Turned Down on I Day

[navy27hopeful]

I have seen some posters about being turned away on IDAY for medical reasons, what would be the cause of this? I have a waiver and recently updated my DoDMERB history and was given the green light, but has USNA ever changed their mind on a waiver or anything like that on I DAY? Let me know if I am just being overly worried

 

[A1Janitor]

I have seen some posters about being turned away on IDAY for medical reasons, what would be the cause of this? I have a waiver and recently updated my DoDMERB history and was given the green light, but has USNA ever changed their mind on a waiver or anything like that on I DAY? Let me know if I am just being overly worried

Show up with aids, drugs in your blood, or in a cast.

 

[Capt MJ]

Recent surgical scar or other changes to medical history not reported to DoDMERB.

Pregnant.
Drunk.
Clearly sick and running a fever.

 

[NeverSayNever]

Recent surgical scar or other changes to medical history not reported to DoDMERB.

Pregnant.
Drunk.
Clearly sick and running a fever.

or Wanted for 1st Deg Murder…

 

[NavyHoops]

It is extremely rare for someone to be turned away on I Day. I have worked many I Days and seen the appointees who have been turned away. Usually it’s something admissions already is aware if. Something like an appointee breaking their wrist 3-4 weeks prior to I Day. They had them report and then the Doctors took more X-rays and tested mobility. Essentially they looked at healing, healing time and then an assessment of how much they could complete during PS to make a call. Of course there is a candidate that doesn’t report something huge, shows up with alcohol in their system or something egregious. Again, rare and something 100% in your control.

 

[Gnarlygoat27]

Kinda exactly what @NavyHoops said. The guy I know had a stress fracture of some sort in his foot sometime in the months leading up to I-Day. Had X-rays and was cleared 2 weeks out. Showed up and had more x-rays and they decided it wasn’t as healed as they’d like. He was sent off, attended Purdue for a year and came back the next year for I-Day #2. Long and successful career to follow, retiring in a few years as an O6. This was a long time ago so what all happened in that year of needing to reapply, find a nom, etc I’m not sure.

 

[justdoit19]

Ive mentioned before, but my oldest sons roommate was one that reported with a known injury, and was to be cleared by medical day of. He was sent home. He wasn’t healed to medical satisfaction. It does happen!

 

[navy27hopeful]

Thank you all! So as I generally take it, if USNA approved you and you passed DoDMERB there shouldn't be a problem, just if there's been recent injuries or things of that sort.

 

[A1Janitor]

Thank you all! So as I generally take it, if USNA approved you and you passed DoDMERB there shouldn't be a problem, just if there's been recent injuries or things of that sort.

Generally no. But depends on the dq/waiver. A recent post on SAF was from a candidate who received a waiver but alerted the appointment was conditional on medical exam on I day iirc.

I assume you didn’t get that message - so don’t get hurt, or make a mistake and you will be fine.

 

[Small Team Bacsi]

or Wanted for 1st Deg Murder…

Or not wanted for murder at the time you arrive but you confess on arrival at the USNA to murder. Not quite IDay but close.

You can do a Google on that case

 

[justdoit19]

Thank you all! So as I generally take it, if USNA approved you and you passed DoDMERB there shouldn't be a problem, just if there's been recent injuries or things of that sort.

Medically speaking, if you are qualified, you are qualified.

Any changes to your medical history reported, is to be reported to DODMERB. So medically speaking, there shouldn't be any surprises that pop up on Iday. If there are medical issues you haven’t updated, that could be something. But qualified, with no changes, will still be qualified. If that is what you are asking.

As far as other things, like alcohol, drugs, etc….thats within your control and also wouldn’t be a problem.

 

[Small Team Bacsi]

Medically speaking, if you are qualified, you are qualified.

Any changes to your medical history reported, is to be reported to DODMERB. So medically speaking, there shouldn't be any surprises that pop up on Iday. If there are medical issues you haven’t updated, that could be something. But qualified, with no changes, will still be qualified. If that is what you are asking.

As far as other things, like alcohol, drugs, etc….thats within your control and also wouldn’t be a problem.

I’d say——….should not be a problem.

Every year SA bound plebs do something stupid that could get them DQd. And sometimes they are caught. Often not always that something has to do with booze and drinking being involved.

 

[A1Janitor]

Or not wanted for murder at the time you arrive but you confess on arrival at the USNA to murder. Not quite IDay but close.

You can do a Google on that case

Wow I remember the case. I guess I forgot the USNA/USAFA connection.

 

[Capt MJ]

Wow I remember the case. I guess I forgot the USNA/USAFA connection.

If it’s the Diana Zamora (USNA plebe) and David Graham (USAFA doolie) case, she made comments during plebe summer to roommates that had them concerned enough to go to a chaplain. In a round of roommate “what’s the worst thing you have ever done” chat, her responses were disturbing - either she was being scary honest or something else was wrong with her. Chaplain asked if he could share with leadership. Dant’s JAG was a bit of a cowboy, who called Zamora’s county police to ask about an unsolved murder in the preceding year. David Graham was her boyfriend, and the victim’s brother had heard her on the phone with a “David.” The case progressed quickly from there, with facts gathered, LE flying into both SAs and both questioned at the same time to preclude them talking to each other. Nasty, premeditated, violent murder.
I had just arrived as a BattO - quite the introduction to the place. “Texas Cadet Murders” is the applicable awful movie.

They broke up…now back to normal I-Day chat.

 

[justdoit19]

I’d say——….should not be a problem.

Every year SA bound plebs do something stupid that could get them DQd. And sometimes they are caught. Often not always that something has to do with booze and drinking being involved.

Agree, I was indicating that those choices are within their control, so wouldn’t be a surprise turn back.

VS having an an approved waiver, suddenly revoked and a turn back.

 

[A1Janitor]

If it’s the Diana Zamora (USNA plebe) and David Graham (USAFA doolie) case, she made comments during plebe summer to roommates that had them concerned enough to go to a chaplain. In a round of roommate “what’s the worst thing you have ever done” chat, her responses were disturbing - either she was being scary honest or something else was wrong with her. Chaplain asked if he could share with leadership. Dant’s JAG was a bit of a cowboy, who called Zamora’s county police to ask about an unsolved murder in the preceding year. David Graham was her boyfriend, and the victim’s brother had heard her on the phone with a “David.” The case progressed quickly from there, with facts gathered, LE flying into both SAs and both questioned at the same time to preclude them talking to each other. Nasty, premeditated, violent murder.
I had just arrived as a BattO - quite the introduction to the place. “Texas Cadet Murders” is the applicable awful movie.

They broke up…now back to normal I-Day chat.

Unbelievable. You summed up the whole case in minimal words - I read a long news article right before. You hit every key point.

 

[Capt MJ]

Unbelievable. You summed up the whole case in minimal words - I read a long news article right before. You hit every key point.

I had a front row seat. Eternally grateful she was not in my chain of command. The Navy taught me to “Be brief. Be bright. Be gone.”

 

[NeverSayNever]

Or not wanted for murder at the time you arrive but you confess on arrival at the USNA to murder. Not quite IDay but close.

You can do a Google on that case

I’m pretty familiar with the case… It happened while I was there.

 

[justdoit19]

I watched it on Netflix

 

[A1Janitor]

I watched it on Netflix

I guess the police record check wasn’t clear enough? Idk 🤷‍♀️

Police records don’t disclose witness interviews that don’t lead to charges do they?

From the article I read, he was cleared because he passed his lie detector test and was credible when crying.