Still in the game

mrs. m said:
WHo are you people?

This group has been together for many many months. We have been through lots of up and downs. We have held each others hands and made each other laugh. Most of us got bad news and have moved on and cherished the time we all spent wringing our hands waiting. if we want to console our friend who was made to wait for one month after everyone else was told SOMETHING…by April 15th everyone was told then would know...yes, no, wait list, naps, naps wait list….except for her son who was told…we will let you know when we can. You will all have to agree that to have to wait an additional month to hear ANYTHING was quite anxiety provoking. What she went through was hard. And what she went through was awful. How dare we have to hear a lecture about entitlement from you people. This has nothing to do with kids feeling entitled or parents raising them to feel entitled. this has to do with kind and sympathetic friends saying we are sorry you were pulled out and made to wait longer than everyone else only to be told no. Why are you even on this thread?
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YEAH Mrs.M!!!!!
 
I think what some of the posters experienced with military life are trying to say is that if you are looking for fairness and transparency, then the military might not be your cup of tea. I think, having no direct knowledge, was that his RC was doing everything he/she could to get her DS in and it came down to the wire and just didn't happen. If Currey wanted an answer 3 weeks ago and was adamant about it, the RC could have just said TWE and stop fighting for her DS. The military definitely has a method to their madness, but it might not jive with what you think the criteria should be.

Ex: Your DS', who gets the TWE, stats (on the surface) are better than someone who gets a BFE. What you might not know... the one who earned the BFE came from a broken home and was poor, yet still got nearly all A's and solid SATs while having to work 30 hours per week and raise brother's and sisters.

Ex: Another LT gets a "plush" assignment and you get sent to Korea even though your OER was better and you were rated higher in your battalion. What you might not know....they are looking for a 1LT to be a general's aide in Korea and that is what they have you slotted for, but you don't know it yet.

Ex: Even though you are BTZ to O4 you are being forced into an assignment at NTC as an OC, when you had been planning and accepted to teach at USMA. What you might not know (actually were forthright on this one)....they were trying to set up your career to be BTZ to O5 as well.

Two of the 3 above are true stories. Sometimes you scratch your head as to how the decisions are being made, but always remember... it is the needs of the service first and your needs come in a close 10th.
 
billyb said:
I think what some of the posters experienced with military life are trying to say is that if you are looking for fairness and transparency, then the military might not be your cup of tea. I think, having no direct knowledge, was that his RC was doing everything he/she could to get her DS in and it came down to the wire and just didn't happen. If Currey wanted an answer 3 weeks ago and was adamant about it, the RC could have just said TWE and stop fighting for her DS. The military definitely has a method to their madness, but it might not jive with what you think the criteria should be.

Ex: Your DS', who gets the TWE, stats (on the surface) are better than someone who gets a BFE. What you might not know... the one who earned the BFE came from a broken home and was poor, yet still got nearly all A's and solid SATs while having to work 30 hours per week and raise brother's and sisters.

Ex: Another LT gets a "plush" assignment and you get sent to Korea even though your OER was better and you were rated higher in your battalion. What you might not know....they are looking for a 1LT to be a general's aide in Korea and that is what they have you slotted for, but you don't know it yet.

Ex: Even though you are BTZ to O4 you are being forced into an assignment at NTC as an OC, when you had been planning and accepted to teach at USMA. What you might not know (actually were forthright on this one)....they were trying to set up your career to be BTZ to O5 as well.

Two of the 3 above are true stories. Sometimes you scratch your head as to how the decisions are being made, but always remember... it is the needs of the service first and your needs come in a close 10th.
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Excellent insight - thanks for that. I guess my parting question would be - if USNA was trying to slot Currey's DS somewhere which is why they kept him in the dark so long then why not WL him and accept him off the WL as they did with others? It just makes no sense to my civilian brain. They could have wait listed him, NAPS'd him or Prep school if they really wanted him. That's where my puzzlement comes in.

In the end, I do believe my DS, as well as others, have ended up where God intended all along. DS will attend Catholic University in DC for which he is very excited. He will pursue his Chinese studies as was his intention at USNA. He tested into 3rd year Chinese as a freshman and has many exciting opportunities ahead of him. He is joining the HOYA Battalion which he is looking forward to. DS said a long time ago, "we have free will to make choices in our life, but God has determined where our free will take us." I believe he understands life very well. Thank you 12 years of Catholic school :thumb: Good bye all - it's been a great ride. Best of luck.
 
billyb said:
Sometimes you scratch your head as to how the decisions are being made, but always remember... it is the needs of the service first and your needs come in a close 10th.
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Well said billyb. This is the same logic used in corporate life and so many employees just don't get it. Companies are in the business to make money (at least the publicly held companies) and not in the business to employee people. While employee morale is an important point, it is not why companies are in business. The same logic can be applied to the military.
 
Or sometimes life is unfair

You might also have a situation where a dumber-than-average, spoiled, rich, mama's boy who never tries hard gets a plum assignment that someone else really deserved because he's related to an admiral and two congressmen. Also a real-life example. Life isn't always fair.

billyb said:
I think what some of the posters experienced with military life are trying to say is that if you are looking for fairness and transparency, then the military might not be your cup of tea. I think, having no direct knowledge, was that his RC was doing everything he/she could to get her DS in and it came down to the wire and just didn't happen. If Currey wanted an answer 3 weeks ago and was adamant about it, the RC could have just said TWE and stop fighting for her DS. The military definitely has a method to their madness, but it might not jive with what you think the criteria should be.

Ex: Your DS', who gets the TWE, stats (on the surface) are better than someone who gets a BFE. What you might not know... the one who earned the BFE came from a broken home and was poor, yet still got nearly all A's and solid SATs while having to work 30 hours per week and raise brother's and sisters.

