Tobacco

Discussion in 'Military Academy - USMA' started by Znichols10, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. Znichols10

    Znichols10 New Member

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    After Beast Barracks, can I use E-Cigs during plebe year and beyond?
     
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    Imagine Clint with an e-cig

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    Cotton candy flavored!
     
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    GoArmyBeatNavy 5-Year Member

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    After making it through Beast without using Nicotine, use that opportunity to quit for good. It will kill you in the long run and decrease physical performance in the short term.
     
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    So glad to see these posts. I figured I would be a mom post. Thanks for posting the terrible results of vaping.
     
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    Well, if it’s good enough for this anonymous poster about whom we know absolutely nothing, then it’s surely good enough for the rest of us. Vape away, you cadets and mids, vape away!
     
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    It’s a whole new industry. Not going to debate the subject because I’m not a medical professional. But this attitude and opinion is exactly part of the problem. Kids/young adults don’t see anything wrong with it. And I guarantee if you are an elite athlete where hundredths of a second matter, you would perform better not putting stuff into your body that it wasn’t designed to process. Maybe you ‘do fine’, but you could do better.

    Check back in 10 years though and measure your your pulmonary capacity.
     
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  11. DDmom

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    Just like people have been saying that smoking doesn’t affect them for decades, or until they get cancer. Vaping will eventually change your life in not a good way. Unfortunately seeing the statistics and saying your immune is sad. Vaping is an addiction to nicotine just the same as smoking or dipping. Don’t be naive and think you are immune to the affects of nicotine. In addition the way that vaping enters the lungs is doing additional damage. You are in good company though as most vaping companies are targeting kids, getting them hooked with candy flavors and telling them it’s not addictive.
     
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    Serious question: what is the policy for smoking/ tobacco use at a SA? Our oldest sons State U is a tobacco free campus. Not sure if that includes vaping or not.

    I have never seen a Mid smoking or vaping. Do they do it on the down-low? Is either allowed on premises? Can they do it at sponsors? Wonder the policies.

    Also wonder if it’s disclosed on DoDMRB. Or even a question. And if it is, and one discloses vaping, how is that viewed (a throwback to the whole integrity of lying on DoDMRB questioner thread)?
     
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  13. Devil Doc

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    I was at Walter Reed this morning for my annual medication refill and heart and lung check. I ran into a midshipmen in his whites who could have been in a recruiting poster. I would put a bunch of money on him not being a vaper, smoker, or user of anything but PT and motivation. The young fella was a stud and added to my hope for tomorrow. Smokers after a few years not only have cardio and respiratory problems but a facial appearance that is akin to an old catchers mitt. I can ID a smoker from a long way away. So smoke on smokers, Earth is overcrowded as it is.
     
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    Capt MJ 10-Year Member

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    The SAs are Fed entities, so probably have the usual not inside, not within X feet of doors, only in designated areas, for smoking.

    At the command level, this is an example policy:
    https://www.usna.edu/AdminSupport/_... Smoking and Smokeless Tobacco Use Policy.pdf

    Certain activities are also prohibited while in uniform.
     
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    I'm not trying to be disrespectful here, but I always hear how "kids don't know it has nicotine in it", anyone who I have ever interacted with the uses ecigs know they have nicotine in them, that's why we use them and why we want a hit. I completely understand that I'm a hopeless addict to nicotine at this point, but I try not to worry about that because I think stress is a little bit worse for you than a nicotine addiction. Maybe one day I'll quit, but maybe I won't, who knows. For now though, I'm enjoying the delicious mint flavor of my juul and the headrush it gives me.
     
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    @Ohioclass, while I’m disappointed in your choice to smoke/vape, I will go to my grave believing that this is your decision and your decision only. The right to make choices that affect only you should be yours alone. That’s a principle worth fighting for.
     
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    If you are old enough to join the military, you are old enough to decide to vape or not to vape. Joining the military might be more hazardous to your health.
     
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    Vaping is huge in the middle and high schools...they think it won't hurt them (that whole frontal lobe not developed yet thing...). I tell them they look like smokey rednecks. Sorry...it's about the dumbest looking thing I've seen.
     
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