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What Gray Hog is attempted to convey is the fact that WP guys don't have a problem getting dates because of sexuality or male-to-female ratios, but because the vast majority of the population has the sense of sight...

Damn; and I thought it was because West point was in the rural part of New York and had a greater availability of Farm Animals. Dang; shows what I know. :confused:
 
What Gray Hog is attempted to convey is the fact that WP guys don't have a problem getting dates because of sexuality or male-to-female ratios, but because the vast majority of the population has the sense of sight...

CGA? Did we let them in the club? :yllol:
 
What Gray Hog is attempted to convey is the fact that WP guys don't have a problem getting dates because of sexuality or male-to-female ratios, but because the vast majority of the population has the sense of sight...

Perhaps I was simply unattractive and, maybe, as a result, I suffered from some sort of lack of self-esteem. Whatever the reason, I couldn't find a civilian girlfriend and I was forced to spend the majority of my time at West Point dating a USCGA cadet.

[Disclaimer for non-grads: The above post was made in good fun. It was not intended to be taken seriously or hurt anyone's feelings. There is no hidden message of real animosity against the fine men and women who attend the USCGA, nor those who serve in the USCG in general. The mere fact that the USCGA cadet I mentioned happened to be of the opposite sex should not be interpreted as a negative bias against homosexuals or same-sex relationships. Furthermore, my attempt at self-deprecating humor relating to my own physical attractiveness should not be interpreted as an indication by me that I believe the women who attend the USCGA are, themselves, not attractive or that they cannot find equally attractive men to date. For the record, however, I did actually date a USCGA cadet for three years...and she really wasn't that attractive.]
 
This thread needs to be locked, we are no longer doing any help to any candidate. In honesty, if you were a candidate or a lurker, you would walk away because all they see is combative posts, nobody is saying anything positive of their sister branches as grayhog posed.

Gray Hog is correct, we need each other.

The fact is the Army can't get anywhere without the AF, but the mission can't get completed without the Army. The Navy can't do the job of the Army, or the AF. The AF and Army need the Navy to do their mission so they can do theirs. We will be forever joined. Now let's add in the sister we forget about all too often..the USCG. They come to rescue for our brethren, on top of that they do some awesome rescue missions.

In the AF they have a light in each squadron...if it is on then spouses are not allowed to enter without the AD member paying for it in spades, basically the hootch is a football locker room.
OBTW did you miss my early post on offending ROTC/OCS cadets that are in this site, are do you not care?
[Disclaimer for non-grads:

In other words only SA grads got it?!?!?

ROTC grads didn't get it? OCS grads didn't get it? Enlisted parents didn't get it? Officer parents didn't get it? Only the SA member can understand...thanks for helping us.

Sorry, but I am still waiting as a person who followed her DH around the world for you to apologize for the non-chalant remark about homosexuals. Might have been a joke to you, but trust me for some of us with homosexual family members it was offensive. My godmother lost her partner of 27 yrs the day before NJ recognized civil unions. She spent thousands on legal fees because of her partners children. Homosexuality isn't a comic relief regarding military posts. Honestly, I would think anyone with ties to the military would not find DADT issues humorous. I also would think that an officer in today's Army would not find it funny making a joke about all of the women he may or may not have slept with in an open forum, especially since they are a Field Admissions Rep. Worse yet, a BGO who jokingly states he will defend him.

I guess I missed that lesson on being offended as a woman on a site dedicated to equality regarding the military. I guess you attended that class along with others and can now explain the "TELL ALL THE GALS" your their defense since uou were a WOOP. Go for it tell the fathers and mothers how you "tell all the girls".

Like I said Mombee at least realized he crossed the line. He aplogized. He got that he would kick a USNA cadet to the Potomac River if they said that crap/

I am sorry, but if Gray Hog and others cannot understand the offensive sexual context towards women I can't help him. To brag about sexual conquests in a joking manner and have another poster defend it, albeit it in the same context, is offensive. Sex to me is not a light hearted matter to be posted on an open site, it is private and intimate. I will not make an apology for how I feel, all I will say is I hope that my stance makes you think twice about opening your mouth and making a joke about sex.


Now if you want to keep the urination contest going between me and you because you feel you are superior, I suggest we meet somewhere for a game of CRUD...winner does MEA CULPA on this site. Otherwise, let's get back to what is important and assist our future cadets, candidates, applicants and parents. We mean squat in the long run. They will be the defenders of the nations. I mean absolutely nothing.

I only responded to this because I want and desire the acknowledgment that we respect women and homosexuals in the military...defending offensive jokes is wrong, hiding behind a shield that only SA grad get the meaning of the joke is not a justifiable defense. As women and same sexual right defendants we need to shut these condescending remarks down right now!
 
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...if Gray Hog cannot understand the offensive sexual context towards women I can't help him. To brag about sexual conquests in a joking manner and have another poster defend it, albeit it in the same context, is offensive.

