The Gunsmith Thread

Do you think it is a MIM part?

As a slight thread drift # 1, here is me shooting:

Bill Drill with a Beretta Langdon Elite Model 92

I have since learned that a Bill Drill is a hands naturally relaxed at sides start.

I used to be a quasi sponsored shooter.

Side drift #2, I also dabbled in making 1911 grips:

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I would also take different colored construction paper, and run them through a shredder. Then I would mix this “confetti” together with a 2 part epoxy. This concoction would get clamped into a channel iron mould. A day or two later after the epoxy dried, I would drill it, cut it, and shape it into 1911 grips:

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Have you ever tried checkering wood?

I think I might get back into it. And teach myself how to checker.
 
THParent said:
That's the crappiest looking disconnector I have ever seen. What is that foreign object and how did it get in there?
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Yeah, I would expect better from LMT...not sure where they were getting parts in the 2008 timeframe.

I'm not sure on the FOD. It is plastic, so maybe a piece of a rifle case?? (A couple parts of the case are pretty beat up).
 
Chockstock said:
Sionics
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Pretty expensive stuff, there. It looks well made, but...

My opinion of the AR-15 is that a rifle or carbine-length example is a $500 firearm. You can certainly pay a lot more than that, by I don't know why anyone would want to. A rifle, carbine, or pistol chambered in 5.56x45 isn't really good for much other than putting holes in paper (very loudly I might add) or dispatching pesky varmints like coyotes, when you don't want them eating your chickens. I guess you could use one for "personal defense", but again, they are really loud and make a pretty brilliant flash. If you shoot one at a burglar in your house, you'll be blinded and enjoy permanent hearing damage.

I can make a flat top (optics ready) AR-15 from parts in about 20 minutes for $350.00.

In summary, a pig in a dress is still a pig. ;)
 
That would be the right thing to put on it, too. Those things are great. :)
 
THParent said:
That would be the right thing to put on it, too. Those things are great. :)
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I know. I'm a long-range marksman...it's been a sport I've been in for decades and I pride myself in precision.

I took a bunch of cadets to Camp Pendleton...firearms safety course...then a 200m test in their simulator. I was making head shots on moving targets...I said "Uh, no...nice game."

So a Master Gunner took me out to the range...handed me a rifle...

That thing is a game-changer!!
(I almost put one on my NM Colt AR-15...but the price...)
 
THParent said:
Pretty expensive stuff, there. It looks well made, but...

My opinion of the AR-15 is that a rifle or carbine-length example is a $500 firearm. You can certainly pay a lot more than that, by I don't know why anyone would want to. A rifle, carbine, or pistol chambered in 5.56x45 isn't really good for much other than putting holes in paper (very loudly I might add) or dispatching pesky varmints like coyotes, when you don't want them eating your chickens. I guess you could use one for "personal defense", but again, they are really loud and make a pretty brilliant flash. If you shoot one at a burglar in your house, you'll be blinded and enjoy permanent hearing damage.

I can make a flat top (optics ready) AR-15 from parts in about 20 minutes for $350.00.

In summary, a pig in a dress is still a pig. ;)
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The AR platform and 5.56 seems to work pretty well for the folks who use them for professional work.

Sure, terminal performance from ball ammo suffers at distance, if using something like a 10.5in barrel. MK262 loads seemed to get good reviews from serious users in southwest Asia.
 
Eugene Stoner did a good job and it was useful for a long time and probably will be for years to come. I am a bit jaded, I will admit. ;)
 
THParent said:
He should take it back to the store and have them send it back to Glock.
Glock will send them a pre-paid mailing label (free shipping) and they'll get it back in a few weeks.

The gun store or gunsmith (if they have one) may charge a diagnostic or handling fee, but it will be worth it in the long run. One should expect a Glock to work flawlessly with any type of ammunition. That's what they do so well. They aren't much to look at, but they usually work great.

If he doesn't want to take it back to the store, he can also box it up and send it to Glock directly. As a private citizen, you can ship a firearm directly to a FFL holder. If he Emails them (addresses in my previous post) they will send him a checklist of what to do and a pre-paid "call tag".
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So the club shot again last month & my friend brought 4 boxes of different ammo. 3 out 4 shot with no problem with the exception of the Winchester white box FTF (again). Looked as if more than 3/4's of the round entered the chamber than stopped. Anyway he does not want to send it back to Glock & wants to put more rounds thru it so...I will say he's open to instruction but is adamant about returning to the gun store. It is what it is.
Lastly, with many LEO's switching from 40 cal to 9mm (or back to?) there seems to be many Glock LEO trade-ins available from firearm retail stores which seel thru the internet. A friend of mine got a Glock 22 Gen 3 for $329 (Grade 2 out of 3 w/grade 3 being $20 less but with only 1 mag while grade 2 came with 2.) which appeared to be unfired other than the 2 spent shell casings from the factory that were in the case! I know our forum doesn't permit advertising so I'll say these places are out there. And the Bible story about someone blowing a trumpet was one of my favorites.
 
