The USAFA Question

Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by The Blue Baron, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. dgusafa

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    I met my ALO once and we had email correspondence. I was interviewed by someone from out of state. I was told this could happen during the first meeting.
     
  2. BBBRRRTT

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    Thanks for the clarification, as you may have noticed, sometimes I post things on this forum a little over the top to get a response. It tends to work for gaining further information(as it did here). For the record, I even said the beer and newspaper comment was for illustrative effect, but I get it, for those that don't appreciate my use of sarcasm, I can see how it would look irresponsible of me. As for a 30 year colonel making $46,275 in retirement after their service, I am shocked(that sounds low). Now if that's an additional $46,275 for the ALO work then I am shocked in the other direction. As for points and 50 per year and 5000 total....I will be honest I get a little lost when airlines and credit cards companies start talking bonus points. Typically they talk points in order to confuse the consumer.....but really I appreciate what you all do, just wanted to get some more info. Finally, I will state without any open auditing of results of applications by an oversight group, I have to assume it's the admissions way or the highway, and yes as a government entity, I believe there should be publically verifiable oversight in the entire admissions process. As one of the long timers on this forum once challenged me, I will throw out a healthy challenge to you as well. First, I would love to see a government chart(current year) that shows the retirement of a 30 year colonel at 46K per year. Secondly, I would challenge you to post an audit performed by an oversight group that evaluates the admissions process.
     
  3. The Blue Baron

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    Now that @BBBRRRTT posts..
    A question:
    Is this all on purpose in the "weeding out" sense?
    Seeing the stereotypes vids..
     
  4. BBBRRRTT

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    Life is a "weed out", eventually we all are "weeded out":)
     
  5. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator 10-Year Member

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    "As for a 30 year colonel making $46,275 in retirement after their service, I am shocked(that sounds low). Now if that's an additional $46,275 for the ALO work then I am shocked in the other direction. As for points and 50 per year and 5000 total....I will be honest I get a little lost when airlines and credit cards companies start talking bonus points. Typically they talk points in order to confuse the consumer.....but really I appreciate what you all do, just wanted to get some more info. Finally, I will state without any open auditing of results of applications by an oversight group, I have to assume it's the admissions way or the highway, and yes as a government entity, I believe there should be publicly verifiable oversight in the entire admissions process. As one of the long timers on this forum once challenged me, I will throw out a healthy challenge to you as well. First, I would love to see a government chart(current year) that shows the retirement of a 30 year colonel at 46K per year. Secondly, I would challenge you to post an audit performed by an oversight group that evaluates the admissions process."

    First, I "cherry picked" the parts I wanted to address, so not all is here. Second...the monies I described for a 30 year reserve colonel was based upon my own example and nobody else's. I have 14 years of active duty and 18 years of reserve duty. That's how I picked up @5,200 points. An active duty retirement at 20 years actually has 7,300 points but active duty members don't realize that, typically (I was never told about points when I was active duty). And the amount was for their service; not ALO duty, that's part of their service if they're Cat "E" status. And FYI...military pay charts are public knowledge, available all over the internet. You can see how much anyone in the military is paid. Understanding the retirement process will allow you to determine what the retirement check would be. Had I stayed on active duty for 30 years and retired as a colonel...the "pension" if you will would be: $104,400.00 per annum. That figure because I would qualify for the 50% at 20 years plus 2 1/2 % per year afterward, which equates to 75% of the base pay, which is $139,200.00.

    Public oversight of the admissions process is performed by the academy board of visitors. They're easy to identify via the web and you can see who they are and what they do. As for "throwing me a challenge" frankly, you can try but to what end, I don't know. I just gave you the retirement information for me; it's different for every member, and right now with members falling under several retirement plans, you'll have to do the due diligence. As for challenging me to post an audit of the admissions process; again, you'll have to contact the board of visitors about that. They report to the SECDEF via the superintendent, CofS, and SECAF. You can read all about their duties in their bylaws which are posted online.

    But we digress...we should move back to the topic.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  6. BBBRRRTT

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    I appreciate your candor. You sir are truly what makes this country great! Thank you for your ongoing service.
     
  7. The Blue Baron

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    What you guys think? I've obtained contraire advice with that..ie the warm-hearted lady who was reviewing my essay..
     
