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Anne Applebaum — The Russian Empire Must Die

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The Russian Empire Must Die

A better future requires Putin’s defeat—and the end to imperial aspirations.
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The Russian answer, marching down the equivalent of Pennsylvania or Constitution Avenues in Moscow. It's difficult to get those permits.

 
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“ Opposition to Russian aggression has helped Poles and Ukrainians put bitter 20th-century history behind them …”

In eastern Poland, Putin’s war has turned former enemies into friends | Ukraine | The Guardian

Opposition to Russian aggression has helped Poles and Ukrainians put bitter 20th-century history behind them
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… “Some say our region is at the very end of the world; others say it is at the very beginning. It depends which way you are looking,” said Grzegorz Drewnik, mayor of a group of villages including Przewodów. “Now we are at the centre of global media attention. Though two people being killed is not a reason to be proud of.” …
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… Enjoy 🥸
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The Future of American Warfare Is Unfolding in Ukraine

Aid to Ukrainian forces is achieving more than the long U.S. intervention in Afghanistan did.
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“ …. The differences between America’s roles in Ukraine and Afghanistan suggest a rule for the future: The United States should avoid direct fighting overseas to the extent possible and should intervene in wars only to support peoples and nations that want to fight for themselves. Ukrainians have fought for their country with tenacity and skill, mastered complex weapons systems at their own initiative, and maintained high morale. The U.S. is aiding them, but it is the Ukrainians—everyday soldiers, senior generals, civilians under bombardment, top government officials, and diplomats marshaling international support—who are ultimately determining their own fate. ….”
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Time is on Ukraines Side … enjoy

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Time Is on Ukraine’s Side, Not Russia’s

The Ukrainians will win if they keep getting better weapons.
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I could not get past the paywall.

I am curious if author as any idea the lengths to which the Russian government will go to erase the Ukrainian National Identity. Nor do I think he has any idea about the depth of support for the War among Russians or the indifference of those Russian who don't support it.


Or the complicity of American Commentators, both left and right.


Maybe he has forgotten or was never aware of Maria Butina. Yes the same.

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Ex-NATO commander says West sending Ukraine tanks ‘creates real problems for Putin’

Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander James Stavridis said the West sending tanks to Ukraine to provide additional aid in its war with Russia “creates real problems” for Russian President Vladimir P…
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[Stavridis] “With these tanks, the Ukrainians can mask that armor and use it to punch through the Russian line, separate them, peel them apart, break the logistics chain,” he said.

He also noted that transfers of the tanks mark a “pivotal” moment in the land war and will be a “bad day” for Putin with the conflict itself and in seeing the West’s unity.

“It’s a strong political and diplomatic signal, and as I said earlier, it’s a very important military step for the alliance,” Stavridis said.
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It will be interesting to see how long US resolve lasts. We made lots of promises to SVN at one time.

National political leaders have already attacked the sending of tanks to the Ukraine as a major mistake. One they would not have made if they were in power.

Other national political leaders are complaining about how much we are spending to help Ukraine.

One call already from a national political official and personality to impeach Biden for making the trip to Ukraine.

Will be interesting to see how long our resolve lasts
 
This is just money, VN was people. I think money is cheap these days, now that we've more or less stopped worrying about paying it back.
 
We have effectively allied the country with the biggest land mass and natural gas reserves on the planet, with the country having the greatest population on the planet.

I couldn't have precipitated the start of World War III any better.
 
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We have effectively allied the country with the biggest land mass and natural gas reserves on the planet, with the country having the greatest population on the planet and Iran, North Korea, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Belarus, Syria, Cuba, and Eritrea.
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Their combined GDP, including China's, is less than a third of NATO/EU, Japan, South Korea and Australia, but I'm sure some of those folks would be happy to get in on the pillaging.

 
THParent said:
We have effectively allied the country with the biggest land mass and natural gas reserves on the planet, with the country having the greatest population on the planet.

I couldn't have precipitated the start of World War III any better.
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Definitely concerning. But what should have we done to prevent that alliance? It's natural that the autocracies would align.

NATO can handle Russia with one hand tied behind it back. It is not worth it to the US to go to war over Taiwan, so we need to deter it. I don't see WWIII happening if we use good diplomacy
 
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Definitely concerning. But what should have we done to prevent that alliance? It's natural that the autocracies would align.

NATO can handle Russia with one hand tied behind it back. It is not worth it to the US to go to war over Taiwan, so we need to deter it. I don't see WWIII happening if we use good diplomacy
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Said every country prior to WWI
 
Yesterday, Janet Yellen said "Let me make clear The United States, um, and the allies, uh, our support for Ukraine will be lasting and is unconditional..."

