<---This Girl Wants To Go To West Point
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Make sure you have trig and or pre-calc on your schedule next year. It wouldn't do you much good to get your ACT Math up to a good score and then to be academically disqualified for not taking a sufficient math class.
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Well that's better than not having those. But the curriculum, regardless of your major, is heavily math and science oriented. Therefore Calculus and Physics or Chemistry at the highest level your school offers, or the highest you think you can handle, is better.
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Thank you, sir.
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Hey Kelsi!
I'm Jackie, and going to be a part of the Class of 2018.
Strive to excel in the Scholar, Athlete, Leader categories as much as possible.
As much as you are graded on a point scale, WP is extremely holistic as well and takes everything into consideration.
My key points of advice to you include:
Max out on the CFA as much as possible. Yes, you're a female, yes the standards are lower for us than makes, but never meet the standard always go above and beyond. Every point in the end counts towards you, not against you. (However, if you do 50 which is the max for push-ups going over the max will not help your score)
Girls State is GREAT---I went and not only is it a fabulous leadership experience but it is also great on your WP resume
Mail every interview. Clean, professional look stare them in the eyes and be clear with what you want and what you hope to achieve at WP and beyond.
Motivation: you must be motivated yourself. This cannot be fulfilled by your parents, your coach, or your friends. As much as your parents should help you, they should not be helping you more than signing papers and giving you rides to interviews etc. This is your life, your call.
3.7 is good. But bump up those ACT and SAT scores I advise you take both as many times as possible to max out. You must meet the average ACT SAT scores---that can only benefit you. Above average would give you more points, more points the better.
Lastly, if you are a Scholar Athlete and Leader, and extremely motivated to go to WP and show it by following up with thank you notes, calls, updating your profile, etc,. That appointment will come. You must want it more than anything in the world. Good luck to you and if you have any questions, please message me!
Jackie, USMA USAFA USMMA Candidate for Class of 2018
Principally Nominated to USMA & USAFA
Appointed to USMA and USAFA
USMA Class of 2018
I'm Jackie, and going to be a part of the Class of 2018.
Strive to excel in the Scholar, Athlete, Leader categories as much as possible.
As much as you are graded on a point scale, WP is extremely holistic as well and takes everything into consideration.
My key points of advice to you include:
Max out on the CFA as much as possible. Yes, you're a female, yes the standards are lower for us than makes, but never meet the standard always go above and beyond. Every point in the end counts towards you, not against you. (However, if you do 50 which is the max for push-ups going over the max will not help your score)
Girls State is GREAT---I went and not only is it a fabulous leadership experience but it is also great on your WP resume
Mail every interview. Clean, professional look stare them in the eyes and be clear with what you want and what you hope to achieve at WP and beyond.
Motivation: you must be motivated yourself. This cannot be fulfilled by your parents, your coach, or your friends. As much as your parents should help you, they should not be helping you more than signing papers and giving you rides to interviews etc. This is your life, your call.
3.7 is good. But bump up those ACT and SAT scores I advise you take both as many times as possible to max out. You must meet the average ACT SAT scores---that can only benefit you. Above average would give you more points, more points the better.
Lastly, if you are a Scholar Athlete and Leader, and extremely motivated to go to WP and show it by following up with thank you notes, calls, updating your profile, etc,. That appointment will come. You must want it more than anything in the world. Good luck to you and if you have any questions, please message me!
Jackie, USMA USAFA USMMA Candidate for Class of 2018
Principally Nominated to USMA & USAFA
Appointed to USMA and USAFA
USMA Class of 2018
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Jackie,
Congratulations on your appointment! Thanks for the information, too. I will most definitely be working on my file and I hope to be joining you next summer/fall.
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Hi Jakie! Thank you for all this information. Although it was directed toward Kelsi, it really helped me as well (another candidate for USMA CO 2019) and congratulations!!
Kelsi, I PMed you
and congratulations!!Kelsi, I PMed you
Get the math score up -- tutor/ -SAT;
take a college level trig/pre-cal course now/over the summer so that you can prove you can do the math.
Good Luck!
Any chance you could get the Girl Scout Gold Award? They have programs for single Scouts. That really boosts your leadership points.
Girl's State is great-- you 'll enjoy it.
Grades, SAT score; teacher recommendations.
The nomination is CRUCIAL. You cannot attend an Academy without one. Work on that. The process is similar to a college application complete with interview.
take a college level trig/pre-cal course now/over the summer so that you can prove you can do the math.
Good Luck!
Any chance you could get the Girl Scout Gold Award? They have programs for single Scouts. That really boosts your leadership points.
Girl's State is great-- you 'll enjoy it.
Grades, SAT score; teacher recommendations.
The nomination is CRUCIAL. You cannot attend an Academy without one. Work on that. The process is similar to a college application complete with interview.
USMA Field Force should help you
Kelsi-- Get in touch with the Admission Field Force rep in your area. They are usually old Grads working for the Admissions Dept and can really help direct you.