Ex: Another LT gets a "plush" assignment and you get sent to Korea even though your OER was better and you were rated higher in your battalion. What you might not know....they are looking for a 1LT to be a general's aide in Korea and that is what they have you slotted for, but you don't know it yet.

Ex: Even though you are BTZ to O4 you are being forced into an assignment at NTC as an OC, when you had been planning and accepted to teach at USMA. What you might not know (actually were forthright on this one)....they were trying to set up your career to be BTZ to O5 as well.

Two of the 3 above are true stories. Sometimes you scratch your head as to how the decisions are being made, but always remember... it is the needs of the service first and your needs come in a close 10th.
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currey said:
Well folks, its been a good ride hasn't it?

My DS was informed today that he will not be offered a spot at USNA this year. They stated, "There was not a single factor that led to the turn down decision. Competition is extremely fierce and we unfortunately just do not have enough spots for all the excellent qualified candidates like you."

Since he just told me that he filled out the preliminary application and submitted it 4 weeks ago just in case, I guess I will see you all on the flip side as we pick our seats on the roller coaster for the next go around.

Thank you all for the support as we waited for a determination.
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Currey,

Just saw this today. I'm so, so sorry the outcome this year wasn't a BFE, especially after the long wait. Kind of rough on the nerves.

But I've no doubt your DS will do well, and I wish him the very best this year, and especially with his reapplication.
 
Currey,
I am so sorry to hear your news. I haven't checked in for a few days. I read your news with an open mouth :eek:. I understand about not having the warm fuzzy feeling to get back on the roller coaster. Been there. The old saying "Time heals all wounds" actually holds true. My DS has selected his classes for the fall along with the NROTC program, but has become more determined to succeed in his second attempt. Even signed up for the ACT before the summer gets started. Finishing on a high note at school sparked something inside him. He has nomination packets printed out and announced that all will be submitted by August. I know the heart break you must be feeling and will offer my support and shoulder for you to lean on until we board the next ride! Hang in there. We need to start a new thread soon.
The second time around ride thread! Can't wait to see you there!:thumb:
 
Dear All: Somewhere out there today someone is indeed "still in the game" and its my hope it's one of you on the forum.

DS has had his appointment since last December but a late season lacrosse injury seven weeks ago with a stress injury (which his own doctors submitted would be healed and 100% in the next few weeks) were not enough to have the USNA DQ him as they felt he would not be ready at this late stage and today received word that his waiver would not be granted.

A difficult day to be sure just weeks from I-Day, but the 17 year old showed a lot of character considering that just last evening in front of packed house his BGO presented him with his ceremonial appointment at Senior Night.

Off to plan B (grateful we have) and on to reapplication for next year. In any event, that appointment will now to go one of the many worthy candidates who have been waiting long and patiently.

Thank you all for the this wonderful year as we have learned much from the counsel and information provided by so many of you. Best Wishes to one and all!
 
Oh Sydney! I want to reach through the computer and give you and yours a big hug! So very difficult to be in that spot and so hard on your DS.

Give him time to wrap his brain around it and let him know we support him and will keep supporting him in a second application year.


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Sydney, I am so very sorry to hear this. It is often difficult to understand a turn of events like this and make sense of it, especially as it seems like there would still be some time to heal.

I wish the best to you and your DS as you process this and move forward. Just reading this, I feel such a disappointment that I can't even imagine how you must be feeling. Hang in there.
 
Sydney, my thoughts and prayers for you and your family. I cannot even imagine the feelings you are going through. Sounds like you are dealing with it well though, so glad you have the plan B in place!
Good luck!
 
Sydney, my hope is that the process for 2019 is very kind to your DS. I hope he heals well and gets back on that horse. All the best.


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Sydney,

My heart goes out to you & your DS. What a tremendous disappointment - can't even imagine. All the best in healing the injury, Plan B, and in reapplication.
 
mista said:
Sydney, I am so very sorry to hear this. It is often difficult to understand a turn of events like this and make sense of it, especially as it seems like there would still be some time to heal.

I wish the best to you and your DS as you process this and move forward. Just reading this, I feel such a disappointment that I can't even imagine how you must be feeling. Hang in there.
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This x 100.
 
Sydney,
I'm so sad for your DS. My heart goes out to both of you. He appears to be an outstanding young man who will rise above this temporary detour. We will all be here for you to offer support. You are not alone.
 
Currey, so sorry your DS's wait ended with disappointment.

Sidney, I can't imagine your family's disappointment.

I imagine we will meet on another thread in a few months as we wait for Class of 2019 decisions.
 
Just wondering where everyone landed when all was said and done? Our DS is at USMA, working hard. How many are trying again next year? How many feel like they are where they are supposed to be ?
 
DS started classes yesterday at UW - Madison and is loving NROTC. He will not be reapplying and I can look at it now and say that he made the right decision for him.
 
famof8 said:
Just wondering where everyone landed when all was said and done? Our DS is at USMA, working hard. How many are trying again next year? How many feel like they are where they are supposed to be ?
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Our DD is a member of Greystone Prep at Schreiner U. in Texas and also working hard. We totally believe she is in the right place. She is definitely re applying to USNA for the class of 2019. Good luck to those who have restarted the "game" and those who've decided to take a different but equally rewarding path to commissioning. As parents we are thankful for all these young men and women who want to serve and protect our nation!
 
famof8 said:
Just wondering where everyone landed when all was said and done? Our DS is at USMA, working hard. How many are trying again next year? How many feel like they are where they are supposed to be ?
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After reapplying and not getting in, I am going back at it for the third time. I'm currently at URI (University of Rhode Island) studying Industrial and Systems Engineering. I like it here a lot, but Annapolis is still my top choice.
 
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