Stuck in CPR?

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I know this may be a ridiculous question but has anyone ever heard of an application being stuck in a CPR que? My son has had complete pending since early October - president nom posted in August so he didn’t have to wait until January for MOC (the only time his CPR changed was to add an additional Senator nomination and when his academic counselor’s name changed to someone else-) so obviously I know someone must’ve looked at / touched it...But I’m starting to believe it’s out there floating in a void. I’m at the point where hearing a No rather than still pending would be better- I understand it’s a marathon not a sprint -but during this stressful time with everything going on you think that they would just hurry up and make a decision already! His B C & D plan are all in play and good to go - we are just hanging on this.......any advice ?
 
There is no "stuck in que." Getting the Presidential Nom early doesn't mean anything-- unless he had an LOA as well, he is competing just like everyone else. Neither does the change in Admissions Counselor --that happens all the time as JO's are reassigned. Be patient, April 15 is around the corner.
 
You should presume you are not getting an appointment and work on Plans B & C.

I have lost complete confidence that the best candidates are chosen.

Best wishes everyone and God bless.
 
You should presume you are not getting an appointment and work on Plans B & C.

I have lost complete confidence that the best candidates are chosen.

Best wishes everyone and God bless.
I am saddened to see you have lost complete confidence that the best candidates are chosen. I assume you have fact-based reasons for coming to that conclusion, but I urge you to not lose hope until you are actually informed of a decision by the SA. I agree it is prudent to continue to tend to alternate plans.

I think it’s a fairly safe bet no one here gets to see every application from the thousands of outstanding candidates who apply each year, nor are we included in the process of scoring applications across the many elements that go into one, nor do we get to listen to the deliberations of those charged with the challenging task of determining which candidates will best fit the future needs of the Navy and Marine Corps.

As one of my wisest bosses once told me, “selection for the next rank or special program is not a reward for past performance, but a vote for meeting a future need of the Navy.”

If you had a stellar application for USNA, rejoice in the fact you would be desirable to other top programs. Doors will open for you, as long as you look for them and take a positive, proactive approach to navigating disappointments and staying the course. If you are 100% committed to being a Navy or Marine Officer, there are other paths, including re-applying to USNA. The “how” you get a commission becomes a great deal less important once you are on AD. It’s performance in the job assigned that is the key to success, and respect from subordinates, peers and leaders.
 
In my humble opinion I’d like to offer some advice and perspective. One of the things my family has learned is to try and have patience in matters where we don’t have power over. My DS is a reapplying to both Navy and KP. He didn’t get a nom to Navy last time out but did get one to KP. We thought the waiting to hear was hell, but it pales in comparison when he began his journey. He didn’t get into to KP but did get a NROTC scholarship and off he went to NSI. To be honest that was harder on us than waiting to hear back from the SA. Not talking to him and no contact with him for three weeks was one of the toughest things we have ever experience we have ever had as a family. I know I speak for many of the NROTC families felt the same way because we created a Facebook group and some of those people have become such great freinds because we all had to lean on each other. It really gave me an insight to what we have signed up as a “Navy Family” and the sacrifices all of will have in A small way. We will miss birthdays, holidays and go great lengths of time without seeing each other. His decision is a decision we will make so he can fulfill his calling to protect our nation and I am proud of him for answering the call to serve. I am proud of all the families here who are willing to step up to answering that call.
These kids are remarkable, many of the parents can attest they were different than there classmates, they studied hard, were not out drinking and smoking, did volunteer work, were class leaders and love their country and our have high aspiration and goals, other wise they wouldn’t be here trying to get in to SA/ROTC. But this is reality sets in. Like the best football player in your hometown who goes off to college as a full ride, when they get there, everyone is an all city, all state, all everything letterman when they get there and now they have to compete with peers that are their equal and maybe even better is a shock for someone who has never played against anyone as good as them.
Here everyone has a nomination, was a class officer and leader and that is wonderful we have these leaders want to join the fleet. The saying goes if you want to make God laugh tell him your plans. Annapolis is great, so is KP, so is NROTC, and so is OCS and all have their own pros and cons. Please remember the goal is to commission and get a butter bar and when you get to the fleet as a JO their will be a salty Navy Chief that will be there to teach you how to be an officer and he doesn’t care how you got there he just wants you to be a leader who will learn how to give proper orders, run your department and keep his sailors safe. I had my DS talk with a Chief I know before he left for NSI and he showed him how to stand at attention, how to salute and told him his sailors lives will be in his hands and if he didn’t take this seriously someone’s son or daughter will die and he will have to tell someone’s mother and father why their child died. That helped put everything else in perceptive.
I know it’s hard to wait but try your best, relax as best you can and know this isn’t getting into Harvard or Stanford anyone can do that, what your family is doing take much much more.
A watched kettle never boils!
 
