Texas Senators Nomination

I have noticed that Fridays seem to be the "Day to Update Info" on the Acadamy Website. Maybe check this upcoming Friday and see if there is any change.
 
homewith4:

As of last Wednesday, they had not given out all nominations due to finalizing choices (not giving duplacate nominations).

Sen John Cornyn had two cadets graduating from the USAFA, and was able to nominate 20 candidates. His Academy Coordinator also added that in years before, there have been some situations where all 10 candidiates nominated on one spot recieved an appointment.

If one nomination is extremely competative and another one that is not as competative, the more competative nomination will look better--my counselor told me that.

According to what I've heard, Texas senators recieve about 600-800 applications each year--being one of twenty is a very great accomplishment for your son. Congratulations!
 
Hmm, is it wierd that me and the other person BOTH got called by Cornyn about a nomination AND appointment? His office said I should get my acceptance packet around Dec. 8th. And, I've gotten nothing yet.

Could my "appointment" be some CRUEL joke by Cornyn?!?! :(
 
Greg, give it time the packet will come, usually they arrive Friday or Saturday, the reason why is when you see the letter, it will be dated on a Weds., thus, they go out on Thursday.

Homewith4, the reason your DS's might not be updated compared to others is because you may have a different regional, since it is done not only by region, but the letter of your last name. It will show up, and if history has not changed it usually does change on Fridays. As far as the class rank I would have your son send a 2nd polite email to the regional, you can even state in it that you would go the traditional route through the ALO, but currently he is unavailable to you. The reason I would not sit back on this is because his PAR includes the rank, so you want that to be available to the board. Everytime you add something new to your file that portion of the file will be reviewed and reweighted again. In your sit, it would be just PAR, and since PAR is 60% of the WCS, it is important to get those extra points.
 
I have seen more than one reference to Senators having 20 available slots at an Academy. Can someone explain how that works? I thought that each MOC could have a maximum of 10 on their slate at each Academy. This process is confusing.
 
It is a very simple process. At any one time an MOC can have 5 charged to them. For every 1 they can nominate 10. The AFA cadets must graduate within 4 yrs, thus, every few yrs they will have 2 charged cadets graduating, which would mean for the next class 2 slots will open. Also, if you look at the stats, @25% of the cadets will not graduate, which means a slot can open that way too. For example, class of 10 graduate 2 charged cadets, for 14 2 cadets are charged to that MOC, now during 10-11 class yr, a cadet DORs from the class of 13, which means for class of 15 the MOC has 2 openings again (one from their typical scenario, and a second from the cadet(class of 13) who left the AFA. In the Pentagon there is an office for ea SA, with a wall for every MOC that shows their charged cadets. At any given time the MOC staff can call and ask for their charged names. They are also briefed yrly on how many apptmts they have available.

From a nominee standpoint it doesn't matter because most MOCs that have 2 openings will submit 2 different slates. They do not submit one slate of 20. Hence, if you are on slate A you will not compete with slate B for the nom. What does matter is how your MOC will submit the slate...principal, rank, alphabetical. I.E. your child and their best friend are both nominated by an MOC, but since the MOC does alphabetical rank, they are placed on 2 different slates (A-M and N-Z), both can walk out with apptmts.
 
Stupid/detailed question, but my son knows one of the boys our MOC appointed three years ago. The boy should be a 2 degree at USAFA now, but left last summer due to a physical illness (couldn't complete the summer training). I know he is eligible to go back next summer if he wants to (doing ROTC now - last I knew he really didn't know if he was going back or not). Would that open an extra slot or would they just hold his slot until he either went back or decided not to (or too much time passed, etc.). Thanks!
 
homewith4:

I did forget to mention that the slates for Sen. Cornyn's nominations are not ranked. When a friend of mine told me he got a nomination, I had a list of questions I wanted to ask--that was one of them.

That is why some years all ten of his nominees have received appointments--state nominations are generally considered to be more competative than local, congressional nominations. Or, at leasts that's how it sounded.

Hope this helps!
 
Still no change in the nomination status...it will be nice to see it on the application page, or get the letter in the mail.
 
That is why some years all ten of his nominees have received appointments--state nominations are generally considered to be more competative than local, congressional nominations. Or, at leasts that's how it sounded.

Clarification needed here, especially since many posters will take that TX might be the same as ID or KY or WV. If the MOCs do not talk, it maybe highly likely that the list is not duplicated giving you 3 noms. Now look at VA where they do talk, that means you are probably on one list only. How is it that 10 kids from within your own district get in? The reason why is because after the slate appt goes out, the cadet can be pulled in from other sources, such as the Supt. Nothing against Idaho, but VA public hs are nationally ranked, which means their PAR will probably be higher. The NWL also goes through the point system, highest wins.

You also need to realize that some states have more military dependents, so they can come in from Presidential, states like CA, CO, TX, VA, NC, FLA, NY, MD, NJ and even AK or ID can have clusters of candidates that are in this category compared to WV, TN, PA.

On top of that scenario, typically where an SA is located many candidates are attracted to the SA from the allure.

In the end an MOC may say they have 10 constituents there for Class of XYZ, 10 for ABC, 10 DEF, and 10 for GHI however only 5 at any given time can be there charged to him, not 40. The real reason they have that many is a compliment to your state school system and to the caliber of the cadet.

As far as the cadet who left for medical conditions, that slot does not open until he is officially released. In your scenario, he is a medical turnback, if he gets medically cleared to go back, he doesn't go through the whole nom process again. He will come back as a turn back and go through more rigorous medical clearance on I-Day. Now if a cadet leaves due to the SA's demand based on academic reasons, than they are gone, thus the slot does open. The reason 2 slots can open often is due to the fact that 25% of each class do not graduate. Typical class comes in at the 1200-1300 marker, most class yrs graduate @1K marker. Figure it out 200-300 spread amongst 50 states, means every yr @6 from each state leaves on the average. The biggest bulk leave between C4C and C3C. I read somewhere at BCT @5% will leave before the 1st day of classes.
 
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Stupid/detailed question, but my son knows one of the boys our MOC appointed three years ago. The boy should be a 2 degree at USAFA now, but left last summer due to a physical illness (couldn't complete the summer training). I know he is eligible to go back next summer if he wants to (doing ROTC now - last I knew he really didn't know if he was going back or not). Would that open an extra slot or would they just hold his slot until he either went back or decided not to (or too much time passed, etc.). Thanks!

If that student was charged to your MOC, the MOC spot will likely remain held for his return BUT it depends somewhat on exactly what process was used when he left the SA. However, if a student actually disenrolls the spot is open. When you hear of kids leaving for a year to do a religious mission my understanding is that they are disenrolled and must reapply (through a different process and absent the unforeseen, will be readmitted). Typically a cadet is not aware of exactly who they are actually charged to. If this cadet came from the national pool, it would be moot. The MOC will be aware of the status and they will know how many spots they have available and manage them accordingly, always ensuring that to use up an extra spot in one year could leave a future year with zero openings (which, of course, they don't want to do!).
 
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