It appears so, but what i would really like to know the reasons for not graduating - resignation, administrative, academic, or medical.
The Military Prep School Scam
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It appears so, but what i would really like to know the reasons for not graduating - resignation, administrative, academic, or medical.
I think your numbers are off or I'm misreading something; there's no way there were 800+ prepsters in a class of 1200
Unless you are adding four classes together. Too much math for the summer
osdad was citing 4 year numbers, but his estimate of number of USMAPS cadet candidates in that cohort does not match the number given in the study -- the total number at USMAPS during that time is shown as 964
The 58% rate is the rate of USMAPS enrollees who graduated from USMA, not the graduation rate from USMA of USMAPS graduates who reported on R-Day
The paragraph immediately preceding the "Conclusion" heading (as well as the conclusion itself) is worth re-reading.
The 58% rate is the rate of USMAPS enrollees who graduated from USMA, not the graduation rate from USMA of USMAPS graduates who reported on R-Day
The paragraph immediately preceding the "Conclusion" heading (as well as the conclusion itself) is worth re-reading.
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When I first scanned the report it sounded reasonable, then I noticed something odd... the main point in the conclusion which indicated the prep schools had similar graduation rates to direct admits referenced different time periods than the supporting tables that showed demographic representation.
Does not pass the sniff test... there may be reasons to use different time periods but they need to note why. Especially since the metrics they are referring to were available in all the data sets.
So this comes across to me like someone cherry picked the data, and would not pass a college prof sniff test, much less the hard nosed types I deal with daily.
So then I look for the author... there is none. It's an "issue" paper by the diversity office, which (surprise) indicates the prep schools are doing a great job supporting diversity requirements.
Which they may be, I don't have an axe to grind there. But this paper sure does not prove it, it's just sloppy analysis.
OK, but a 42% drop rate does not support the conclusion that the prep schools are effective in making officers. Especially given that we don't know how many of the kids would did graduate would have succeeded if they'd been a direct admission or if they'd been sent to a ROTC unit.
(I think it reasonable to assume that the FB & basketball & lacrosse teams would have been worse. And that's the real scam.
)Agree on the discrepancy re: years. It is questionable. Also note that only one year of data delineated recruited athletes, so any mention of them in the study could be misleading.
Except the purpose of the prep school is not making officers (indirectly it is) rather getting kids ready for West Point.
OK, but a 42% drop rate does not support the conclusion that the prep schools are effective in making officers. Especially given that we don't know how many of the kids would did graduate would have succeeded if they'd been a direct admission or if they'd been sent to a ROTC unit.
(I think it reasonable to assume that the FB & basketball & lacrosse teams would have been worse. And that's the real scam.
You might want to re-read the conclusion of the study, because it is not the same as the one you refute.
As for FB, BB, and LAX (or any other sport), it's easy to reach a conclusion when you already know what you believe.
Thinking, which is dangerous, I wonder if we can use Ranger school graduation rate demographic to draw a different conclusion. I believe officers have higher graduation rate than enlisted and soldiers from the Ranger Reg has higher graduation rate, and certain MOS has higher graduation rate than other. If so, should we only allow certain units to send students to Ranger school, probably not. As a purpose of Ranger school is to provide Ranger qualified soldiers to fill specific slots, not just produce Ranger qualified soldiers. There are many ways to produce great officers, so the question becomes how much role does sports play in it and how can we quantify it to determine its usefulness?