That first call

ProudDad17

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Saw DS off as he departed for his first ship beginning of the month (SWO(N) candidate). His departure was quite eventful as he navigated cancelled flights, an on-call NAVPTO who was not responding, coordinating with his sponsor on his ship and a very real possibility that he would miss his ship, as it was about to deploy. In the end it worked out and he made it to his ship in time. We got a call from him last night and it was great to hear his voice. So far, he's having a great experience. He's happy with his assigned division, speaks highly of the Chief in his division, loves being on the bridge, no seasickness and even likes the food. So happy to see him realizing the dream he had in high school. As one journey comes to a close, another one begins.
 
Saw DS off as he departed for his first ship beginning of the month (SWO(N) candidate). His departure was quite eventful as he navigated cancelled flights, an on-call NAVPTO who was not responding, coordinating with his sponsor on his ship and a very real possibility that he would miss his ship, as it was about to deploy. In the end it worked out and he made it to his ship in time. We got a call from him last night and it was great to hear his voice. So far, he's having a great experience. He's happy with his assigned division, speaks highly of the Chief in his division, loves being on the bridge, no seasickness and even likes the food. So happy to see him realizing the dream he had in high school. As one journey comes to a close, another one begins.
Classic start! And an excellent example of why there are so many recommendations here to launch DS/DD into managing their own travel planning and trouble-shooting after their first SA or ROTC college year.
 
Classic start! And an excellent example of why there are so many recommendations here to launch DS/DD into managing their own travel planning and trouble-shooting after their first SA or ROTC college year.
Great advice and something he did during his college years. Dealing with the admin unit and SATO to arrange things was a different beast though (from what he described). He did speak highly of the warrant officer at the base who was working with him through the weekend to try to get him re-scheduled. Never seen him so stressed. Then throw in the 11th hour realization that the COVID test he took on Thursday in anticipation of a Friday-Sunday departure would be no good for his new anticipated departure on Monday. He finally ends up being scheduled to fly out of San Diego Monday at about 1915 hrs to San Francisco, have a short layover then fly from San Francisco to LAX, getting in around midnight for a flight to Tokyo the next morning at 1050 hrs. We all scratched our heads on that one and well-intentioned DW offered that we could drop him at LAX in the morning and he could get a good night sleep. After all the issues getting something scheduled, DS was not about to take a chance on messing anything up and declined. Fortunately when he got the the airport in San Diego to fly out, the very nice and knowledgeable United agent looked at his itinerary and shook his head. He offered to re-book DS to fly out of San Diego the next morning to LAX to catch the same flight. After some intense questions by DS; would this change cost the Navy any extra, would it mess ANYTHING up, etc, he agreed to the change. Best of all, I got to have one more beer and meal with DS before he left. It's comical to think about now that everything worked out just fine. I kept thinking "Semper Gumby" as he was going through it.
 
First time they put out to sea or when deployed far from home whether SA or Maritime is tough. Then every time they are deployed or taking a ship around the world it gets easier when you know they are leaving but not easy while they are gone.
 
SATO has to book with contracted airlines per Govt contract for travel on orders, unless conditions exist that meet strict guidelines for exceptions. This generally means no non-stops, long layovers, and middle seats near the lavatory.
 
UCMJ Article 87. Missing Movement.
- whether through negligence or design
- punishable by court-martial.

That’s all you need to remember.
WOW! I don't believe it was either of those, but certainly glad we won't have to cross that blazing bridge.
 
True story re: Article 87 and the navy.

Former student of mine, based on a DDG out of Rota...set sail...doing their thing, pulled into France. Liberty for all!!! FUN, SUN, FRANCE!!!

72 hours later they're sailing...as they pull out of their mooring spot, they spot a sailor running down a pier.

Captain said, on the bridge to the assembled members: "We'll pick him up at our next port."

And they left him.

When they picked him up a week later...he went to Captain's Mast...my student was on the bridge at the time.

Sailor was shipped back to Rota and out processed.

Navy...they're harsh!

Steve
Flyboy
 
True story re: Article 87 and the navy.

Former student of mine, based on a DDG out of Rota...set sail...doing their thing, pulled into France. Liberty for all!!! FUN, SUN, FRANCE!!!

72 hours later they're sailing...as they pull out of their mooring spot, they spot a sailor running down a pier.

Captain said, on the bridge to the assembled members: "We'll pick him up at our next port."

And they left him.

