I do marine incident investigations for companies and a law firm. I also used to teach at a well know Ship Full Mission Bridge Simulator Training Facility. It's highly likely that the direct cause of this grounding is human error (competency). I've been through the Suez Canal several times and some of those Pilots are not that good. A ship that size ... just a little bank cushion on the bow and bank suction on the quarter and there you go. As far as navigating in a sandstorm. Even the best RADAR/GPS and ECDIS elect chart system technology won't eliminate the need to watch and react while visually conning (directing the helm orders and engine speeds). My guess, the Pilot likely got too far over and thats all she wrote. This could occur so quickly such that he Master didnt take over the conn in enough time. Could also be steering or propulsion failure but I doubt it. Another factor is the under keel clearance ... dont know that ships draft ...but there was not much UKC...which makes the ship handling much more sluggish and unpredictable. Lots of hydrodynamics here. Also we will likely not get the real story from the Egyptian Pilots-thats just the way it is there. Here's a video for those interested.I put this on my projector today and showed all of my students (chem, physics, earth and space science). I thought it was relevant to physics for sure and earth science. They were baffled. I pointed out the log jam of ships, the affect on economy, delivery of goods etc.
Then I showed them the images from USMMA SAF 'rough winter' post of the ships losing containers. They got a little green under the gills watching the video of the tanker in the North Pacific.
They couldn't believe the enlisted on the decks of the Navy vessel that @Capt MJ had posted the video of transferring fuel and goods. They have a new level of respect for Sailors.
Ship tracker app is amazing and they really enjoyed looking at the patterns of heavy traffic. Seeing the different types of vessels was fun. They really perked up at the 'armed guards' onboard vessel ships. Had to walk through piracy at sea.
Perfect segue into why no country should be so reliant on the goods of others.
We may have the ability to manufacture and pilot these massive merchant ships but we may need to devise a plan to update the canals to handle them.
Also, from the mariners on this site I am curious about something.
The word from the ship's owner is that a dust/sand storm caused poor visibility. If so, then why just the one vessel? Am I mistaken in assuming they have very modern navigation technology on board to assist with piloting the ship in any conditions? My gut says either mechanical or human error may be involved.
What a mess.
Lots of discussion and insider info in the SWO world. Canal is approx 1000 feet wide there and ship is 1200 feet long.I put this on my projector today and showed all of my students (chem, physics, earth and space science). I thought it was relevant to physics for sure and earth science. They were baffled. I pointed out the log jam of ships, the affect on economy, delivery of goods etc.
Then I showed them the images from USMMA SAF 'rough winter' post of the ships losing containers. They got a little green under the gills watching the video of the tanker in the North Pacific.
They couldn't believe the enlisted on the decks of the Navy vessel that @Capt MJ had posted the video of transferring fuel and goods. They have a new level of respect for Sailors.
Ship tracker app is amazing and they really enjoyed looking at the patterns of heavy traffic. Seeing the different types of vessels was fun. They really perked up at the 'armed guards' onboard vessel ships. Had to walk through piracy at sea.
Perfect segue into why no country should be so reliant on the goods of others.
We may have the ability to manufacture and pilot these massive merchant ships but we may need to devise a plan to update the canals to handle them.
Also, from the mariners on this site I am curious about something.
The word from the ship's owner is that a dust/sand storm caused poor visibility. If so, then why just the one vessel? Am I mistaken in assuming they have very modern navigation technology on board to assist with piloting the ship in any conditions? My gut says either mechanical or human error may be involved.
What a mess.
I appreciate your insight. I understand the sail affect. It would be massive considering that the ship is almost 1/4 mile in length.Lots of discussion and insider info in the SWO world. Canal is approx 1000 feet wide there and ship is 1200 feet long.
Reportedly there was a "dropping of the load" (power outtage) with loss of steering control which combined with a big crosswind.
As previously stated, this ship has a HUGE sail area and the wind will take it and move it when the ship is not propelling itself properly.
I have fought the wind while maneuvering many times - generally when going very like when mooring to a pier or anchoring. A good
SWO shiphandling training lesson is to pick up a man overboard which requires "circling back" and stopping nearby. This is a very good
time to show baby-SWOs about working with a crosswind because it is so difficult.
Dang you have a super cool job!I do marine incident investigations for companies and a law firm. I also used to teach at a well know Ship Full Mission Bridge Simulator Training Facility. It's highly likely that the direct cause of this grounding is human error (competency). I've been through the Suez Canal several times and some of those Pilots are not that good. A ship that size ... just a little bank cushion on the bow and bank suction on the quarter and there you go. As far as navigating in a sandstorm. Even the best RADAR/GPS and ECDIS elect chart system technology won't eliminate the need to watch and react while visually conning (directing the helm orders and engine speeds). My guess, the Pilot likely got too far over and thats all she wrote. This could occur so quickly such that he Master didnt take over the conn in enough time. Could also be steering or propulsion failure but I doubt it. Another factor is the under keel clearance ... dont know that ships draft ...but there was not much UKC...which makes the ship handling much more sluggish and unpredictable. Lots of hydrodynamics here. Also we will likely not get the real story from the Egyptian Pilots-thats just the way it is there. Here's a video for those interested.
Yes the "sail area" is a large factor....but not a new one. Both the Master and Pilot are aware of that and likely have gone through Full Mission Bridge training a lot. Exercises in the simulator would include wind factors and much more. So its not a surprise. I have found that Pilot Associations often have Internal Rules (for example, "can't navigate a certain size/beam/draft ship in more than 25 knots sustained wind". But, often these organizations are really poor at policing thier own rules. The master has the responsibility to look a weather forecasts and not get underway or transit the canal unless it is safe to do so. There are many controls in place....For non-mariners, when transiting the Suez and Panama Canals, Merchant Vessels must use a local Pilot (same for harbors). He/she takes operational control (i.e. the Conn). The Master is still legally responsible but the Pilot has the "Local Knowledge and Skills" particular to that location. Often with large ships, like this one, two Pilots are used...but it's not unusual for the Pilots to not interact with each other and the Ships officers very well. This we call "Bridge Resource Management". I'm not an expert on US Navy piloting practices, but my expiernce is that USN Ships are generaly more effective at BRM...especially if they utilize CIC and wheelhouse teams to provide the right amount of information to the person conning. Some retired SWOs could speak to that better than I. My area is Merchant Ships. There are many factors that are involved in something like this.I appreciate your insight. I understand the sail affect. It would be massive considering that the ship is almost 1/4 mile in length.
My brain accounted for that but naively assumed they would have the ability to counter with propulsion.
I grew sailing with my dad and can only imagine the impact of high wind on a sail of that size. Or the terror that must strike when you know you cannot counter it.