Soldiers like new ‘pinks and greens’ but aren’t happy about growing wardrobe

Tex232

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Frankly, the Pinks and Greens were the sharpest uniform the Army, or any branch for that matter, ever had. They were crazy to ever abandon it in the first place. As an AF officer I always hoped that the AF would actually go back to the pinks and greens seeing as how it was the same uniform the Air Corps used, but no, we're still relegated to our boring blue business suit unfortunately. If I was in the Army I would thank my lucky stars to wear that uniform again. Still waiting to see the officer version and if they bring back the iconic belt that goes with the service jacket.
 

Full Metal Bulldog

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The uniform looks good, but I like wearing my ACU's to work. They're comfortable and obviously are far better for when I leave my office to work in the Motor Pool or with any training that's field/tactical-ish. I have read that this uniform will replace ACU's/OCP's as the duty uniform for anyone who works primarily in an office.

As for the belt, I have also read that this uniform was replaced because soldiers in the 1950's started to "look fat" in the uniform and it was hard to size. I'd hate to see what that uniform would look like fielded now, with the belt hahaha.
 

Wishful

"Land of the free, because of the brave..."
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I read somewhere that Jimmy Stewart also flew in Korea & Vietnam.
 

AROTC-dad

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Yes, he retired as a brigadier general in the USAF Reserve.* He flew on a single B-52 mission over Viet Nam as an observer, not command pilot. I don't know about Korea.

In addition to his WW-II experience with the B-17 and B-24, he was command pilot qualified during the Cold War in the B-36, B-47 and the B-52.

He refused to play in war movies because he felt that they would not depict combat accurately. (Strategic Air Command was a rare exception.) He suffered from PTSD as well, having written many letters to families of fallen crewmembers of his bomb group, as well as having narrowly dodged flak bursts.

He was also a Gold Star parent as his stepson, 1st Lt. Ron McLean was a Marine platoon leader who died in combat in Viet Nam.

For more info:
http://www.historynet.com/mr-stewart-goes-to-war.htm
http://www.historynet.com/mr-stewart-goes-to-vietnam.htm

* In 1985, President Reagan presented Stewart with the Presidential Medal of Freedom and also promoted him to Major General (two star) on the retired USAF lists.
 
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NorwichDad

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I talked to my son yesterday about it. He is in NJ Guard now. He always like the greens but they present the soldiers with a big problem. A lot of times you may go from an office environement to cleaning weapons and machinery or to the field. The ACUs allow you to go back and forth. They can get dirty and be washed easily. It would take the same 10 years to change it that it took to eliminate them. The cost is also a problem. While enlisted get allowance it does not allways cover medals and ribbons which are required. It is also a very duanting figure to refit the whole Army. Probably better to spend on training and equipment. It can really add up for the Army and its families. Another problem he sees is that the ACUs are incredibly expensive in of themselves. They are really junkie pajamas that start at $80. Also that is before patches and ribbons. That is absurb what they charge for ACUs. They should cost about $30 a set.

That said he still always loved the old uniforms.
 

UHBlackhawk

Member
Yes, he retired as a brigadier general in the USAF Reserve.* He flew on a single B-52 mission over Viet Nam as an observer, not command pilot. I don't know about Korea.

In addition to his WW-II experience with the B-17 and B-24, he was command pilot qualified during the Cold War in the B-36, B-47 and the B-52.

He refused to play in war movies because he felt that they would not depict combat accurately. (Strategic Air Command was a rare exception.) He suffered from PTSD as well, having written many letters to families of fallen crewmembers of his bomb group, as well as having narrowly dodged flak bursts.

He was also a Gold Star parent as his stepson, 1st Lt. Ron McLean was a Marine platoon leader who died in combat in Viet Nam.

For more info:
http://www.historynet.com/mr-stewart-goes-to-war.htm
http://www.historynet.com/mr-stewart-goes-to-vietnam.htm

* In 1985, President Reagan presented Stewart with the Presidential Medal of Freedom and also promoted him to Major General (two star) on the retired USAF lists.
One exception to his stance against making war movies. "The Mountain Road".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Road
 

AROTC-dad

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One exception to his stance against making war movies. "The Mountain Road".
Wow...nice find, good knowledge!
This film was made in 1960 whereas, "Strategic Air Command" was released five years earlier (1955). Perhaps he changed his feelings about some films after that.

A good recent book on Stewart's military career is "Mission: Jimmy Stewart and the Fight for Europe" by Robert Matzen (2016).
 
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UHBlackhawk

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Wow...nice find, good knowledge!
This film was made in 1960 whereas, "Strategic Air Command" was released five years earlier (1955). Perhaps he changed his feelings about some films after that.

A good recent book on Stewart's military career is "Mission: Jimmy Stewart and the Fight for Europe" by Robert Matzen (2016).
My understanding is that he agreed to do the film because it did not glorify war and dealt with some of the difficult moral conflicts one faces in combat.
 

conrack

Member
It was "The High Mountain Road". So the Army gets rid of the green Class As saying they have too many uniforms which cost too much to purchase yet they bring out yet another fatigue uniform and now a new Class A. Has to be a government operation.
 
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