You should presume you are not getting an appointment and work on Plans B & C.

I have lost complete confidence that the best candidates are chosen.

Best wishes everyone and God bless.
WOW how sad. Should I tell my DS that he's not one of the best, just what mediocre at best?
 
I have lost complete confidence that the best candidates are chosen.

Hmmm...and yet you desire to become part of this august body. And how do you define “best candidates”? Do you have a different definition from USNA? Does your own definition jibe with the mission and stipulations set by Congress? Is there something we all don’t know, i.e. that the best candidates are the ones who receive the BFE early in the cycle?

(Interestingly, just two weeks ago you posted “...don’t give up hope.” Take note: Upon entering Bancroft Hall’s main door, one can look up beyond the stairs into Memorial Hall. There, in plain view, is a banner with the immortal words “Don’t give up the ship.” It inspires, motivates and soothes midshipmen and officers. Hopefully candidates as well.)
 
As one of my wisest bosses once told me, “selection for the next rank or special program is not a reward for past performance, but a vote for meeting a future need of the Navy.”
Yes! This! When looking through this lens, it takes the "he/she is more excellent than me" out of the conversation.
 
I have lost complete confidence that the best candidates are chosen.

How do you define "best candidates ?" I will be the first to admit that sometimes the #2 or #3 person on the MOC slate in Northern Virginia who doesn't get in has better tickets than the #1 kid in the State of Montana who does get in.. That said, I don't think that kid in NORVA is any better than the kid from Montana, and history has repeatedly shown that some of the most distinguished graduates weren't the kids that came in with the perfect resume and graduated at the top of the Class.
 
I rarely post, but I read the boards and have to say that I feel for the member who posted that they lost confidence, especially given that they posted "don't give up hope" just a couple of weeks ago. Obviously they are down. Maybe they posted something you don't agree with - and maybe you are right. But it's obviously not directed towards you specifically. They aren't looking for lectures, and wouldn't absorb them anyway.

For those seniors who are still CPR there is an added level of stress in a time when COVID-19 has stripped them of their senior year, including milestones that they've worked towards for 12 years. They are unsettled and sad, and yes, some may not be rational at this very moment in time. Of course, I understand that by posting something it's 'fair game', but I would also hope that we all have some compassion before posting replies.
 
Well said, @tbbb. This forum is very supportive, as many of us have been through the admissions grinder -- if not as actual candidates, then as loved ones of candidates. What this forum is less supportive of is posters who disparage other candidates and make it all about themselves. Don't know if that's said poster's intent. Hopefully not.
 
They are unsettled and sad, and yes, some may not be rational at this very moment in time. Of course, I understand that by posting something it's 'fair game', but I would also hope that we all have some compassion before posting replies.

I am going to take a somewhat contrary view -- I appreciate the sentiment, and the stress that everyone is under , but this isn't the time to be unsettled, sad, or irrational. This is, hopefully, a temporary hiccup in the journey of life, and an opportunity to step up and make a difference, rather than feel sorry for ourselves.
 
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