state or position in Congress doesn’t really matter because each MOC will have a nominated kid attend an academy.