In my lifetime, I cannot recall the USA pledging unconditional support for any country - including any of our allies - much less a corrupt regime like Ukraine. She also lumped our allies in there as well. Have we asked them? Is their support (as she suggests) unconditional as well?

For that matter, I have never heard a foreign policy statement come from a Treasury Secretary before. Considering how much money is flowing out of the unconditional support fire hose, I should not be surprised.
 
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Yesterday, Janet Yellen said "Let me make clear The United States, um, and the allies, uh, our support for Ukraine will be lasting and is unconditional..."

In my lifetime, I cannot recall the USA pledging unconditional support for any country - including any of our allies - much less a corrupt regime like Ukraine. She also lumped our allies in there as well. Have we asked them? Is their support (as she suggests) unconditional as well?

For that matter, I have never heard a foreign policy statement come from a Treasury Secretary before. Considering how much money is flowing out of the unconditional support fire hose, I should not be surprised.
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I don’t care what Yellen has to say … she’s out of here soon anyway. We’re going to keep it up until the Evil one at the Kremlin is gone … job done.

It’s not like they need F35s and so on and such … they’re fighting for all of us “On the Cheap” …. My brothers and sisters in Poland won’t have any of it … you don’t back down anymore to that Evil.

Our intelligence will win this thing … that A$$hole in the Kremlin has got to go … and that Belarus A$$hole too.

All the short bus ******* on the far right have got to go too (Gaetz, Greene, Boebert, …) When Armed Services ranking member Republican Mike Rogers of Alabama went after Gaetz on the house floor for holding up McCarthy’s speakership … that pretty much says it all in terms of the frustration and disgust for Looney toons in the Republican Party, which I myself belong to …. Even more, Rogers was held from sensitive intelligence meetings for over a week because of the wacko charade on the house floor.
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Yesterday, Janet Yellen said "Let me make clear The United States, um, and the allies, uh, our support for Ukraine will be lasting and is unconditional..."

In my lifetime, I cannot recall the USA pledging unconditional support for any country - including any of our allies - much less a corrupt regime like Ukraine. She also lumped our allies in there as well. Have we asked them? Is their support (as she suggests) unconditional as well?

For that matter, I have never heard a foreign policy statement come from a Treasury Secretary before. Considering how much money is flowing out of the unconditional support fire hose, I should not be surprised.
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I think you forgot to call the "regime" Nazi as well, including their Jewish President and Prime Minister.

Spend a little time here and I'll get back later. You're doing a pretty good imitation:

 
No doubt a minority % of Americans think we should be fighting with the Russians not. against.

And a significant opposition to our efforts will come as far as our support to Ukraine as a major 2024 election issue.

One of the announced candidates already has a warm friendly relationship with Putin and this one inthe link does not see Ukraine as a vital national US interest.

All Russia has to do is hold on until election time (or just after) to see US support go away.

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DeSantis says defending Ukraine from Russia is not a key US interest

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) believes protecting Ukraine in its territorial defense from Russia is not a key U.S. interest, separating himself from top Republicans, such as former Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), and adopting a vocal viewpoint more in line…
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DeSantis says defending Ukraine from Russia is not a key US interest

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) believes protecting Ukraine in its territorial defense from Russia is not a key U.S. interest, separating himself from top Republicans, such as former Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), and adopting a vocal viewpoint more in line…
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Which DeSantis are you referring to? Congressman DeSantis or Presidential Candidate DeSantis?

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Ron DeSantis is clumsily backing away from his past as a Russia hawk

DeSantis' foreign policy seems to be defined by a simple rule. Whatever Democrats do is wrong, but whatever Republicans do is right.
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Standing up to aggression by an autocracy should not be a divisive political issue. The democracies of the World must stick together to stand up to naked aggression against sovereign states who want to be free. Back in 1939 there were a lot of isolationists in the U.S. and their organization was called "America First." That did not work out well.

If we say that Russia is a "European Problem" or that Taiwan is an "Asian Problem" and do nothing, then the U.S. will no longer be a World leader. We must lead the rest of the free World to stand up to aggression and tyranny and to preserve democratic freedoms. Doing that is not easy. But that is who we are. Not saying we need to go to war, but we need to use our economic clout along with our allies.
 
“That did not work out well”

IMO for one reason——-12/7/1941 and then Germany declaring war on U.S. right after.

Those America First and like minded folks who thought we should not be fighting Germany lost their voice shortly after Dec 7 1941. prior to that they had a strong voice.

And who is to say that as the slaughter in Europe went on more and more Americans might have agreed with the America First line of thinking?
 
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