Sorry I've been out for a while

Poor Marines. They probably had never encountered a wife who was unable to defend herself.
 
Mombee there is another part of the story. So here it goes.

The Marines had a couple of females. The AF got on the crud table after they finished with that lovely ref. My friend (Bruno's wife), another wife (callsign Trash Can) and I played with the guys. The Marines approached our DHs and asked if "you mind we play with your wives?" they added the clarification it was the females from their group. Our DH's said ask them! We agreed, thinking it was good camarderie. We set it up 3 V 3. There was an arguement of who would ref, it was decided that a 16 pilot would since they were not in our squadron, and a single seater like the Marines.

They lost the lag, we opted to receive, as Bruno's wife was waiting to receive before the lagger was off the table she was hip checked across the room. They Lose a life. Trash can's wife serves and I come up to block, the Marine elbowed me in the face. Loss of life on her, as I am walking around the table to get to the serving position, she comes full barrel down on me because she lost a life and chucks me against the bar/counter pinning me under it while throwing punches.(nothing was said to provoke her). Not my proudest moment, but I will admit that I started to hit her to get me off. The Marines (the guys) jumped in and pulled her off of me, (Bullet, Bruno and Trashcan were further away...if you have never seen a crud room then I can't explain it because it is to difficult to describe how it is set up in a club on an internet forum)

For the next 30 minutes I swear Marines were walking up to me and apologizing for their behavior as Marines and Officers. To this day I hold no negative opinion, because they were officers and gentlemen.

Now let's fast foward, I am sitting with the Marines who came and apologized for this 1st Lt. behavior. Bullet,and Bruno are smoking cigars in the corner, the Trashcans left.
Their ranking officer walks up to the area, and says to me " I hope you learned your lesson!" (This is the guy that put parts of his anatomy on the table to make calls).
AS a CAPT's wife, I respected his rank, and said "excuse me sir"
He replies "You are a wife you had no business playing our Marines"
I reply " You approached us"
He goes on a speal that I don't really remember except it was full of insults.
I turn to him and say " Sir, it was nice to meet you!" and start a new conversation with the other Marines
He responds "are you dismissing me?"
I said " No Sir, I am a wife I could never dismiss you, but it has been nice to meet you"
He replies "B*tch shut your PIE WHOLE" and then raises his hand at me to slap me.

That is when I screamed Bullet and he saw a field grade officer drunk as a skunk trying to physically attack me.

I had bruises on my body and face from the female Marine who hit me, and without Bullet, Bruno or Tony to this day I don't know if I would have been harmed. It was not the Marines finest hour regarding her or him, but it was their finest apologizing for the behavior of their brethren. The guy was drunk, and I will always give him a pass. However, if I wasn't a military wife and understand the crud bar rules I wouldn't.

Please don't make a comment like you did without knowing the real facts
Poor Marines. They probably had never encountered a wife who was unable to defend herself

If it was meant to be a joke and not an insult it fell flat.

There is a poster who learned how to play REAL crud because DS an I taught him. Je has played it with me and he will tell you I can hold my own with the best of them. I believe if memory serves me right, he died before me and I was single WOMAN against his team of 3 guys with only 5 or 6 lives, while I had 2 livee. My team was all fighter guys, no girls. I LOST, but it did come down to 2 guys with 1 life ea and me with 1 life. I take pride in my crud playing skills. I play fair and have never attacked physically any opponent ...off the table :shake: I also never play on female only teams because I was taught by the guys and throwing bodies, planting is fair game...give way means hip checking and not politely asking to move :rolleyes: before you pretend to do the BUMP (1980's disco dance like the hustle) when hitting them on the hip
 
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I can't touch this one, I'm in no position to judge.

I will only say that Marines can play rough, and sometimes they don't realize how rough. I remember in Oki we used to box and wrestle each other, and more than once we ended up with someone getting a broken bone, or dislocated shoulder. In fact, I remember throwing my best friend once and dislocated his shoulder. That was a hard one to explain.

I never had much exposure to the AF, but the one occasion that I did, at Kadena, we ended up with a couple of AF's giving a Marine a hard time at a base club. What they didn't realize was the Marine was waiting for a MAC flight home, his wife had passed in a car crash. Needless to say, I had to go there to get him out of the brig after he lost it on both of them pretty bad.

When there is alcohol involved, and services that don't typically mix much, and then add spouses of one service mixing with active duty of another service, there are many areas that it can go wrong.