When they picked him up a week later...he went to Captain's Mast...my student was on the bridge at the time.

Sailor was shipped back to Rota and out processed.

Navy...they're harsh!

Steve
Flyboy
I told DS I could just picture the ship pulling away from the pier as he is running to catch up; throwing his sea bag aboard and jumping onto the ship in typical TV drama fashion. Even though he was stressed at the time, he still gave an obligatory laugh at my dad humor (What happed to that thread?).

Speaking of sea bags, he said there was no training/tips on packing a sea bag. That surprised me. It seems like there has to be an optimal method to it. I'm sure YouTube has videos if he wants to look.
 
True story re: Article 87 and the navy.

Former student of mine, based on a DDG out of Rota...set sail...doing their thing, pulled into France. Liberty for all!!! FUN, SUN, FRANCE!!!

72 hours later they're sailing...as they pull out of their mooring spot, they spot a sailor running down a pier.

Captain said, on the bridge to the assembled members: "We'll pick him up at our next port."

And they left him.

When they picked him up a week later...he went to Captain's Mast...my student was on the bridge at the time.

Sailor was shipped back to Rota and out processed.

Navy...they're harsh!

Steve
Flyboy
As I noted, top five nightmare scenario for sea service people. It’s ingrained from the get-go. Fire at sea, missing ship’s movement, falling asleep on watch…

The night before an underway period, DH and I would have a nice dinner, and I would take him down to the ship at midnight to go aboard with his gear and sleep there. His mind was already in “ship mode,” and he swore he would never miss ship’s movement if he could help it. I’d go down the next AM for a quick pier meet-up and send-off embrace.
 
Anxiety dreams....

As a police officer, mine used to be getting in a shooting and the bullet getting stuck right at the tip of the barrel, sticking halfway out. Or the bullet dropping halfway to the ground a foot in front of me. Or showing up to briefing in just my underwear and duty belt. (a nightmare for anyone else in the room too I'm sure)
 
I told DS I could just picture the ship pulling away from the pier as he is running to catch up; throwing his sea bag aboard and jumping onto the ship in typical TV drama fashion. Even though he was stressed at the time, he still gave an obligatory laugh at my dad humor (What happed to that thread?).

Speaking of sea bags, he said there was no training/tips on packing a sea bag. That surprised me. It seems like there has to be an optimal method to it. I'm sure YouTube has videos if he wants to look.
While the IDC on a frigate, I had two sailors miss ships movement after they had already come aboard before we singled up lines. The first hobbled aboard with crutches and an ER report. The ER doc recommended crutches, ice, elevation, no up and down ladders, etc. for a sprained ankle. I went to the CO and told him I recommend we go with the ER doc's recommendation and leave him ashore. We were just going out ISO off the VACAPES for the week so no big deal, right? "Doc, if we let everybody with a light duty chit stay ashore then it will spread like a conflagration." Roger that, captain. I went back to sick bay and told the sailor he would have to get underway. He got up and hobbled back to the quarterdeck, went down the brow, and kept going down the pier. He reported into DESRON 2 the next day and went to CO's Mast when we got back.

The other guy, different underway period, was a bona fied nut job. I had sent him to Psych and the shrink recommended admin discharge. I took it to the same CO and he said the same thing about starting a fire out of control, blah, blah, blah. I went to him once more before we got underway and told him I thought we should cut him some orders to the squadron and leave him ashore. No, was the answer. We got underway and as soon as we cleared the pier and got into the channel he jumped over the lifelines and off the fantail. Three blasts from the ships whistle and then, "Man Overboard, man overboard." We couldn't turn of course so the captain ordered the motor whaleboat in the water. It wouldn't drop. It stuck in the davit. Meanwhile we were making way and the sailor was getting picked up by a sailboat. They took him back to the pier where by then the squadron had been notified, picked him up, and took him to the Sewell's Point clinic. We were out less than a week and the commodore was on the pier waiting for us when we got back.
 
While the IDC on a frigate, I had two sailors miss ships movement after they had already come aboard before we singled up lines. The first hobbled aboard with crutches and an ER report. The ER doc recommended crutches, ice, elevation, no up and down ladders, etc. for a sprained ankle. I went to the CO and told him I recommend we go with the ER doc's recommendation and leave him ashore. We were just going out ISO off the VACAPES for the week so no big deal, right? "Doc, if we let everybody with a light duty chit stay ashore then it will spread like a conflagration." Roger that, captain. I went back to sick bay and told the sailor he would have to get underway. He got up and hobbled back to the quarterdeck, went down the brow, and kept going down the pier. He reported into DESRON 2 the next day and went to CO's Mast when we got back.

