Speed of the AROTC Processs

I hear you about the tiring part of the whole "off-season" process. And with 2 service ROTC plus a SA - wow! The paperwork must be overwhelming.

At this point, we are only AROTC because only 2 D3 womens hockey schools have AFROTC and 1 has NROTC (same as 1 of the AFROTC schools). And both of those schools have AROTC. Plus her intended field(s) of study are not in the Engineering/Math/Hard Sciences world and her overall academic profile is not as competitive as many, making it a long shot. Yeah, she might get another service ROTC, but it doesn't increase the potential for places to play, nor chances of a scholarship. And her military career goals do not include flying or being at sea, so the Army can satisfy her needs.

In our situation, it is the driving that exhausts me. Basically we live about 1000 miles from goaliegirl's school, the hockey camp/tournament she went to this summer, the school touring trip we just got back from. So far this summer I've only drive 10K miles. You get the idea. And next week when goaliegirl and my wife head off to visit with my wife's sisters, I get to puppysit my in-laws 3-month-old Brittany, as my mother-in-law just had an accident tripping over the puppy and is bed-ridden for a couple of weeks with my father-in-law looking after her.

When they get home, we will begin the school application process. About 1/2 of her schools use the common app, but the long essay can be used on all of her applications. I'm not too worried about acceptances, though. Fortunately, none of her schools are highly competitive and she is at least in the middle 50% at all schools with regards to grades and ACT/SAT scores. Add in a 3-sport varsity athlete and you generally get an acceptance. And most of her schools are also rolling admissions.

Speaking of DoDMERB, how long of a delay did you have between the "get your interview" notification and getting your packet from Concorde? Our next logistical challenge is getting her in for the physical before Labor Day. Otherwise, she is 1000 miles from us, making it a wee bit difficult to get her to the facility.

And you bring up the no-ROTC safety option. A truly difficult subject. If hockey is still in the picture, there are a couple of schools on the list where we might still be OK financially, but we'd definitely need to add a couple of more hockey type schools. I can think of 2 that we could add that we could swing financially. Goaliegirl has seen both schools, so I know they would be OK. If hockey is not an option (say a year-long injury), then we have some local financial and academic safeties where she can cool her jets while she recovers and transfer later.

Color coding the cells is also a good idea. I was thinking Red/Yellow/Green where Red is an unfavorable characteristic (unsatisfactory town, another incoming goalie, etc.); Yellow is an unknown or unanswered characteristic (one school is a new hockey program); Green would be a favorable characteristic (All considered academic majors/minors, R&B supplement, etc.).

I don't think any school will be all green, but if she decides to order her characteristics by priorities, seeing a lot of red at the top will help to move those schools down the list.
 
Yes, thr color coding helps flag the good and the bad. We did shades of green, purple and blue I believe. Whatever wasn't shaded was a 'no'.

It would be difficult to throw in a sport into this mix. And, the Army does let you take almost any major, which is nice.

AROTC still hasn't uploaded son's name into the DoDMERB system. The letter confirming his application to ROTC said we should hear from them within 6 week.....2 to go. But, since he applied to summer sessions at the SA's he was already to go. He received that letter in June and we were able to get his appointment on the one of only 2 days he was home during the summer. Just received notice online that a remedial is requested and I'm basically freaking out right now. Son is still in CHina until Aug 8 and we don't know yet what the remedial is for. I know that we got the DoDMERB done early just for this reason, but I still don't like it! :redface:

Have you already started the online ROTC application process? That would trigger the DoDMERB letter to come within 6 weeks, supposedly. If that doesn't trigger it, then send everything in except the height/weight verification...maybe that'll trigger it. Put the 7 schools on the list and I'm sure you can rearrange them later. Son was able to get back in the file online and make changes...just emailed ROTC to let them know.

The back up back up plan is no fun to think about but we're taking care of it. Good luck...it sounds like your daughter has a great future ahead of her!!
 
The online process was done and she received the "Ok to get your PMS interview" email at the beginning of last week. So, from what you are saying, we should hear from them within 5 weeks.... That is the last week of August. That is going to be tight, because we head north at Labor Day to drop her at school. Hopefully they will be faster at this time of year.

I'm waiting for a call back from her school to see where the transcript request is. We actually sent that to the school a couple of weeks before submitting the online request because we know the school works slowly during the summer.

She put 7 schools on her list in an order based upon current goalie situations based upon last year's rosters. All 7 were in different units, with the 7th being a school where a couple of goalies would have to transfer out for her to consider the school. The others are legit situations. She'll rearrange the list online as she visits more schools, hence the desire to wait for the end of October to get on the November board. But if none of the units fill early (my suspicion), it won't matter what order the top 5 are in, because she should be offered all 5 units. And once she picks a school, it is my understanding that she can use the scholarship at any school in the unit without going through Cadet Command - only the PMS at the Unit.
 
Okay...I think I get it now... the 5 schools would all be in the same battallion with one PMS. I'm sure that would be easier to get the scholarship transferred since the spot is already filled in that battallion...by her! Do any of them have rolling admissions?
 
singaporemom said:
Okay...I think I get it now... the 5 schools would all be in the same battallion with one PMS. I'm sure that would be easier to get the scholarship transferred since the spot is already filled in that battallion...by her! Do any of them have rolling admissions?
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I think only 1 is NOT a rolling admissions school. We may have acceptance letters in hand before we have to decide. Really the hockey is the holdup.

