Something from facebook...but oh so true..

ERAUMattmom

ERAUMattmom

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UNEXPLAINABLE, INEXCUSABLE

I challenge you to read this and NOT have the will to click share.

No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, and only get 50% of their pay. While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women, and receive full pay retirement after serving one term. It just does not make any sense.

If each person that reads this will click share, in three days, most people in the United States of America will have the message.. This is one proposal that really should be passed around.

Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States ."
 
"Only 50% of their pay"? Surely this is a joke? The military retirement plan is a phenomenally good deal that the average American dreams of. I have been drawing "only" 50% of my pay for 15 years and assuming that I manage to live to the norm- I will continue to do so for another 25 years or so- after having had college paid for, 2 masters degrees paid for, drew a good salary (a huge chunk of which was tax free) for more than 20 years and entered the work force with a very good resume thanks to Uncle Sam- still young enough to get a very well paying job and have a full corporate career (and have the option to not use my corporate medical insurance if I choose thanks to Tricare) and build yet another retirement plan. And that's the reality for most military retirees. Yet somebody on facebook thinks that is not enough???? Forget what the 535 bozos on Capitol Hill get for a retirement plan- Truly I can imagine no circumstances where a thoughtful military member would express this without coming across as having the most outrageous sense of entitlement compared to their peers in virtually every other civilian job.
 
bruno said:
"Only 50% of their pay"? Surely this is a joke? The military retirement plan is a phenomenally good deal that the average American dreams of. I have been drawing "only" 50% of my pay for 15 years and assuming that I manage to live to the norm- I will continue to do so for another 25 years or so- after having had college paid for, 2 masters degrees paid for, drew a good salary (a huge chunk of which was tax free) for more than 20 years and entered the work force with a very good resume thanks to Uncle Sam- still young enough to get a very well paying job and have a full corporate career (and have the option to not use my corporate medical insurance if I choose thanks to Tricare) and build yet another retirement plan. And that's the reality for most military retirees. Yet somebody on facebook thinks that is not enough???? Forget what the 535 bozos on Capitol Hill get for a retirement plan- Truly I can imagine no circumstances where a thoughtful military member would express this without coming across as having the most outrageous sense of entitlement compared to their peers in virtually every other civilian job.
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There you go again, being all gracious and logical.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
UNEXPLAINABLE, INEXCUSABLE

I challenge you to read this and NOT have the will to click share.

No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, and only get 50% of their pay. While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women, and receive full pay retirement after serving one term. It just does not make any sense.

If each person that reads this will click share, in three days, most people in the United States of America will have the message.. This is one proposal that really should be passed around.

Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States ."
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Go stand in the mirror and yell at yourself for posting this drivel.
 
ERAUMattmom said:
UNEXPLAINABLE, INEXCUSABLE

This is one proposal that really should be passed around.

Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States ."
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Not so fast!

Let's see, do we ban the franking privilege or put the US Post Office out of business because all mail is now free?

Give me a few hours and I could probably think of a whole host of other privileges granted to members of congress that would not be appropriate for all to have.

I agree that for the performance our congress gives they shouldn't be given a plug nickel for a pension, but let's not have our disgust with how our representatives perform their job lead us in a knee-jerk reaction.

If your read about the history of congressional pensions, they were invented to try to pry out older MOCs who were there for the salary after WW2 and get some fresh young ideas in from those who had served overseas during the war. Unfortunately, pensions have evolved into an entitlement program that needs to be reviewed and yes, made equivalent to those available to other federal employees.
 
Actually, members of Congress don't get "a full retirement/salary" after one term...that's internet lore.

They are, for the most part, under FERS...and you can go online and figure out what their salary will be for retirement; it's based upon years of service, positions held, etc...etc..

My congressman told me at his 10 year point, that if he "left" he'd have to wait until he was 56 to draw his pension and it'd be about $1000 a month.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
flieger83 said:
My congressman told me at his 10 year point, that if he "left" he'd have to wait until he was 56 to draw his pension and it'd be about $1000 a month.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
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Totally agree with Scout, but call your Congressman and ask how much of his excess campaign treasury he is allowed to keep. I believe it is 100%. I hope to hell I'm wrong.
 
cb7893 said:
Totally agree with Scout, but call your Congressman and ask how much of his excess campaign treasury he is allowed to keep. I believe it is 100%. I hope to hell I'm wrong.
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I think years ago that was correct but I also think that was changed several years ago (and a LOT of MOC's retired).

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
ERAUMattmom said:
No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom, and only get 50% of their pay. While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women, and receive full pay retirement after serving one term.
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Someone just did, his name is "flieiger83" and he explained that your premise is false.

ERAUMattmom said:
It just does not make any sense.
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Nonsensical internet rumors, passed along via email or Facebook, rarely do.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp
 
There are few better deals than the 20 year retirement. I know 0 retirees at 40 years of age in the private sector.
 
I hope Flieger83 ( and others) are correct. I would hate to think a half term senator like Scott Brown was getting the same benefits as Richard Lugar serving 35 years? In the case of the later I am okay with it :thumb:
 
Lynpar said:
I hope Flieger83 ( and others) are correct. I would hate to think a half term senator like Scott Brown was getting the same benefits as Richard Lugar serving 35 years? In the case of the later I am okay with it :thumb:
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Yeah, they don't get the same stuff, info compliments of my church friend who is married to a retired Congressman.
 
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