A customer brought this in last night. It was a previously new-out-of-the-box un-fired crappy polymer AR-15 pistol chambered in 5.56x45.

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Genius loaded up a mag with .300 blackout and fired the first and only round...
A classic S.C.L.I.D. (Sudden Catastrophic Load Induced Disassembly) AKA: a "Kaboom", occurred shortly thereafter.

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Kinda funny it's on "SAFE", because It's about as safe as any firearm can be at this point.:p
 
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The green plastic above the charging handle and the silver pieces of crappy pot metal (which are used ostensibly for rigidity inside the polymer receiver) are the only pieces of the upper which didn't turn themselves into shrapnel.

Customer says: "I bought it here".

Me: "No you didn't. Not only do we not sell polymer AR-15s, we don't work on them, we don't buy them, we don't take them in trade, and we never have".

Customer: "Oh. Well, I want you to send it back, then. It's defective."

Me: "The only thing defective here is the operator, that's a .300 blackout round in there".

Dingus (not really a customer, at this point): "How do you know?"

Me: "Because I see this on average once a month with people who don't label their magazines and/or ammunition"

Dingus: "Can it be repaired?"

Me: "I can probably save the buffer tube, brace, barrel, and hand guard. Everything else in between is worthless".

Dingus: "I'll think about it".

Me: "You do that. In the meantime - go buy a lottery ticket - because you're lucky to be alive".
 
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THParent said:
Pretty expensive stuff, there. It looks well made, but...

My opinion of the AR-15 is that a rifle or carbine-length example is a $500 firearm. You can certainly pay a lot more than that, by I don't know why anyone would want to. A rifle, carbine, or pistol chambered in 5.56x45 isn't really good for much other than putting holes in paper (very loudly I might add) or dispatching pesky varmints like coyotes, when you don't want them eating your chickens. I guess you could use one for "personal defense", but again, they are really loud and make a pretty brilliant flash. If you shoot one at a burglar in your house, you'll be blinded and enjoy permanent hearing damage.

I can make a flat top (optics ready) AR-15 from parts in about 20 minutes for $350.00.

In summary, a pig in a dress is still a pig. ;)
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Really? I felt that $1,300 was reasonable for an AR15.

What do you suggest for home defense?
 
Chockstock said:
Really? I felt that $1,300 was reasonable for an AR15.

What do you suggest for home defense?
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"My" personal opinion.

You don't want a super high-velocity hi-powered rifle for home defense, unless you're setting up a perimeter, have an observation post, etc.

A good old-fashioned Mossberg 12 gauge...or similar weapon will do the trick. Hi-power goes through walls, hits other houses, and might endanger innocents...a 12 gauge just deals with the threat.
 
flieger83 said:
"My" personal opinion.

You don't want a super high-velocity hi-powered rifle for home defense, unless you're setting up a perimeter, have an observation post, etc.

A good old-fashioned Mossberg 12 gauge...or similar weapon will do the trick. Hi-power goes through walls, hits other houses, and might endanger innocents...a 12 gauge just deals with the threat.
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It depends on bullet selection. 55 grain .223 actually tends to penetrate fewer layers of drywall than 9x19 and several shotgun loadings (slugs in particular). That is because .223 destabilizes relatively easily.

That said, any round able to stop an attacker will go through a sheetrock wall.
 
Ok, I've been considering shotguns too.

Next question is on bird or buckshot...and what number. I'm thinking birdshot (think townhome) but what are your thoughts? I know this is a pretty hotly debated topic haha.
 
Chockstock said:
Ok, I've been considering shotguns too.

Next question is on bird or buckshot...and what number. I'm thinking birdshot (think townhome) but what are your thoughts? I know this is a pretty hotly debated topic haha.
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Buckshot stops attackers more reliably. Bird shot penetrates walls less effectively.
I would advise considering what your angles of fire would be (which is easier if you don't go searching around for intruders).
 
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