I'm sure Mom was joking as part of an inter service rivalry thing, I almost did it myself. But instead of Marines aren't used to wife who can't defend themselves..... I almost wrote, Most Marines are used to having to defend themselves against the other services wives... but then I chose not to go there.... does this mean that I actually went there???:smile::smile::smile:

JB
 
I almost wrote, Most Marines are used to having to defend themselves against the other services wives

I would have chuckled and slammed back, that's because the wives don't go to the O'Club:shake:

I also do agree that when alcohol is involved it never ends up pretty, that is why I stated multiple times he was drunk as a skunk, because IMHO if he saw me at the club for lunch on Monday, he would not remember me and allow me to skip in front of him, he would hand me a tray and say no problem MAM while I cut in front of him. That is typically how I have experienced the lunch lines at the club. They of course would allow Bullet to cut 5 minutes later when he met up with me, and he would not remember him either! I am positive he was a good guy that is ugly when he has too much booze. Lesson to the younguns, when you finally get able to drink realize how you act under the influence can damage your career as quickly as reporting at 8:30 when you were due to report at 8:00. Many people no longer go to the club out of fear that the commander is judging them. TWO HINTS:
1. The ones that judge are gone by 7, so don't be an arse until he leaves
2. The ones that remain are usually the ones somebody is pouring into their car after last call, so he won't remember either.

Check out an O'CLub (at least an AF) after a promotion/retirement party or a first friday, the lot still has cars on Sunday sitting there! 1st Friday is payday weekend, his/her car stays until SUnday when you go commissary shopping! Bullet retired on Friday and Sun a.m we had to go back and pick up his car. We did the count they had 21 still in the lot

I don't care what service anyone is in, even those that are drunk are better than the majority of our society!

I also can't tell you how many times Bullet was teased when he jumped with the 82nd as the only AF officer, ot at Leavenworth for CGSC. All we heard was you make base + a million $$$ in flight pay. It finally got to a point he turned to them and said It's not my fault I chose wisely Indiana Jones!:shake:
 
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Hey JB, just wondering if the chucklehead in the Mercedes wasn't a Pinky operative! Jezz! find the damn brake!

I'm very sorry to hear that your daughter was D'Qed for eyesight. I know how discouraging it is to miss the appointment. I'm equally happy that she found PLC. My son was twice triple Q'ed with nom and missed the appointment. He's loving the civillian college thing and just completed PLC Juniors on 2 July. He loved it! Yeah, I know, I'm worried about "loved it" part myself! He is determined to to finish Seniors and take the oath in 2011. He gave some thought to changing to an Air Contract but is very serious about going 203.

Good luck to your daughter. OCS is very hard on the female Candidates. They are required to perform all of the same challenges as the male Candidates. The female platoon was reduced by more than half, mostly injury, by the end of the six weeks. It's a very tough program.

Oh, I'm dittos with tpg. Anything you need to fight the fight!
 
I no can type! Should be 302 not 203. Too much time at crush depth!
 
But again as a parent you just want to say……”couldn’t you find something else’…..

My personal selections are:

3404-Comptroller
0402-Logistics and,
0180-Adjutant

Of course, none entail boots and utes with "Battle Rattle".

I told him I'd pay for an extra pair of Service Charlies if he got a desk job!

It's still two years and competition for MOS at TBS. He might still get one of those "shinny pants" jobs!
 
Hey JB, just wondering if the chucklehead in the Mercedes wasn't a Pinky operative! Jezz! find the damn brake!

I'm very sorry to hear that your daughter was D'Qed for eyesight. I know how discouraging it is to miss the appointment. I'm equally happy that she found PLC. My son was twice triple Q'ed with nom and missed the appointment. He's loving the civillian college thing and just completed PLC Juniors on 2 July. He loved it! Yeah, I know, I'm worried about "loved it" part myself! He is determined to to finish Seniors and take the oath in 2011. He gave some thought to changing to an Air Contract but is very serious about going 203.

Good luck to your daughter. OCS is very hard on the female Candidates. They are required to perform all of the same challenges as the male Candidates. The female platoon was reduced by more than half, mostly injury, by the end of the six weeks. It's a very tough program.

Oh, I'm dittos with tpg. Anything you need to fight the fight!


No, she was just your stereotypical bad driver from an un-named far east location, un-named so that I don't sound racist.:smile::smile::smile:
When she hit me, she pickup my rear wheel by coming up under the saddlebag and I tried to pull away, but with the rear wheel up, all I could do is go for a ride. She stopped about 100' later when I finally went down. About 5K in damage to the bike, but it's all cosmetic. I get back in about a week.

Sounds great about your son. My brother was a subsquid by the way. Retired in 98 I think. Might have been 97 or 99, but I'm thinking 98.

She's working out with the Marines 3 days a week right now, and hasn't started her freshman year yet, so I'm pretty sure she'll be ready. There is an LT. who is there on PTAD, just graduated from OCS and she's keeping up with him.

If you guys are in the area ever, let me know and we'll coordinate showing some support to the USMC right there in the enemy territory.

JB
 
Sounds like me....
I understand and hear you…..My daughter has her eyes set on 1302; Combat Engineer Officer. I on the other hand would be more than willing to pay for those nice shiny exotic uniforms from “The Marine Shop” if it kept her out of the zone of fire so to speak…..I guess that comes from A) being a parent and B) having “been there done that, got the t-shirts and scars to prove it”

Mine has her heart on 2757 (French Linguist) or 2712 (Arabic Linguist) with a primary MOS of 0210 (Human Intelligence).