The other guy, different underway period, was a bona fied nut job. I had sent him to Psych and the shrink recommended admin discharge. I took it to the same CO and he said the same thing about starting a fire out of control, blah, blah, blah. I went to him once more before we got underway and told him I thought we should cut him some orders to the squadron and leave him ashore. No, was the answer. We got underway and as soon as we cleared the pier and got into the channel he jumped over the lifelines and off the fantail. Three blasts from the ships whistle and then, "Man Overboard, man overboard." We couldn't turn of course so the captain ordered the motor whaleboat in the water. It wouldn't drop. It stuck in the davit. Meanwhile we were making way and the sailor was getting picked up by a sailboat. They took him back to the pier where by then the squadron had been notified, picked him up, and took him to the Sewell's Point clinic. We were out less than a week and the commodore was on the pier waiting for us when we got back.
Proof positive of what happens when a future senior chief and current IDC corpsman isn’t listened to.

You can’t make this stuff up, because this happens in real life frequently enough that every veteran and AD person here can relate stories in this area.

We could start an entire thread on “What My Sailor, Airman, Marine, Coast Guardsman, Guardian (?!), Soldier Did To Him/Herself To Get Out Of Deployment.”

I had two sailors agree to shoot each other in the foot and claim they were mugged. One guy apparently closed his eyes while shooting and nicked the femoral artery of his buddy, though fast action by bystanders and EMTs resulted in him not dying. They staged this at a 7-11 parking lot at night in a dicey part of Long Beach. Needless to say, their story quickly fell apart. Fun note for future junior officers reading this - guess who gets to do the detailed JAGMAN incident investigations for line of duty/misconduct findings on these? Yes, junior officers, as a rite of passage.
 
There are true stories and more true stories you can tell and no one will ever believe. I once came off a Midnight shift and was told to watch an airman who had threatened suicide. I asked if I could just give him a shaving razor and go back to my quarters ? Major said No. They did eventualy take him away.
 
There are true stories and more true stories you can tell and no one will ever believe. I once came off a Midnight shift and was told to watch an airman who had threatened suicide. I asked if I could just give him a shaving razor and go back to my quarters ? Major said No. They did eventualy take him away.
As Command Duty Officer on an Amphib, I once had a sailor chained in leg Irons within the MAA office for the rest of the night until we could get a combination of medical and law enforcement to deal with the individual's issues.
By the way, he never missed movement as he ended up back aboard before we sailed. From then on though, he remained aboard as a Liberty Risk until we returned to homeport (4 months later) and he was administratively discharged.

NOTE: This sailor (aprox 5'6"/140LBS) started a fistfight with five large Marines while waiting for the liberty boat to return to the ship. The Beach Guard broke it up and separated them. Then he started another fight with different people on the Liberty Boat, Once aboard ship, the boat crew turned him over the OOD (and me) and we ordered him below to his rack. Approx 5 minutes later he was up on the f'ocsle screaming "I'm going to kill myself" at which point I had him taken into custody and restrained in the MAA office.

And that's not the craziest true story I witnessed. After all, I was once the Shore Patrol Officer in Gitmo on a weekend night when we had four ships in port.
 
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As Command Duty Officer on an Amphib, I once had a sailor chained in leg Irons within the MAA office for the rest of the night until we could get a combination of medical and law enforcement to deal with the individual's issues.
By the way, he never missed movement as he ended up back aboard before we sailed. From then on though, he remained aboard as a Liberty Risk until we returned to homeport (4 months later) and he was administratively discharged.

NOTE: This sailor (aprox 5'6"/140LBS) started a fistfight with five large Marines while waiting for the liberty boat to return to the ship. The Beach Guard broke it up and separated them. Then he started another fight with different people on the Liberty Boat, Once aboard ship, the boat crew turned him over the OOD (and me) and we ordered him below to his rack. Approx 5 minutes later he was up on the f'ocsle screaming "I'm going to kill myself" at which point I had him taken into custody and restrained in the MAA office.

And that's not the craziest true story I witnessed. After all, I was once the Shore Patrol Officer in Gitmo on a weekend night when we had four ships in port.
Say I more. Shore Patrol. GITMO. Weekend. Four ships.
 
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