Tardy ALO's

Any idea on the first board review?

There will be some individuals receiving actual appointments or Letters of Assurance at the end of this month. These are those totally complete with their applications, and have scores in all areas that pretty much pop the bell curve from historical data.

Sounds like the first board meeting will be at the end of the month since appointments will start to go out. I doubt that CC can officially confirm this, but that's how I read him which seems to confirm Romad's data point. Then the forum should start to light up.
 
Sounds like the first board meeting will be at the end of the month since appointments will start to go out. I doubt that CC can officially confirm this, but that's how I read him which seems to confirm Romad's data point. Then the forum should start to light up.

actually, the end of the month when some LOA/early appointment (Usually those with a nomination already, such as presidential), is based on years past. IF, mind you i said IF, they start to give out LOA/early appointments at the end of this month, then boards will be held earlier than that. Like in, they started about NOW.

Now I'm not confirming that the boards have started already. Even if I could confirm, I wouldn't be able to tell you, and I would not tell you. However, realize that they are very unlikely to have a board review and send out an LOA/Appointment the next day. It's takes time to do things. In 2008, they started the boards around the last week of september/1st week of October. That's how they were able to get LOA/early Appointments out at the end of Octobeer/1st of november. But this is a different year. Plus, there are going to be less appointments. So when they actually start the board reviews and start to give out LOA/Early Appointments, is something you don't/won't know.
 
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I'm also having issues with my ALO... I've talked to him several times, however I have not had an interview yet (he says that he's seen my name on his papers and will call me when he's ready to schedule an interview). I've been growing increasingly anxious because it seems everyone else on here was interviewed over a month ago. Any advice..?
 
I'm also having issues with my ALO... I've talked to him several times, however I have not had an interview yet (he says that he's seen my name on his papers and will call me when he's ready to schedule an interview). I've been growing increasingly anxious because it seems everyone else on here was interviewed over a month ago. Any advice..?

Do you have ANYTHING else left on your application besides the ALO interview? Reason being, if you have even 1 thing not completed on the application, the academy will NOT SEND YOUR APPLICATION to the board. So it wouldn't matter if the ALO did the interview yet or not.

I agree that it can be frustrating to have to wait; but for those lurking at these threads, you can't even think about getting after your ALO if there is ANYTHING still left to do on the application. Remember; the ONLY 2 THINGS the ALO is actually required to do with the applicant is to do the Drug/Alcohol briefing, and to do an interview. (ALO's are an extension of admissions and is basically doing the interview for them). Anything else the ALO does for you, they are doing as a mentor and out of the goodness of their heart. The application is pretty simple and self explanatory. I bring this up, because if your transcripts aren't in, if the teacher's input aren't in, or any other part of the application, then you aren't losing any time if the ALO is waiting to do your interview.

Again; that is for those lurking and reading. I assume that everyone in this thread, who has commented about WAITING on their ALO, is in fact 100% complete with their application and is simply waiting for their ALO interview, Possible DODMRB medical, and a nomination. If you are in this boat, then definitely email/call your ALO.

Unfortunately, not all ALO's are as good as Flieger. He's probably one of the best out there. He gives that "Mentor" touch to his candidates. Some ALO's are simply so busy, that they can do the required tasks, but can't be much of a mentor. That's where forums like this one come in handy. And why EACH OF YOU, automatically have a step up on most applicants. Best of luck.... mike....
 
Did I read on the USNA forum that LOA letters were sent out a while ago, like three weeks? Is this ordinary for the USNA to be that far ahead of the USAFA?
 
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Did I read on the USNA forum that LOA letters were sent out a while ago, like three weeks? Is the ordinary for the USNA to be that far ahead of the USAFA?

Air Force gives out the least amount of LOA's than any of the other academies. Army gives out LOA's back in the summer. You don't have to have your application completed for army. For air force; you MUST have your application 100% complete, with the exception of your DODMRB and/or Nomination. That's why ours don't go out until Oct/Nov. The board hasn't reviews applications til then. The army basically gives them out with the stipulation that anything not completed, or not qualified, means you lose it. Air Force says it IS AN ASSURANCE. Therefor, they make sure you qualify first.
 