She took the placement test for 2757 and placed at an advanced level (highest you can get), but for Arabic she's on her second year and has some work to do. My mom is French and she's spent every summer for as long as we can recall in France, so she's about as fluent as fluent can be. She even writes poetry and some more advanced things like that.

She's pretty excited about the PLC program because though she fell in love with USNA, I think she is starting to realize she has a better chance at achieving her end game (MOS) thru PLC.

JB
 
Code Pink in Texas?

All I can say to jbrown's story is WOW. Thank you not only for your service, but your perserverance.

I believed the conservative safety of west Texas would protect my family from the "crazies" we hear about on TV. However, last evening at Wal-Mart I got a taste of the same.

I was loading groceries into the passenger side of DS's Suburban ( he inherited my old ride!) with a few groceries. I actually was out getting powered gatorade, nuts, etc for care package for plebe summer. He had bumper stickers on back: "McCain/Palin" "USNA 2013" and "GO NAVY/BEAT ARMY." So, this gal pulls up behind the Conservaburban and begins shrieking at me "You must love WAR, B****!! You must really love War." And on and on and on. I mean she was getting after it. Shrieking.

I was shocked. Took me a minute to figure out what she was saying and why. She raced off, but not before I noticed two small children in the car (no seatbelts or car seats). I walked my cart back to the entry of WM, just to catch my breath and calm down before I left. I watched her circle the parking lot twice. I was definitely watching my rearview as I drove south out of town toward home.

I think there is a reason I do not have a concealed carry license. I'm not sure I have the restraint necessary!

I have boundless admiration for all of you who have served our country. I know you have all experienced such craziness at times. Imagine, any of us with children/spouses/other family in the military LOVING war. It is our loved ones who defend the rights of such morons to say what they want! Our loved ones who are in harm's way.

My older son, who is considering Army vet service, said "Mom, I am sorry you had to hear that. But look at it this way. It was like a little vacation to California without the expense!" I had to laugh.

To those of you who not only serve, but must face such bizarre and ungrateful behavior, you have my total respect.
 
My older son, who is considering Army vet service, said "Mom, I am sorry you had to hear that. But look at it this way. It was like a little vacation to California without the expense!" I had to laugh.

I wish I could claim I came up with that line. Too funny! :thumb:
 
That was a good one. I just finished reading Jenny's email out loud and my wife and daughter and a couple of her friends busted up.

We often refer to Ca. as the land of fruits and nuts. And trust me we are "NOT" talking about all of the fruit and nut orchards out in the central valley.

Jenny - thanks for the kind words of support. I occassionaly get a few responses from my "don't blame me, I didn't vote for the socialist" bumper sticker.

JB
 
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I never experienced anything quite that extreme, but it was definintely disconcerting at times to be walking around the University of Washington campus in uniform every Tuesday. Most of the younger students were pretty indifferent, but the nasty looks and occasional jeers came more from the older people and professors on campus. I recall one week I had to walk by this table staffed by some men of 'foreign descent' with pamphlets titled "Understanding Jihad"...there was no way to avoid it as it was right in front of the HUB...to say that they glared at my uniform would be an understatement...

Clark Hall, the ROTC building, like many others had been fire-bombed back in the early 70s. In the attic where we stored all our gear, you could still see charred brick everywhere. I read a former mid's interview with the CO then, about how he physically grappled with a protestor armed with a chain the night of the fire. Pretty intense back then
 
Code Pink - Update

So these wack jobs are still at it.

They've recently posted that they have been challenged to a debate against me. Which of course is not true. Perhaps they think if they put it in writing, it must be true, and therfore must happen. Crazy, Crazy People.

Here is that posting in case you guys need a good laugh.: http://codepinkjournals.blogspot.com/2009/07/codepink-vs-code-brown.html

JB
 
Go get em JB. :thumb: I only wish I could be there with you and see that debate. I came back through Travis and SFO in Class A uniform and as General Schwarzkopf once said "Nobody was going to spit at me. Nobody!" I would have gladly taken the jail time but they just waived signs. That was the extent of their physical participation defending their constitutional rights.
 
Go get em JB. :thumb: I only wish I could be there with you and see that debate. I came back through Travis and SFO in Class A uniform and as General Schwarzkopf once said "Nobody was going to spit at me. Nobody!" I would have gladly taken the jail time but they just waived signs. That was the extent of their physical participation defending their constitutional rights.

That's the funny thing though, I never called them and asked for a debate. It seems they are making it up for a variety of reasons. (1) when I don't show they can claim I'm afraid of them and backed down or (2) maybe this is their way of trying to pressure me into debating them.

Crazies...
 
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