If you do not know-- call USMA Admissions - they will give you a name and contact info.
Go Army!
Kelsi-- Get in touch with the Admission Field Force rep in your area. They are usually old Grads working for the Admissions Dept and can really help direct you.
If you do not know-- call USMA Admissions - they will give you a name and contact info.
Go Army!
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Thank you for the information.
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Beat Navy!!!!! Thank you for the information. Everyone on this board has been extremely kind.
Here you go...
This is how WP adds up a WCS. "Whole Candidate Score" This is part of the formula they use to grade a candidate who has opened a file.
Academics (60%)
Class rank (15 points)
SAT score (35)
High School Grades (10)
Extra points for Valedictorian/National Honor Society/National Merit Scholar
Leadership (30%)
School Leadership – extra points for class or student body president
Eagle Scout/Gold Star Girls Scout
Boys and Girls State
Athletic Participation – Team Captain Status
Team sports
Fitness CFA (10%)
Being a recruited athlete /Under Represented Minority/Active Service can fall in to different category pertaining to WP Class compositions.
The standardized testing is a huge part of WCS and it is important to do your very very best and take the tests multiply times. My DS has taken ACT/SAT 8 times.
This is how WP breaks it down.
WP thinks your high school rank is more important than your GPA. However, to have a high rank (top 15%) you need a great GPA.
Also to improve your WCS, get those SAT/ACT scores as high as you can.
Again, resist comparing yourself to others. What is more important is ask yourself, "Have I Done My Very Best, How Can I Improve?"
Push Hard, Press Forward
This is how WP adds up a WCS. "Whole Candidate Score" This is part of the formula they use to grade a candidate who has opened a file.
Academics (60%)
Class rank (15 points)
SAT score (35)
High School Grades (10)
Extra points for Valedictorian/National Honor Society/National Merit Scholar
Leadership (30%)
School Leadership – extra points for class or student body president
Eagle Scout/Gold Star Girls Scout
Boys and Girls State
Athletic Participation – Team Captain Status
Team sports
Fitness CFA (10%)
Being a recruited athlete /Under Represented Minority/Active Service can fall in to different category pertaining to WP Class compositions.
The standardized testing is a huge part of WCS and it is important to do your very very best and take the tests multiply times. My DS has taken ACT/SAT 8 times.
This is how WP breaks it down.
WP thinks your high school rank is more important than your GPA. However, to have a high rank (top 15%) you need a great GPA.
Also to improve your WCS, get those SAT/ACT scores as high as you can.
Again, resist comparing yourself to others. What is more important is ask yourself, "Have I Done My Very Best, How Can I Improve?"
Push Hard, Press Forward
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Really good information. Thank you!
Goals, not Quotas:
If it makes you feel better - West Point does not have quotas - they have goals.
If the American Indian goal is 3%, then WP will strive to meet that percentage, but they aren't required to.
Also, there are goals for women, scholars, athletes, leaders and soldiers.
SAT/ACT:
I think you've heard loud and clear that you need to raise your scores, especially, Math.
A free on-line prep course offered by the Army is: https://www.march2success.com/
If it makes you feel better - West Point does not have quotas - they have goals.
If the American Indian goal is 3%, then WP will strive to meet that percentage, but they aren't required to.
Also, there are goals for women, scholars, athletes, leaders and soldiers.
SAT/ACT:
I think you've heard loud and clear that you need to raise your scores, especially, Math.
A free on-line prep course offered by the Army is: https://www.march2success.com/
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Kelsie,
I scanned your thread and there is a lot of advice given about the road to getting into WP, but little said about staying in. I tell candidates after they receive their appointment that "you are over the hurdle of getting in, now the challenge is to stay in". Your Math score is way below standard. Standards met, mean you have the potential to be successful. Find a good Field Force Rep, that believes in you based on all your other accomplishments and your desire to attend the academy. A good FF Rep can really help you get the Prep or Civil Prep opportunity. The Diversity Outreach Officer in your region can help you be as competitive as you can be, but the standards are rarely lowered to accommodate an individual. It might take you more than 1 year to obtain an appointment. It did for me, and 30% of each entering class has post HS education. If you are OK with that, work towards your goal. Good luck!
I scanned your thread and there is a lot of advice given about the road to getting into WP, but little said about staying in. I tell candidates after they receive their appointment that "you are over the hurdle of getting in, now the challenge is to stay in". Your Math score is way below standard. Standards met, mean you have the potential to be successful. Find a good Field Force Rep, that believes in you based on all your other accomplishments and your desire to attend the academy. A good FF Rep can really help you get the Prep or Civil Prep opportunity. The Diversity Outreach Officer in your region can help you be as competitive as you can be, but the standards are rarely lowered to accommodate an individual. It might take you more than 1 year to obtain an appointment. It did for me, and 30% of each entering class has post HS education. If you are OK with that, work towards your goal. Good luck!