The Gunsmith Thread

[THParent]

Could it be due to the higher pressure?
A suppressor designed for .300 Win Mag would probably be better for 6.5 Creedmoor, but any .308 diameter suppressor should work.

It's a 6.5mm projectile going through 7.62mm baffle holes. It should be fine, unless;
1. There is something wrong with the installation of the can. It was properly shimmed and timed, right?
2. There is something wrong with the baffles in the can or the end cap.
3. The bullet is wobbling on the way out of the muzzle. Not likely, or you would have noticed severe accuracy issues before installing the can!

I am interested in what the manufacturer says when they evaluate it. Please report back!

 

[THParent]

Do you have a quick-change muzzle device which allows you to shoot with or without the suppressor installed?
If that is the case, was that muzzle device properly shimmed, timed, and without a crush washer?

A single crush washer anywhere in the application of a suppressor will be a sure way to get baffle strikes.

 

[raimius]

No crush washer, and the muzzle device bore is centered (checked with a Geissele rod). It's either an improperly machined exterior on the muzzle device or the can itself. Can is on the way back to the factory for inspection.

 

[THParent]

That makes sense if you only had an end cap strike and no baffle strikes. I am very interested in what they say about it.
Being serialized and all, they probably won't replace the whole can but you'll no doubt get a new end cap.

 

[Skipper07]

2023 class pistols

 

[Skipper07]

I’ve commented about Retay shotguns and their customer service on SAF in the past. Some more to add on two experiences with their customer service reps.

1. My trigger group was slightly loose in the housing. This was purely a cosmetic issue. I wrote an email and had a new trigger group within a week free of charge.
2. I blew a 10¢ o-ring on the bolt. Looked up the part number, shot Retay an email asking where to buy replacements as they weren’t on the website. I received the email below:

“We shipped a new bolt housing that has been updated and eliminates the need for the o ring. Though now I track it, it was refused and returned to shipper, we have not received it but I'm sending another today 2 Day”

Yep, a brand new bolt housing instead of a 10¢ o-ring that I could’ve bought at the local gun store.

 

[brewmeist]

2023 class pistols

I am going to purchase the "display" model. I was going to buy another one for my son as a graduation gift, but then realized this one will be his once I am 6 ft under, so why bother? One is enough

I would love to be able to display this pistol, but in this day and age, the traditional glass cabinet is unfortunately obsolete. All of my other firearms are locked up in a very boring safe. They are securely tucked away, but unseen. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to display this piece of art while still keeping it secure from theft?

 

[NJROTC-CC]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to display this piece of art while still keeping it secure from theft?

But in reality, there is no way to display it that is theft proof. How about firearms insurance?

 

[nature boy]

I just have to chime in here and give my opinion of AR-15 style rifles. It's a $500 rifle. I don't care what name is on it or whether or not it has fancy doo-dahs or a match barrel and retails for $3,500.

It's still a $500 rifle.

Yes, I got in at $469.99! My Dad ended up winning a Glock 19 in one of the local volunteer firefighter lottery calendars he buys every year. So, he gave that to me. So, I purchased a complete AR mid-length kit off of PSA for $469.99. Chambered in5.56 NATO, 16" barrel, a 1/7 twist rate, and it doesn't have the M4 front site pin. The kit came with a Magpul lower that has the "enhanced polished" trigger. I got it all put together last weekend and got out to put rounds down range. I was somewhat familiar with the BCG and drop in triggers and other aspects of weapons, but I have to say "building one" provided a certain satisfaction and appreciation of the tool. Anyway, It has a smooth action and I shot well with it. The only things I plan on buying for it at this point are a sling, an ambi-charging handle and an optic (undecided whether I'll go with a LPVO, red dot, holographic, or prism).

 

[nature boy]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to display this piece of art while still keeping it secure from theft?

 

[flieger83]

Yes, I got in at $469.99! My Dad ended up winning a Glock 19 in one of the local volunteer firefighter lottery calendars he buys every year. So, he gave that to me. So, I purchased a complete AR mid-length kit off of PSA for $469.99. Chambered in5.56 NATO, 16" barrel, a 1/7 twist rate, and it doesn't have the M4 front site pin. The kit came with a Magpul lower that has the "enhanced polished" trigger. I got it all put together last weekend and got out to put rounds down range. I was somewhat familiar with the BCG and drop in triggers and other aspects of weapons, but I have to say "building one" provided a certain satisfaction and appreciation of the tool. Anyway, It has a smooth action and I shot well with it. The only things I plan on buying for it at this point are a sling, an ambi-charging handle and an optic (undecided whether I'll go with a LPVO, red dot, holographic, or prism).

Make it pricey, put an ACOG on it!

 

[NJROTC-CC]

Make it pricey, put an ACOG on it!