  8. 2021mom

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    Interesting video. Wait, that's not a proper sentence!
    I never start a sentence with and, but, or because. But sometimes I do.
    Prepositions, colons, well, that all depends. But on a forum, grammar rules and my general lackadaisical writing style don't matter. If you are writing an essay for your college application, however, I'd suggest you do your best to clean up the grammar.
    It's your essay, your words. Make sure your command of the English language and usage do not distract from your message. You should be able to improve any sentence by rewriting it so you are no using or misusing any controversial point of grammar. When it comes to editing your essays, if you are not confidant with the advice you received from one warm-hearted lady, go ask another. :)
     
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  9. fencersmother

    fencersmother 10-Year Member Founding Member

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    Not exactly kindly considering those folks who give up their time and energy to assist young folks. Want a response? Put your finger in a light socket.

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  10. BBBRRRTT

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    Thank you for your advice. I like to think my contributions to the forum have been fruitful and helpful to some. Perhaps you don't like the circuitous route I use to get to some information. Frankly, I am enjoying the sharing of ideas on this forum, and find it to be quite a nice resource for all.
     
  11. kittkatt

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    Seems like we're feeding a troll.
     
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  12. BBBRRRTT

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    I shall wear my "troll" badge with pride:) BBBRRRTT-"the one eyed" troll. I like it!
     
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  13. raimius

    raimius 10-Year Member

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    If you think people around here (or elsewhere...like the service academies) really appreciate those who actively try to be disruptive and act disrespectful toward those who are trying to help them...you might want to stop and reassess.
     
  14. Stealth_81

    Stealth_81 Super Moderator 10-Year Member Founding Member

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    So you are here to troll this board?

    Stealth_81
     
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  15. The Blue Baron

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    The last 2 posters..really?:cool:
    Hint: Why are there "" in his comment?
    @Stealth_81 ..yours especially seems like a SIRI reply. Or like policemen in a station in a slow month looking for some action.
    Yeah. Every bit helps; The latest being garnering a bit more of respect for the SA's and me already forming a group for SB. Thanks.
     
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  16. ginapenny

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    It has become very disheartening to read some of these threads. I've found this to be a very helpful site. I've gotten great answers to my many questions. For some of you that want to be disrespectful, rude and quite frankly spending too much time looking around to only go back and forth with people that are trying to help......please, please stop. There are founding members, moderators and service men and women that are ONLY trying to be helpful in this arena. I'm trying not to get off of this all together because it has become really outrageous with a few of these comments, that are quite frankly hard to understand at times. Please allow those that are taking this process seriously to have a platform to do so. If that's not your aim try and refrain from all the negativity.

    As I've said before, thank you to all who have taken the time to give sound advice and answer questions. If no one else says it, thank you for your service!!! That means on this site as well. You all did not have to take the time to do this but you do and I certainly appreciate it.
     
  17. BBBRRRTT

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    I appreciate the advice and shall pull it back per your request. I did not realize the majority of my comments were coming across as disruptive and disrespectful. For that I apologize to all those offended. I have had a few "moments" that I spoke without considering the broad audience that read this, but for those instances, I felt I explained my position and apologized where necessary.
    As for disruptors, I have always been a big fan of positive disruptors. Just off the cuff a few of my favorite disruptors are Jesus(Overturning the tables in the temple) and our Commander-in-Chief (Draining the swamp). They appear to have made very positive impacts on people, organizations, and society as a whole. I can think of many examples of positive disruptors being good for organizations.
    I can only ask that the forum keep an open mind and understand that we all have flaws and none of us are perfect. "let him who is without sin cast the first stone" p.o. John 8:7



     
  18. BBBRRRTT

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    Not my goal at all. I only mentioned the "troll" word since kittkatt had mentioned feeding a troll.

    My primary goal of contributing to the forum was my original post regarding "Blue Chip" and "Recruited Athlete" technical meaning at USAFA. I believe that thread has been a pure success in putting out much needed information regarding the lack of a technical meaning of these terms. As with the number of views being well over 6000, I would have to say many others have found the thread quite valuable as well. So no, trolling is not my intent, getting sound information out to recruits was.
     
  19. hornetguy

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    I quote the UN general assembly:
    BAHAHAHAHA.
     
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  20. The Blue Baron

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    Speaking of which, I/We'll do a UN Assembly(Model UN) tomorrow.