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If the #1 Candidate accepts their appointment - is there a chance the #2 candidate would also get one? Back several years ago - I know 3 candidates were appointed from the same district... all three accepted...on a side note, this seems like a much more lengthy process than in years past.
 
If the #1 Candidate accepts their appointment - is there a chance the #2 candidate would also get one? Back several years ago - I know 3 candidates were appointed from the same district... all three accepted...on a side note, this seems like a much more lengthy process than in years past.

Two of us from my district have already received our appointments. Only I have accepted as she is waiting on the Naval Academy before deciding.

I do not know whether I won my congressional slate or my senatorial slate, however, our Congresswoman called both of us...this leads me to believe that we may have already received appointments from the same slate somehow...it’s confusing but it happens.
 
Your MOC is allowed 4 slots at West Point at any given time, one for each grade. Thus, if they did not have someone accepted for one of these slots in previous years- or, I believe, if one of their slate winners leaves the academy before graduating- then your MOC can have multiple slots to fill, and more than one slate winner can be appointed, not including those that can still be accepted on the NWL.
 
I do not know about whether a slot opens up if someone who was accepted as a slate winner leaves the academy before graduating. Come to think of it probably not, but that would be a good question for someone more knowledgeable.
 
That is not exactly correct. Each MOC is allowed 5 spots at any one time. If someone leaves prior to graduating then that opens another slot the next year.

Yes, theoretically all other 9 candidates could receive an offer. It just means that only one is charged to the MOC. If I remember @GoArmy2022 has an LOA so she did not need to win her slate to get an appointment, she just needs a nomination and then could be charged elsewhere.
 
In addition to the appointments that are officially charged to nominating sources such as congressional/senate MOCs, there are 150 appointments for Qualified Alternates based strictly on order of merit (WCS Score) and another 200- 400 Additional Appointees that don't need to be based on order of merit - usually recruited athletes, under represented minorities, etc.
 
And don't forget the SD/Vet and Presidential nominations. One year 4 kids from our high school got into the Naval Academy (ugh, squids!)--so people who obsess about 'my district' may be causing themselves unnecessary misery in the waiting process.
 
4 people were appointed last year from our congressional district. 2 recruited athletes and 2 non recruited athletes. From my son's class of 101 students, 1 appointed to USMA and one sadly made the wrong choice to attend USNA. :eek:
 
Last year we had 3 appointed from the same MOC. This year there is only 1 slot available . However, 1-2 will be resigning at the end of Plebe Year to serve a mission which will open up more slots, but probably not in time for Class of 2022.
 
Last year we had 3 appointed from the same MOC. This year there is only 1 slot available . However, 1-2 will be resigning at the end of Plebe Year to serve a mission which will open up more slots, but probably not in time for Class of 2022.
BTW, there is only 1 slot because 1 was already out there.
 
In 2008, 9/10 on my DS's slate received appointments (#10 was medically DQ'd).
 
I'm a little bewildered on the admission process. Some have received appointments and some haven't. To my understanding, this doesn't mean one applicant is worse than any other. I've read the forum and I have heard something about the slate ranking. I know my district does not rank so there is no slate winner. Does this mean that my slate has yet to be analyzed by admissions if no one has heard back (to my knowledge)? I'm just a little confused and don't know as much as others on the forum. if anyone would be willing to help I would be much appreciated!
 
I'm a little bewildered on the admission process. Some have received appointments and some haven't. To my understanding, this doesn't mean one applicant is worse than any other. I've read the forum and I have heard something about the slate ranking. I know my district does not rank so there is no slate winner. Does this mean that my slate has yet to be analyzed by admissions if no one has heard back (to my knowledge)? I'm just a little confused and don't know as much as others on the forum. if anyone would be willing to help I would be much appreciated!
Your MOC has the right to rank his/her nominees. If the slate is not ranked by the MOC, WP will pick a winner from the slate. If you know for a fact who all the nominees on your slate are, and you know none of them have been offered then the slate has not been picked. Or, no one on the slate was triple qualified. Not sure what happens in that case.