And the actual distribution is 3 schools in each of two different batallions, 2 in a 3rd batallion and the rest are individual schools in different batallions. She selected one school from each of the 3 multi-school batallions. Add in 4 schools in 4 more batallions and you have her 7 school choices. I think all 3 multi-school batallions are in her top 5 choices.

So, if she decides on a school from one of the multi-school batallions, there is an easier change within the batallion available should something significant change hockeywise. And if worse comes to worst, in April or May when they send out the last chance letter, it would appear that we can change to one of the schools in another previously offered batallions (space available).

Not a 100% perfect chance of dealing with all possible outcomes, but I believe there are enough acceptable options on her list that she will find a happy situation.
 
OK,

Now I am going to need to hear from others on how to interpret the letter that just came in the mail to goaliegirl today...

Dear Goaliegirl,

Your application fo an Army ROTC 4-year scholarship has been received We have reviewed your application and the items below are either missing or incomplete. We must have these items, documents, and/or scores in order to forward a complete application to the scholarship sleection board.

> Copy of your high school transcript (legible photocopy, fax'd, or scanned)
> Copy of your SAT and/or ACT score (screen shot from the testing agency's website, copy of the scores you received in the mail, or designate Army ROTC as one of the choices to receive scores).
> Personal Statement blank on the application.
> Scores from your Presidential Fitness Test.
> Results of your Official Interview.

Please respond no later than 15 days from the date you receive this notice. An incomplete application may result in your application not being considered by the Scholarship Selection Board. If you are no longer interested in being considered for an Army ROTC 4-year scholarship, please contact your scholarship applicaiton point of contact below.

If you feel you have already provided the items requested above or have any questions about what is needed to complete your scholarship application, then please contact your individual point of contact, Yvette Maynard, at <intentionally left out by goaliedad> To access an automated status of your application please call <also left out by goaliedad> or online at https://schlr4yr.usarmyrotc.com/scholarshipstatus.
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1) Not sure why they didnt' get the Personal Statement. Isn't that the longer of the 2 text sections on the electronic application? Goaliegirl is out right now, we'll look at her online application to see if it mysteriously disappeared. Has anyone else had this message?

2) Why are the requesting a response within 15 days? I could imagine that people go on vacation for more than that length of time (singaporemom's son?). Hopefully this isn't a deadline to receive all of the above. Any idea of what happens if you miss that deadline?

3) I noticed that it didn't indicate a height/weight verification from a school nurse, as my email reply I mentioned earlier in this thread did request it. I'm certain they haven't received it. Any thoughts or experiences?

I called her school and left a message requesting they check on our previous request for transcripts (I did this request a month ago, so perhaps the Army got it before the electronic application was processed). Her school records office is often slow during the summer, as there are conferences to attend and vacations to take.

Anyone have thoughts???
 
We got a similar letter, dated July 17, checked online and the personal statement is not blank. I put his essay into a word doc in case it disappears! And, the transcript was sent in with all the other forms via fedex, so I know they got it......BUT just got an email dated 7/24 that the only thing missing was the interview and Fitness test (Which is the correct status) Only the initial letter talked about the height weight verification.

I emailed back to debra conyers today, but didn't hear back. We've sent everything in except interview and fitness test. Son's not here, so I'm the secretary until he returns in August!:redface:
 
....and I think they just put the 15 day thing in there to speed you along...maybe because they 'think' the personal statement is missing. But, an email to cadet command would not hurt.
 
Welcome to Army efficiency! Being that I served in the Armed Forces myself, I knew to duplicate everything in case it was "lost". Last year, my son's high school college counselor sent all the required documents from his school within two days of my requesting it (small, private school). I told him not to be surprised if they misplace something. Sure enough, we got a letter similar to your daughter's saying they hadn't received his high school transcript. I let the counselor know and he then re-mailed it, faxed it AND emailed it to Cadet Command. It got to the intended destination the second time.

You can try re-submitting the personal statement online, but you might also mail, email or fax them a hard copy.

I know they expect you to act much faster than they do (ie. the 15 day request), but I would do your best to comply with the time frame. There will probably be no serious repercussions if you are later than that, but why chance it. I would also email your daughter's Point of Contact at Cadet Command a few days after you resend everything to verify he/she got them.
 
I did notice the email option and I think we will use it for SAT/ACT test scores (scanners are wonderful things) and pass the email address onto the school so they can email copies of her transcripts (and carbon copy us to validate). I received a scanned copy (marked unofficial) earlier this summer from her school when I asked them who to send my request to, so I'm sure they can send it to the Army.

We'll have to ask for more time on the interview and particularly the Presidential Physical Fitness test, as she won't be back at school until after Labor Day. I think they are looking for the contact to make sure they have your attention, but keeping them engaged is a good idea.

Thanks.

Any thoughts on the height/weight validation being missing? I was thinking of perhaps having her taped by her physician's office instead (he is retired Navy).
 
With my older son, we took the initial letter to the nurse at school and she crossed out the stated height weight and put in the actual...he had grown and inch and gained a pound or two. Then she initialed the piece of paper and stamped it and we sent it to cadet command with the activities sheet, initialed and stamped by the counselor. We didn't want to do anything different than was asked.
 
update to application status with cadet command. Our most recent email was correct. Son only has fitness test and interview left to complete. There must have been an error in the last letter they sent.
 
singaporemom said:
update to application status with cadet command. Our most recent email was correct. Son only has fitness test and interview left to complete. There must have been an error in the last letter they sent.
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Hopefully goaliegirl will have gotten the same email clearing up the missing statement. She is out of town right now with relatives.
 
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