You will find no reference to any sexual acts or intimate relations of any sort in my posts whatsoever. The word "sex" only appears in my posts in regard to gender. I, for one, made no comments related to "conquests," only dating. For crying out loud, quit reading something into my posts which is not there!

The only thing "offensive" I said was about my ex-girlfirend not being very attractive, which, while subjective, was fairly universally agreed by my friends...and my mother.
 
This thread needs to be locked, we are no longer doing any help to any candidate. In honesty, if you were a candidate or a lurker, you would walk away because all they see is combative posts, nobody is saying anything positive of their sister branches as grayhog posed.

Gray Hog is correct, we need each other.

The fact is the Army can't get anywhere without the AF, but the mission can't get completed without the Army. The Navy can't do the job of the Army, or the AF. The AF and Army need the Navy to do their mission so they can do theirs. We will be forever joined. Now let's add in the sister we forget about all too often..the USCG. They come to rescue for our brethren, on top of that they do some awesome rescue missions.

In the AF they have a light in each squadron...if it is on then spouses are not allowed to enter without the AD member paying for it in spades, basically the hootch is a football locker room.

I am sorry, but this site has no light and if Gray Hog and others cannot understand the offensive sexual context towards women I can't help him. To brag about sexual conquests in a joking manner and have another poster defend it, albeit it in the same context, is offensive. Sex to me is not a light hearted matter to be posted on an open site, it is private and intimate. I will not make an apology for how I feel, all I will say is I hope that my stance makes you think twice about opening your mouth and making a joke about sex.

OBTW did you miss my early post on offending ROTC/OCS cadets that are in this site, are do you not care?

In other words only SA grads got it?!?!?

ROTC grads didn't get it? OCS grads didn't get it? Enlisted parents didn't get it? Officer parents didn't get it? Only the SA member can understand...thanks for helping us.

As I said before, we might take your rants more seriously if you didn't tell so many club stories. But I guess sex is serious and glorifying the guzzling of booze is A-OK. Pass the Jeremiah Weed, right?
 
My sincere apologies, I posted wrong. YOUR tongue and cheek was about HOMOSEXUALS

Read your post about other services and homosexuals. A lurker would find your post homophobic.

Okay, it was tongue and cheek. I accept that, but how about the lurkers on this site? Do you not realize they may take everything you say as gospel? We need to be here for them. I openly admit I mess up on posts, but I have good intentions. I WOULD NEVER be as cavalier as you. Even your last post is offensive as a parent.

he only thing "offensive" I said was about my ex-girlfirend not being very attractive, which, while subjective, was fairly universally agreed by my friends...and my mother.

A gentleman would never publicly state such a thing on a forum, let alone an officer.
 
My sincere apologies, I posted wrong. YOUR tongue and cheek was about HOMOSEXUALS

Read your post about other services and homosexuals. A lurker would find your post homophobic.

Okay, it was tongue and cheek. I accept that, but how about the lurkers on this site? Do you not realize they may take everything you say as gospel? We need to be here for them. I openly admit I mess up on posts, but I have good intentions. I WOULD NEVER be as cavalier as you. Even your last post is offensive as a parent.



A gentleman would never publicly state such a thing on a forum, let alone an officer.

:rolleyes:
Do you ever tire of preaching on this forum?
 
Gray Hog, We gotta have the smiley faces quick. If you find the one called "Dripping in Sarcasm", send it to me ASAP. Maybe in the AF they drink so much Jeremiah Weed that they don't care about how their GFs look. Some of that rot gut stuff will make you go blind.
 
Damn; and I thought it was because West point was in the rural part of New York and had a greater availability of Farm Animals. Dang; shows what I know. :confused:
An example of a non-Academy grad who as per Gray Hog stated correctly shouldn't be making jokes about another Academy just as no officer would ever make fun of enlisted people. However, Pima, 99% understand the 'rules' and honor them.
 
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Scout,

In the AF there is the HOOTCH and the BIG HOUSE. The hootch is the squadron. in essence, only fliers. The BIG HOUSE is the O'Club, where the wives wait for the guys after the Hootch is closed (@ 6 p.m.)

Tell me the stories I have talked about the BIG HOUSE?

Last time I checked my stories about alcohol were related to raising a glass to the lives lost in toasts. I do acknowledge that I say weed tastes like bad cough syrup. Did I brag about getting drunk off my arse? NO! I positively, absolutely, dare you to prove that I bragged about consuming alcohol. Did you brag about sexual conquests? YES!

You will make a great politician because you deflected the fact that you bragged about sex and now want to make it about me. SORRY. I won't play that game. You said it POST 55!

As for the weed, let's at least try to keep this to military.

Jeremiah Weed is the most disgusting alcohol in the world. It makes Vicks taste like a glass of Shiraz Wine.