Any idea on the first board review?

This is a "double edged sword" answer...

I do know the approximate date of the first board but have been specifically "ordered" not to release. ALL ALO's were told the board schedule this year is "For Official Use Only" and posting that has legal ramifications.

Let me put it this way...USAFA/RRS knows that they are going to be selecting a MUCH smaller class this cycle. Therefore they are NOT going to be in a rush to select folks...as MOST of the candidates won't be "nominated" until January 2012. USAFA/RRS is NOT going to select a large group of candidates NOW and then be faced with the problem of too many congressionally mandated "nominees/appointees" in the Spring that might cause them to go over their mandated numbers.

Apologies...USAFA/RRS: this is the Selections Branch.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
Army gives out LOA's back in the summer. You don't have to have your application completed for army.

While I believe this was true in previous years it was not the case this year.

LOA's started coming much later (Sept vs July), and were largely done in one wave. There is no indication there will be more.

Also, it appears incomplete applications (with the exception of SOE/LOR's) were not considered for USMA LOA's based on some of the emails posted in the USMA forum.

The do appear to be contingent on passing CFA, DODMERB and maintaining continued academic performance, etc.

It also looks like the overall number will be much lower, again based on MALO communications posted.
 
Hate to bring up the unwanted specter of the athlete again. But, if they aren't given assurance early and faced with the possibility of sitting in March without a definite answer, they will take the safest and sure route of committing to another school. The worst thing that could happen to a potential D1 athlete is to be without a school after the letter of intent signing in early February and all of the money at the colleges is already gone.
 
Hate to bring up the unwanted specter of the athlete again. But, if they aren't given assurance early and faced with the possibility of sitting in March without a definite answer, they will take the safest and sure route of committing to another school. The worst thing that could happen to a potential D1 athlete is to be without a school after the letter of intent signing in early February and all of the money at the colleges is already gone.
No, this is a good point and was discussed on a different thread.

Short answer. The athletic department (AD) has been "cut" the number of "LOA's" they can award. So they're going to be a bit stingy, from what Dr. Hans Meuh told us at a meeting earlier this summer.

Yes, they'll "make assurances" but their numbers have been cut. And they are figured into the "mix" and should not affect the majority of candidates. I wouldn't worry about the recruited athletes re: your daughter.

Just have her bring the BEST package forward she can!! THAT will get her to the finish line!! :thumb:

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
Also; the academy has always had a problem with recruited athletes. Because the academy isn't an actual scholarship, the recruited athlete isn't bound by commitment to the academy under NCAA rules. The "Signing" in february is strictly for "Ceremonial" purposes. If a week, month, or 4 months go by, and the athlete decides to change their mind and go play at michigan state; they are free to do so. Matter of fact; so is every single appointee free to simply change their mind up to the day they go to BCT. This is why the air force academy does NOT publish a list of recruits after signing day. Because officially, they haven't signed anyone. It's just to make the student FEEL like it's signing day. Yes, my son felt good when football signing day came, and he sat in his high school and signed the paper to play for air force. But there was nothing binding or legal about it. Not with the academy and not with the NCAA.

So for an applicant who is also a possible recruited athlete, getting an LOA is not that important. It's not like all the LOA's went to athletes. There are literally 10 page posts here about individuals who received an LOA, and they weren't athletes. And remember; an LOA, even for an athlete, means that they have to qualify and they MUST still get a nomination. We've had plenty of people, even on this forum, receive an LOA and couldn't get a nomination, and they didn't receive an appointment. I don't think a reduction of LOA's will have any impacts on athletes. There will be less athletes because of the cutback in appointments, but that's not related to LOA's.
 
Any idea on the first board review?
My daughter was told Tuesday that her package was meeting a board on the next day, so I am pretty sure there was a board on Wednesday. Not sure if that was the first board or not. USNA boards started in September. :thumb:
 
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