Shocking Wear and Tear' at U.S. Air Force Bases

Don't think its wasting time when you can finish your work early... especially if you're deployed and working 12-16 hour days 7 days a week... just my $.02
 
Joint Basing (reverve bases) started in 1993, 15 years before the current administration
The majority were based on the BRAC report and started in 2005, 3 years before the current adminsitration
 
Don't think its wasting time when you can finish your work early... especially if you're deployed and working 12-16 hour days 7 days a week... just my $.02

If you can finish your work early, consistently, then you need more work.

Random fired drills speak less to readiness and more to poor planning (which again is a bad argument.)

There is no reason, stateside.
 
OK Physco

I thought this forum was done-I guess not..

First of all, 59 minutes is a Civilian policy granted to Civilians by supervisors under Civilian regulations. Military personnel do not follow Civilian policy/regulations. Military personnel are granted liberty and time off at the authority of their chain. The civilian policy allowed such a rule to be under the 1 hour mark on purpose. Military people have no such rule of "59 minutes".

Second, do you know what happens when you point the finger at someone.

Third, these DOD personnel are gone 8 months plus working God knows how many hours 7 seven days a week and so when they get state side from a Sh#tty location who gives a crap how much time they get off. Don't let your head blow up on that man.
 
First, yes uniformed members CAN get 59 minutes, but I've only typically seen it with commands with civilian positions included... Perhaps a "civilians get 59 minutes, so anyone in uniform can too."

Second, the point is, it's hard to take the "look how overworked our military is" argument stateside, because of many things, included some of the issues listed above.

Third, in combat clearly things are a different pace. So you REALLY believe some Army major at Ft. Knox, or Marine colonel at the Pentagon, or Navy chief at Mayport, or Air Force lieutenant at Andrews or Coast Guard commander at CGHQ has it THAT different than a civilian federal employee? I'll ruin the surprise, the answer is no, not that different.
 
Listen....

59 minutes are given to Civilians because anything over 59 minute is 1 hour...... Hence 1 hour has to be accounted for on Civilian Time Cards requiring that 40 hrs a week as per Civilian rule and regulations- otherwise some type of leave has to be RECORDED sick or annaul leave..... Do the Military have Time Cards? AAAAAAAA Nope

the rest is just SHEAR IDIOTIC noise.
 
Time cards?!? Hahaha....

Clearly there's a difference between a stateside staff tour and a deployment. That should go without saying.
 
You don't think Civilians have electronic time cards. Use google to check out KRONOS
 
You mean a figurative time card? Yes, I know there are time sheets. And I know at CGHQ, as someone in uniform, I was given "59 minutes".
 
No for pete sake. People(civilians) have to electronically use KRONOS to electronically keep track of their 40 hr weeks. If you are granted a 59 minute from your supervisor then you do not need to record it. But, if you go over an hr it has to be electronically recorded.

As an example, if someone takes a 1hr 15min for a dentist appointment then it goes down as an example 0800 to 0915 sick time on such day(actually when filling it out it is in the form of a request that populates the time card). The rest of the day would show normal work hrs. The same for other various leaves after the 59 minute barrier is broken.

The key is to get a your sup to give you -under civilian rules a 59 min. Sups do not have authority to go beyond 59 mins.

Not time sheets--it's been electronic for sometime now.

Again, MILITARY do not have this system only civilians. Military are just excused by their sups and no tracking of time. I knew this would blow your head up.
 
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No for pete sake. People(civilians) have to electronically use KRONOS to electronically keep track of their 40 hr weeks. If you are granted a 59 minute from your supervisor then you do not need to record it. But, if you go over an hr it has to be electronically recorded.

As an example, if someone takes a 1hr 15min for a dentist appointment then it goes down as an example 0800 to 0915 sick time on such day(actually when filling it out it is in the form of a request that populates the time card). The rest of the day would show normal work hrs. The same for other various leaves after the 59 minute barrier is broken.

The key is to get a your sup to give you -under civilian rules a 59 min. Sups do not have authority to go beyond 59 mins.

Not time sheets--it's been electronic for sometime now.

Again, MILITARY do not have this system only civilians. Military are just excused by their sups and no tracking of time. I knew this would blow your head up.

What's amazing is, you're not correct (OK, at some level you are). Time and Attendance, these are time sheets. Who is using a "time card" that you know?

Yes, I agree with your last paragraph, which is essentially what I'm saying here (post #47 on this thread)....

"First, yes uniformed members CAN get 59 minutes, but I've only typically seen it with commands with civilian positions included... Perhaps a "civilians get 59 minutes, so anyone in uniform can too.""
 
My last job I was at a USMC mixed command of civilians and Marines for over a decade. Sure the civilians got a 59, but the command matched this for the Marines. Heck the Chief of Staff in his emails that detailed the schedule called it a 59 for the Marines although it is just general liberty granted by a CO in reality. Its just nuances in terminology.
 
This is absolutely hilarious!

What's amazing is, you're not correct (OK, at some level you are). Time and Attendance, these are time sheets. Who is using a "time card" that you know?.""

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