It is the traditional shot drink in the fighter world.
They toast to those(shot glass) that have been lost within the community.

CC and I joke about Weed, but you need to give him a hats off, because at AFA game he toasts to EVERY military member lost, not SA, not Officer, not Enlisted, not Retired..just to everyone who served!
Scout. I have never said guzzling alcohol is correct, and the AF doesn't do that...link me one post where I said that the military approves. Show me one post where I talk about "guzzling" alcohol and I approved? Please show me at least one. You won't find one!

I am only asking you to step back and acknowledge that your post of 55 was offensive to women. Mongo did it, why can't you? You are a man who is married, what was it 5 months out of 48? Curiosity where would be your stance towards your wife if she responded to your post (55)?

MONGO THANK YOU!
 
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Even your last post is offensive as a parent.

A gentleman would never publicly state such a thing on a forum, let alone an officer.

You take EVERYTHING way too seriously. Lighten up.

The real truth is that she was a lovely girl (now a CG Commander, by the way). I was still shooting for self-deprecating humor with the claim that I was forced to date an unattractive person. To be completely honest, if she really was unattractive, I wouldn't have dated her.

Now, I am sure you will find that offensive as well. I anticipate you jumping to the defense of parents of unattractive people, whom you believe will be offended that I could be so openly superficial. You will, undoubtedly consider it greatly offensive to suggest that someone would choose to not date their sons/daughters, because they are not beautiful. You can spare me the lecture about "seeing the beauty within" or whatever holier-than-thou speech you are cooking up next.
 
So, the wearing of the Arctic Service Ribbon and the Joint Unit Commendation award deserve punishments equal to falsely claiming a Navy Cross?

:sofa:

Sorry, I want my thread back. :argue1:
 
Sorry, I want my thread back. :argue1:

LOL. The ONLY reason I responded to scout to start this entire debacle was because I was getting kind of tired of it and was hoping to nudge it toward dying a slow death. Little did I know. I want my thread back too.

YOu know that back in my day the Anarctic Service Medal was probably more rare than the Bronze Star? It was valued highly. One had to winter over to get it.
 
Scout,

In the AF there is the HOOTCH and the BIG HOUSE. The hootch is the squadron. in essence, only fliers. The BIG HOUSE is the O'Club, where the wives wait for the guys after the Hootch is closed (@ 6 p.m.)

Tell me the stories I have talked about the BIG HOUSE?

Last time I checked my stories about alcohol were related to raising a glass to the lives lost in toasts. I do acknowledge that I say weed tastes like bad cough syrup. Did I brag about getting drunk off my arse? NO! I positively, absolutely, dare you to prove that I bragged about consuming alcohol. Did you brag about sexual conquests? YES!

You will make a great politician because you deflected the fact that you bragged about sex and now want to make it about me. SORRY. I won't play that game. You said it POST 55!

As for the weed, let's at least try to keep this to military.

Jeremiah Weed is the most disgusting alcohol in the world. It makes Vicks taste like a glass of Shiraz Wine.

It is the traditional shot drink in the fighter world.
They toast to those(shot glass) that have been lost within the community.

CC and I joke about Weed, but you need to give him a hats off, because at AFA game he toasts to EVERY military member lost, not SA, not Officer, not Enlisted, not Retired..just to everyone who served!
Scout. I have never said guzzling alcohol is correct, and the AF doesn't do that...link me one post where I said that the military approves. Show me one post where I talk about "guzzling" alcohol and I approved? Please show me at least one. You won't find one!

I am only asking you to step back and acknowledge that your post of 55 was offensive to women. Mongo did it, why can't you? You are a man who is married, what was it 5 months out of 48? Curiosity where would be your stance towards your wife if she responded to your post (55)?

MONGO THANK YOU!

Hmmm, so I guess that young wife dropped her husband's coin out of his wallet in their living room, huh? And I guess he bought a round of Sprite for the room?

Your ability to be obstinate is unparalleled. Funny, YOU seem to be the only one offended. Let's just make sure we have this right: you joke about booze, but all those poor innocent lurkers know it's a joke. Someone makes a ridiculous reference without even using the word sex, and all those poor innocent lurkers couldn't possibly sort out if it's serious or not? Right.

As to how my wife would respond, she'd get the reference to constitutional power and probably debate the subject. She'd also make fun of me. Then again, she's a highly educated physician and pretty damn cool so she doesn't take everything in the most literal sense possible. Maybe she should spend more time hanging around the O Club (the BIG HOUSE, right?).

We are sorry you don't feel part of the SA club, but what Gray Hog said is true. LITS gets it. Mongo gets it. Even CC gets it. This is SA Forums after all, "this is not baseops.net"

Oh, and Mongo wasn't admitting anything. He was pointing out your hypocrisy. You just missed it I think.
 
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