Should all congressional noms be out by now?

No, last day to submit them for MOC is January 31. Some do release it by that day
 
I suspect they may be a little later this year because Congress has been extremely busy lately and are on a well earned Holiday.

The Senators from NY were interviewing in January last year.
 
Two of our Senators replied but haven't received anything from Congressman. I even checked the email my older son received two years ago. While his nomination was dated mid December, I don't believe he actually received until after the start of new year.
 
My DS hasn't heard anything from either Senators or the Congressman. To be fair, they did tell him he'd hear in January.
 
Remember, congressmen have first dibs on candidates and nominate before the senior senator, then the junior senator. Yes, their offices typically coordinate. How well they communicate it to the academies and then to the candidates is another thing...
 
Army Vet & Parent said:
Remember, congressmen have first dibs on candidates and nominate before the senior senator, then the junior senator. Yes, their offices typically coordinate.
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Are you referring to a specific state? Because not every state does it the same. Some coordinate. Others don’t. And even in states where they coordinate, they may not do it this way. And it can change year to year, and can depend on who’s in office.
 
MidCakePa said:
Are you referring to a specific state? Because not every state does it the same. Some coordinate. Others don’t. And even in states where they coordinate, they may not do it this way. And it can change year to year, and can depend on who’s in office.
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Exactly...our junior senator awarded before senior senator, and both before congressional (which was all different than two years prior with first son and different congressional member).

Additionally, earlier go arounds with same senators didn’t coordinate. This year they did. So it changed with same senators.

They can and do whatever they want! The only set rule is they are due January 31st.
 
Army Vet & Parent said:
Remember, congressmen have first dibs on candidates and nominate before the senior senator, then the junior senator. Yes, their offices typically coordinate. How well they communicate it to the academies and then to the candidates is another thing...
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Not in our state!
 
TexasAggie204 said:
Not in our state!
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Agree. Senior senator gets first look, followed by junior senator then representative. Only one nomination (among all competitive sources) to a single academy allowed in our state/district.
 
justdoit19 said:
They can and do whatever they want! The only set rule is they are due January 31st.
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IMHO, this is slightly imbalanced. There's no uniform process, which means that some candidates get multiple nominations to multiple service academies (= more chances for appointment) while others compete for a single nomination to a single academy (= less chances for appointment). This is not based on merit but on the politics of collaboration. I know "it is what it is," "control what you can control," do your best, etc. But it has always struck me as odd that there is no uniformity.
 
Dadx4 said:
IMHO, this is slightly imbalanced. There's no uniform process, which means that some candidates get multiple nominations to multiple service academies (= more chances for appointment) while others compete for a single nomination to a single academy (= less chances for appointment). This is not based on merit but on the politics of collaboration. I know "it is what it is," "control what you can control," do your best, etc. But it has always struck me as odd that there is no uniformity.
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In the end I am not sure it changes much.

If you get one nom, 3q, and you are wanted by the SA, you get in.

Are there qualified candidates that don’t get noms? Sure. But we don’t know if they were competitive or not.

I personally don’t like the principal nom ... especially by Senators. What benefit is there in taking the decision away from the SA (I get USNA is slightly different)?
 
Army Vet & Parent said:
Remember, congressmen have first dibs on candidates and nominate before the senior senator, then the junior senator. Yes, their offices typically coordinate. How well they communicate it to the academies and then to the candidates is another thing...
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This is more the exception than the rule. MOCs do what they want. To those who don’t like it, vote them out. Congress usually has around a 12-13% approval rating but individual MOCs run around 80%. In other words the population hates Congress but love their Congressman.
 
A1Janitor said:
In the end I am not sure it changes much.
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I think it changes some. I've heard of candidates receiving multiple congressional/senate nominations to all four service academies that require a nomination. If appointments truly depend on "winning one's slate," then those candidates have a better chance than those with only one nomination to a single academy. I think nominations should be made on merit alone regardless of duplication. But that's just me...
 
Dadx4 said:
I think it changes some. I've heard of candidates receiving multiple congressional/senate nominations to all four service academies that require a nomination. If appointments truly depend on "winning one's slate," then those candidates have a better chance than those with only one nomination to a single academy. I think nominations should be made on merit alone regardless of duplication. But that's just me...
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I don’t disagree with you per se.

But logically (and I understand very district and state are different) ... just because a candidate is on four slates doesn’t necessarily mean they have a better chance of appointment. They still have to win a slate. And generally speaking ... Senator slates are more competitive than Reps.

I don’t think many candidates, if any, don’t get in because of this.
 
A1Janitor said:
They still have to win a slate.
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Correct, and the more slates they are on, the more flexibility the SAs have to appoint. Moreover, if an exceptional candidate applied to 2 or more academies but only receives a nomination to one because of collaboration (where others received multiple congressional and senate nominations to multiple academies), the policy-restricted candidate is out of luck at the academies where no nomination was received. Indeed, some candidates are disadvantaged.
 
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