I used to shoot in NRA Service Rifle competition with a pre-ban A2 that had a White Oak Armament match built upper, Compass Lake lower with Geissele two stage trigger, weight in the stock, a legal diopter in the rear aperture, Les Tam sling, etc. It ain’t no $500 gun.

 

[nature boy]

Make it pricey, put an ACOG on it!

I'm on more of a Primary Arms/Holuson/Sig Sauer budget, or maybe the Vortex Strike Eagle.

 

[flieger83]

I'm on more of a Primary Arms/Holuson/Sig Sauer budget, or maybe the Vortex Strike Eagle.

As was I until I spent some time with the Marines at Pendleton. They asked if I wanted to go "qualify" with them.

Sure says the steely-eyed, iron-jawed fighter guy...(besides, I shot expert small arms with rifle/pistol before...)

SO there I was on the 200m range...doing pretty good I thought...but all these teenagers were seriously on target...SERIOUSLY!

So I asked the GySgt..."Ya'll do a LOT of this...your marines are really good!"

"Nah, most of them are adequate but they've got Trijicon ACOGs, we gave you the iron sights..."

He then instructed me in the use of their ACOG...and I saw the results.

And that's when I budgeted for that sucker!!

 

[Old Navy BGO]

I would love to be able to display this pistol, but in this day and age, the traditional glass cabinet is unfortunately obsolete.

I have a gun display case that is supposed to be pretty secure. It is a hand me down from my father, and built by Amish craftsmen somewhere here in the Midwest. It has a steel beam , locked in place, and plexiglass panels that provide pretty good security. It's certainly not safe secure...but its pretty good.

 

[brewmeist]

So after spending $200 for a tax stamp to build my suppressor and then doing everything by the book to legally build an AR pistol, I am finding out that I may now become a felon if I do not get another tax stamp. Three years later...

Here's my question... If I want to continue legally enjoying time at the range with my soon-to-be-former-legal-pistol, I'll have no choice but to get the stamp. However, I understand that the ATF is at least forgiving the $200 fee. If I go ahead with getting the stamp, is there anything preventing me from removing the pistol brace and putting on a stock? Because as I see it, I will soon be owning a short barreled rifle by 'redefinition.' That is something I wanted to do in the first place, but didn't have any desire to send an extra $200 to get permission from the government to do so.

 

[raimius]

So after spending $200 for a tax stamp to build my suppressor and then doing everything by the book to legally build an AR pistol, I am finding out that I may now become a felon if I do not get another tax stamp. Three years later...

Here's my question... If I want to continue legally enjoying time at the range with my soon-to-be-former-legal-pistol, I'll have no choice but to get the stamp. However, I understand that the ATF is at least forgiving the $200 fee. If I go ahead with getting the stamp, is there anything preventing me from removing the pistol brace and putting on a stock? Because as I see it, I will soon be owning a short barreled rifle by 'redefinition.' That is something I wanted to do in the first place, but didn't have any desire to send an extra $200 to get permission from the government to do so.

Exactly how the ATF thinks they are going to do things isn't out yet. They talked about a new form to register without paying for the stamp, but it went to a non-existent form. They also don't have legal authority to rewrite the GCA of 1968 definition of a SBR or waive the tax...so....??? They really are acting arbitrarily and inviting a host of lawsuits which will take years to sort out. If you want an SBR, it might suit you to figure out the "free" registration...once the ATF does.

If you have AR-15s, I'd recommend putting a slick buffer tube on the pistol and having a rifle-length upper for the braced lower, for now. That seems to be the legally reasonable way, until thing
s get sorted out, imo.

 

[brewmeist]

If you want an SBR, it might suit you to figure out the "free" registration...once the ATF does.

That's the only benefit I see to this whole thing.

 

[THParent]

Once you have a SBR, you can indeed take the brace off and replace it with any sort of rifle stock you desire.

I wouldn't flock to the ATF site and apply for your free SBR tax stamp, however. The courts will decide well before this 120-day window closes, as to whether or not the ATF's new proposal to reclassify hundreds of thousands of pistols will be allowed to go forward. My guess is "no".

 

[raimius]

Could it be due to the higher pressure?
A suppressor designed for .300 Win Mag would probably be better for 6.5 Creedmoor, but any .308 diameter suppressor should work.

It's a 6.5mm projectile going through 7.62mm baffle holes. It should be fine, unless;
1. There is something wrong with the installation of the can. It was properly shimmed and timed, right?
2. There is something wrong with the baffles in the can or the end cap.
3. The bullet is wobbling on the way out of the muzzle. Not likely, or you would have noticed severe accuracy issues before installing the can!

I am interested in what the manufacturer says when they evaluate it. Please report back!

They rebuilt it. Suppressor was apparently built off-axis.