Each qualified candidate has a whole candidate score. It is possible that one candidate who is appointed has worse scores than some who were not. Theoretically, if the best candidate on MOC #1's slate has the lowest possible qualifying score and the worst candidate on MOC #2's slate has a score 10 points higher than the lowest qualifying score, then it is possible that several nominees on MOC#2's slate don't get appointed even though they have a higher score than MOC#1's slate winner.
 
I'm a little bewildered on the admission process. Some have received appointments and some haven't. To my understanding, this doesn't mean one applicant is worse than any other. I've read the forum and I have heard something about the slate ranking. I know my district does not rank so there is no slate winner. Does this mean that my slate has yet to be analyzed by admissions if no one has heard back (to my knowledge)? I'm just a little confused and don't know as much as others on the forum. if anyone would be willing to help I would be much appreciated!

You are 100% correct. Those that have already received appointments are not necessarily "better or worse" than those who have not received one yet. It sounds like your MOC submits a competitive list that is unranked. The Academy list all applicants in Congressional Districts starting day one. This is the easiest way to sort them I guess. The RCs are also evaluating the "slates" during the entire process. They could tell you that you are ranked #3 in November and here are things you need to improve. The slates are ranked and in admission's box to resolve.

There are numerous possibilities why you have not heard yet. Maybe they have offered #1 and he has not accepted, or maybe #1 is pending a waiver or maybe they are waiting to receive validation video of the CFA. No one knows this information except your RC. Your FFR may know if he has asked the question.

Admissions wants to complete the class and notify all applicants of their status as soon as possible. You have also seen some individuals get TWEs already. They may be qualified but be ranked 8th on their one slate and have no realistic chance of competing off the NWL. If their is still a reasonable chance of an offer, you will not get a TWE. Once that changes to an unreasonable chance, you will typically get a TWE.
 
I'm a little bewildered on the admission process. Some have received appointments and some haven't. To my understanding, this doesn't mean one applicant is worse than any other. I've read the forum and I have heard something about the slate ranking. I know my district does not rank so there is no slate winner. Does this mean that my slate has yet to be analyzed by admissions if no one has heard back (to my knowledge)? I'm just a little confused and don't know as much as others on the forum. if anyone would be willing to help I would be much appreciated!
There is always a slate winner. If it is not determined by the MOC, it is determined by admissions based on WCS score. However, for the slate winner to then receive an appointment, they must be fully qualified. A slate winner that is not qualified will not receive an appointment.

There is no way to look inside the black box of admissions and figure out the timing of appointments. In general, recruited athletes and very highly qualified candidates will receive appointments earlier in the process, but there are circumstances in which that is not the case or in which a more average candidate will receive an appointment earlier. A lot is based on how soon a file is complete and when it gets reviewed - thousands of files but only a limited number can be reviewed each week.
 
Thank you for the responses. I hope it helps others as well. To recap, no matter if your MOC ranks your slate or not, there is a winner. Either determined by the MOC or admissions. Once the slate comes across admissions desk it is finalized with #1 being offered appointment. If pending or waivers bog down a decision or what not for #1, other 3Q+Nom applicants wait in line? I may be wrong and I'm glad to learn! I'm just like many others, waiting and trying to distract myself. On another note, anyone from CA-26 heard anything?
 
Yes, that is essentially correct. The initial responses to your post covered just about everything pertinent. I would also add that from what I've seen somewhere in the 75-80% range of MOCs send an unranked slate nowadays. The thinking is that West Point knows best who it wants to admit, so might as well leave the decision to them. I am going through the same waiting game; it is difficult, but everyone advises patience. The current cadets that I've talked to- they were quite competitive themselves- were admitted in the late March to early April range, so hold tight.
 
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